Weekend Warcraft Lore General

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But your pic is scantily dressed, that's just her side-view.

though /v/ keeps running on meme, ESO is fun to play, ironically blizzard "took" the one tamriel concept into 7.3.5 and Morrowind is the Shit, and bethesda isnt fucking with the lore as skyrimbabies claims it since they are listening even /tgesg/, also Tranwiz

FF14, besides the stupid sub and PVE being hard ass, its fun too, its just the waifufags and RP-ers that are Moon guard levels of fucking retards, and yeah again the PVE there is fucking great

Only Orc Warlocks feel good to play and non-Orc locks are posers.

Every female in Warcraft is overly sexualized, is a meme, or both.

FOUND THE TUMBLR FAT WHORE MANGINA

Keep political shitposting to ridiculous fantasy world political shitposting, please.

will void'dorei get their own name

does she have tentacles coming out of her head?

Ren'dorei.
And other areas, yes.

Eugh, they masterfully painted one of the new human face models.

stronger

Kylo Rendorei.

That arrow physically can't leave that bow.

Dank. I was going to make my priest a Lightforged but I'm really feeling void elves now.

darker

Shadow priest makes sense I guess, but idk how you'd justify a void elf using holy Light powers (or a lightforge using Void powers for that matter)

I think disc would probably be doable, at least, but yeah holy would probably be off the table reasonably

bolder

Yeah, but what about the mutations? How many mouths has she got? What are the teeth like?

Silly user. What's important is what her vagina smells like. Can you imagine a vagina that smells like shadow? Wanna bet it smells far better than actual female bodily fluids?
Only three ways to go from here, amigo. Light pussy, dark pussy, and magic pussy. Night Elves will be extinct within a year.

I'm not asking about smell. I'm asking if it's got a tongue. Teeth. Tentacles for grasping. Is it rimmed with eyes?

>Is it rimmed with eyes?
>oh user, you missed a spot shaving
>you didnt quite reach as far as you usually do that time
>user is that a growth?!

>Tentacles for grasping.
...I didn't realize how much I wanted this until you said it. Small, delicate little tentacles, winding their way through your pubic hairs and gently--but insistently--tugging you deeper in.

Not to stir thing, is just natural that they make them sexy in art but that doesn't mean they are "bimbo amazon"

thanks for the heads up autist

>tfw Void Elves are just a ERP race already and they haven't even been released.

Sigh

Would draenei have them, too?

>draenei females
>having anything other than horsecocks

Good. Void elves will siphon out the dregs of the other elves' populations.

>that antediluvian meme
nyet

Void and Light are interconnected, if you have strong affinity for one you'll have strong affinity for the other.

Something in the new Chronicles-based lore I think a lot of people missed is that the Void is described as coming into existence AFTER the Light. Apparently at first there was only the Light, and as it expanded outwards parts of it got stretched out and areas where it got too thin were where the Void was born. So, despite what people assume from the name, the Void isn't supposed to be the cosmic force of all oblivion/nothingness. It's not a universal void, it's specifically Void OF the Light. Which has interesting implications for what void creatures are, and fits very well with all the lines from Xal'atath about naaru and elune, and with the demonstrated inversion effects where Light creatures can flip into Void and vice vera.

The theme of some "evil" magical force being born out of a "good" magical force being taken away is also an interesting and potentially pretty powerful one.

They're all going Nightborne so I'm not worried.

I doubt that, the shitters can't be bothered to farm the reputation requirements.

Well, that's an odd thing, you know. There had to be emptiness for the Light to expand into. Couldn't the Void merely be the emptiness the Light once filled, that was roused after the Light left it and returned it to emptiness? The Void is driven by hunger, the desire to be filled, so that'd kind of make sense.

The Void just wants to consume it and be filled once more.

At this point I'm so disenchanted with the lore that I would preffer they add murlocs so I can rp a meme race I like instead of trying to "serious roleplay"

Mongrel Horde Murlocs will never be playable.

Can't we get like liberated murloc slaves? Or the ones that are trained by that night elf and murky

murlocs as paid cash shop race that takes the slot of the second any-faction race

$49.99 per character

>Murlocs confirmed for universal all-class access

Should have bought loads of murloc wands during the anniversary bro. Self cast one hour uses with 5 charges each and work in combat.

The warcraft setting has always been a pretty over-the-top, hammy, cartoonishly exaggerated one. It's a caricature world that only ever had solid lore when there was too little of it to contradict itself and always retconned itself with every major release, even before WoW was introduced. The appearance of the races is exaggerated, the landscape and architecture condensed and exaggerated, the music goes for big emotional appeal rather than subtlety. The lore, like EVERYTHING ELSE about the setting, takes what the creators see as the the key appealing elements in the fantasy and emphasizes them without worrying too much about making other things consistent or realistic or elegant or whatever. That is a perfectly acceptable, and demonstrably profitable, way of making a world.

The kind of reaction you're demonstrating comes from people who never saw warcraft for what it actually was to begin with.

All of those things I would really describe as childish and that it's completely acceptable to want more out of a base of lore and universe when you "open your eyes" to seeing what Warcraft is.

>All of those things I would really describe as childish

well there's yer fuckin problem m8

you should see about that affliction you got there

...

What, you don't want to fill her all-consuming Void?

youtube.com/watch?v=tC-ol6xY5zQ

And what do you find disenchanting?

Remember pre-blizzcon how a tiny bit of text on merchandise briefly made people think playable Murlocs were on the way?

Good times.

With Legion I really felt a lot of old zones lost their significance. What's the point of Nordrassil if the other three was there? Moonglade if there's Val'sharan? Secret blue dragons, secret uncorrupted black dragon, Suramar intact but wardens were unawere...

Then theres Illidan rewriting, TBC becomes pointless, a lot of characters look like literal retards (see Kael).

Before Legion what most bugged me was the human and orcish centrism, everytime it feels more like Humand&Friends specially in the Alliance, High King title and things like that. The constant warfare and red vs blue aggravates this, Blizzard just uses this to make each side "angry" which each other and promote RvB and once you realize this all the "conflict" losses its meaning, it doesn't even feel natural.

Then the classes lost some mystery and uniqueness, specially druids, shamans and paladins.

I don't know.

Everything's been losing mystery since TBC-WOLTK. Damn shame, really.

All of the belves who were secretly just high elf fags and/or normies who just wanted to be pretty generic fantasy elves but wanted to be Alliance will flock to them, don't worry.

There's really no way to counter mystery loss in any work of fantasy fiction. You can preserve some, sure, but you have to reveal some things and it's difficult to add fresh mystery.

So, that Eye of Paleth quest in Menethil Harbor. Was adding the "Oh are you kidding that was supposed to have been cured four years ago!" thing to the cata version just an unnecessary insult or did it open up some potential?

(It's the cursed artifact of the doomed fleet.)

Quick question- are you that same fag that keeps saying goblin shamans don't make any sense?

What about Maiev?

goblin shamans rofl

stupidest thing ever added in warcraft

What about most other things?

Also stupid.

its stupid in how serious blizzard was in adding them even adding cool lore for them but just abandoning the idea and never talking about it again same with Sun walkers but at least its not as stupid as the way the goblins get their shaman powers. Probaly one of blizzards top ten mistakes in WoW lore.

Makes sense to me that any race can be any class but they are generally bound by their society and culture, which is something rarely explored by Blizzard.

Which villain produced the most doomsayers? I forget.

Like, doomsayers among the players or actual, in-game ones?

Ingame.

The twilight hammer in cata had a shit ton of doomsayers in the capital cities.

I dunno, a bunch just show up in towns right before and apocalyptic events.

I know there were some pre-Legion and there might have been some pre-Cata too.

I want a Valtrois gf!

I'd consider goblin priests dumber. I can buy goblins taking up dealing with elementals like they'd deal with any business partners, as elementals don't care about your faith as much as you doing something in return for their power, but I don't goblins have the kind of faith and moral devotion needed to be priests. They're defined by opportunism, and willing to work for anyone as long as they get paid. Angoblin priest would abandon any principles of their religion as soon as it would become profitable to do so.

I always interpreted goblin priests as being effectively televangelists

They can work themselves up into a fervor without ever dedicating themselves to a faith because moolah takes precedence

Honestly, yeah. Goblin priests are played like televangelists, which, while hilarious, doesn't really fit with the how the Light is portrayed-you got to REALLY BELIEVE IT.

>fag
Face it pal, many people are saying that.

Priests are widely associated with corruption and hypocrisy. That's also what Goblins are associated with.
Shamans are associated with tribalism and traditional lifestyles. This is the opposite of what Goblins are known for.

>player from Moonguard joins the battleground
>proceed to immediately start shitposting dumb RP elements about the BG at hand in /y to them

If undead could be holy priests since Vanilla I don't see why not

TBC was always pointless. There was no reason to interrupt Illidans plans. He was amassing troops to fight the Legion.

It's supposed to be spooky. The First Mate who gave you that quest has been dead since Vanilla and that was his ghost you were talking to. The item isn't what had cursed them, btw that's the twist.

Goblins are a pastiche of the worst aspects of American culture. They talk with New York accents, and their island is a mixture of Hollywood and Detroit.
Americans are notorious for their misguided religiosity, stadium sized megachurches that rake in huge amounts of cash, and cult-like churches that dupe their adherents out of their money. Goblin priests are very easy to imagine.
On the other hand, can you imagine an "American" shaman? Americans are obsessed with gadgets and innovation, even when they serve no practical purpose, staying hip and modern. The closest they would get to shamanism is putting an out of context plastic tiki mask up on their wall.
Frankly, I have an easier time imagining a goblin druid, which would be like one of those "spiritual" New Age bimbos who think that smoking light narcotics and wearing plastic crystals makes them closer to nature.

But Kael'thas was evil, sort of, kind of
Also muh enslaved belf whores

Illidan was an insane evil tyrant in BC before Legion handwaved everything he did and whitewashed him into an edgelord dindu hogging the spotlight.

How many of you thought "yep, that's clearly the upcoming Warchief of the Horde" when you first saw Sylvanas in WC3?

Both these perspectives are asinine and rooted in a fundamental misunderstanding of both Goblins and Priests.
You think that all goblins have to be the same stereotype. But they don't. And you think priests are DnD clerics. But they're not.
Warriors, Hunters and Priests form the trifecta of melee-ranged-support reminiscent from Warcraft: Orcs and Humans. EVERYONE should be permitted to be any of these without exception, and the fluff be adjusted to allow for it. Every single race including goblins and gnomes needs to have a belief system the priest class is a part of, just as they have basic military castes for Warriors and specialised military groups for Hunters. It's one of the first things you'd ask when designing a race - what do they believe in?

And Goblins do not ONLY believe in gold, you dumb antisemetic shits.

The only thing I thought when I saw Sylvanas in TFT is "When are we getting back to Arthas?"
TFT is an unfocused clusterfuck. Only Rexxar's campaign has a consistent protagonist, and only Arthas' campaign has a likeable protagonist. Maiev would have been one too, if her campaign wasn't literally shanghaied by Malfurion and Illidan at the end.

>he didn't figure it out
yikes

>How many of you thought "MILKIES!"

Me.

>Ren'dorei.
>Not naming them Squi'dorei
You had one job, Blizzard.

I didn't expect it, but I don't mind it. My Warfu can slaughter as many innocent children as she wants as long as she keeps looking cute and angry.

Think it's dumb how the game made you go from fighting a lvl 10 Paladin to a lvl 4-7 PotM knockoff who can't even cast an ult.

Void was also described to come into existence when Light in those areas "burned out". Quite like Naaru life cycle.

Sylvanas campaign felt good because I got to murder Garithos.

Garithos and his lackeys were a hackneyed attempt to make Warcraft humans look bad in a game where Arthas and the Cult of the Damned already existed.