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>And never, ever make a deal with a dragon

Tusker time. Why aren't you playing best metatype, user?

Because if you're going to Goblinize, you should go all the way.

Question of the day: Who are most slutty? Orcs or elves?

Orks of course!

Elves are pure!

Elves don't put any effort into it; they just passive little playthings that don't complain when they're pushed against a wall. An orc wants to live fast and hard, and they'll put themselves forward and make it clear what they want.

Orcs 1, Elves 0.

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Dom Male Elf with Sub Female Ork is the best pairing.

>Tusker time. Why aren't you playing best metatype, user?

Because playing into the fetish and fantasies of the authors makes me feel queasy.

That said, had a great comedy duo routine going once with a fomori and a giant. Neither were combat focused, they just told increasingly more horrible aristocrats 'jokes'. The other player was basically drunk all the time, so that helped.

Using the Rigger 5.0 mod rules is it possible to purchase a body 1 minidrone like the Gerbil, rip out the drivetrain and equip it with a grade 2 weapon mount and attach a machine pistol to it?
I want to make tossable mini turrets

Why. It won't do anything better than suppressive fire and
>machine pistol
>suppressive fire

Being able to throw an automated gun behind the enemy that’s in cover seems pretty useful to me.

Because They cost fucking Priority B so CGL obviously doesn't want me to.

It dies to a well-placed punt.

And a punt is a complex action.

>using priority

It’s cheap and replaceable, I wanted to put explosives on it anyways.
I’m just trying to think of some unique toys for my Rigger
Do you have any suggestions?

Would your character go with the run team to get celebratory icecream after a run?

where can i get good ideas for meta plots after a few session of just doing random runs and i feel like im losing my players

I don't understand what you mean by "good ideas".

I can give you ideas that may or may not be good, though. One of the johnsons has the runners steal larger and larger amounts of pure, all natural sugar. It becomes obvious he is some kind of bug spirit along the line, and you now have to deal with whatever fucking thing he is doing with all that sugar.

The players acquire a relatively nice base in a run down neighborhood, and become better neighbors with the people living there, eventually resulting in a need to clean up the local area so their base works better.

A runner has to track down a personal macguffin, and the whole team is along for the ride.

A lot of it relies on the runners, and who they are.

another metaplot: You are asked by a johnson to recover a fragment of blast rubble from some black-locked lab. You get it back, he thanks you, and says he will try to put it back together. Not a moment after he tries, one of the dead god-AIs rips forth and begins causing all manner of hell. The players now have to deal with a survival horror scenario in which they are running from weaponized toasters and blenders driving cars.

It's strange. Priority is the only officially endorsed method at conventions/missions play, but there's plenty of content that requires you to use pointbuy. It's like CGL themselves realize they fucked up.

Both. As said it's almost impossible to play a melee character without them (or at least skates) and I can also assure there's nothing more fun than zooming down the street at 70 meters per turn (except maybe decapitating a guy at 70 meters per turn).

How much are security guards and wage slaves payed?

Not enough.

Poor Wageslaves/Guards? 2k/month
Average Wageslaves/Guards? 5k/month
Well Paid Wageslaves/Guards? 8k/month

That reminds me. My decker had an internal Cyberdeck, but e carried an antique Amstrad keyboard anyway for the look of things. It was modded with melee hardening and he specialized in blunt combat, just so he could deck everyone in the face with it.
Being a Shadowrunner is 90% image.

>Tusker time. Why aren't you playing best metatype, user?

Because they are priced exactly one grade to expensive in priority to be viable and playing something else besides Humans in KarmaGen is also not a good idea.

If i ever manage to play a game with life paths as chargen method, i'll give playing an Orc a go.

Just grab the smart firing plattform from CRB.
Does the same, easier to use and probably even cheaper.

that's actually pretty good.
It's going to make bribes pricey.

>Average wageslave
>5k a month

bit to high, imho. Average wagecuck shouldn't be able to afford a house.

Imma take his word for it over yours.

5k/month is enough to pay for a medium lifestyle, that's where I got it from
a poor one can barely afford a Low Lifestyle, if nothing else comes up.
an average one can barely afford a Middle Lifestyle, or afford a Low Lifestyle with 3k over
a well paid one can afford a Middle lifestyle with 3k over, but still can't afford a High Lifestyle

And a medium lifestyle is exactly this, a house, according to the CRB.
Doesn't fit my image of a dystopian corpocracy, but your taste might be different, just stating opinions here.

Well, technically a lot of people suddenly died off due to VITAS I&II, leaving enough houses for everyone
Also: Pic related

I know what is written there. I still don't think its fitting for an average wageslave.
Way to cozy.

wageslaves are not called that because they live in poverty, they are called that because they gave up their freedom of choice for comfort.
It's kind of the central anti establishment punk thing that drives the narrative in Shadowrun.

>Way to cozy
As another guy once said: The lifestyle of a wageslave is like being wrapped in a warm cozy blanket in the middle of a cold place, but the blanket is tight and hot and getting tighter and tighter until you can barely breathe or move or do anything.
Also: there's nothing defining "nice" in "nice house". A meal consisting of soy with flavourings is nice if it's compared to not eating at all.
A nice house may be a small one-story house, with almost no room, but with functioning furniture, hot water and no power surges.

Not cheaper than a grenade.

Instead of throwing it, make it something you can plant in disguise, so that it pops out and shoots the HTR in the back as they advance into the building after you.

I think there is a difference between Wageslaves and Corp Citizens, Wageslaves are not paid in money, they get an apartment from the company, a limited SIN, and some corp scrip to buy what they need from the company store. Dead end jobs that the company would replace with robots if they could. But your average salaryman is absolutely gonna earn enough to hold a medium lifestyle.

You've got the facts incorrect. Wageslaves don't get SINs from corps, they're national citizens that get pulled into service for a company, sign contracts that have extremely punitive exit clauses, and live out their lives toiling for a company but not being a full citizen of it.

If you check Market Panic or some of the other lifestyle books across editions, the numbers they give for corp citizenry are very low; getting even a limited SIN is a big deal, because it's the stepping stone to having your family be a permanent part of the company from cradle to grave forever. You can be work for a company, go to all the seminars on why it's great, and live your day-to-day only dealing with that company or it's subsidiaries, but still not be an official citizen.

Is there any information on the Euro Wars beside what's in the 4th edition Euro Wars book ?

do Hawaiian shirts, cargo shorts and sandals with socks exist in the year 2070

yep

Of course. You'll find styles from every era of history and every corner of the world, if for no other reason that somebody somewhere is enthusiastic about the aesthetic.

Chummer, I'd bet my right nut there's a Hawaii-themed nightclub where that is the mandatory outfit.

I'm willing to bet there's a whole magical tradition.

>technically a lot of people suddenly died off due to VITAS I&II, leaving enough houses for everyone
Nah. The sixth world's population is equal or greater than our own, compressed into smaller controlled spaces, with stretches of ghost towns and wilderness between.

VITAS had a big impact, but prevention was easier than cure, and most of the deaths suffered were in places where than fell apart. Still scary af and a big deal, as even a dozen deaths will be considered serious, and this was magnitudes larger - but the west didn't take the beating Africa did, and it bounced back easily.

Still, i would consider a lifestyle that comes with lots of comforts, autocook and the ability to sometimes eat natural high-quality food not the thing i'd expect from a state citizen wageslave.

Chummer, i'd bet that out there somewhere there is a mage who think his powers are fuled by his ford mustang 1967.
Certainly a Hawaii tradition exists, question is if a organized tradition exists.

>Nah. The sixth world's population is equal or greater than our own
Official numbers say that the Shadowrun population is closer to 4-5 Billion, vs coming up on 8 billion. The population density of Seattle is also an outright laughable 500+ per square km, which is equivalent to a mid-tier city in flyover country (Vs 3200/sq km for RL Seattle). The setting is a fucking ghost town for a cyberpunk hellhole.

>Shadowrun writers can't handle numbers or science for shit
More news at eleven.

If life as a wageslave surrendering your freedom to a corp and working hellish 72 hour work weeks under a pointy-haired boss didn't give you a life that was leagues more safe and comfortable than hustling drugs behind a Stuffer Shack, why would anyone choose that life? You have to have some sweet to go with the bitter, or people will laugh in your face and the business world vs the shadow world will become even more of a chicken trying to sit on top of an ostrich egg.

Honestly, unless we hit 50.000 people per square kilometer it's just not cyberpunk enough for me.

Fair point, after all the lifestyle can be easily owned by the corp.

SR was written in the 80s so I'd say at least in the 2050s people would have a similar attitude towards that fashion as they did then.

Okay, cut those numbers and push them to 100k+ people per square km
For fringe districts.
Now we start talking.

I want to play a Rigger who owns/runs a food business out of his van in his off-time.
Where can I read what I need to know about the food service industry in SR?
Will I need a permit?
Can I build contacts by selling soy burgers to hungry police at lunch time?

From the ACTUAL BOOKS
>Downtown Seattle: 555k pop, 1.1k/Sq KM
>Bellevue, 213k, 875/sq KM
>Tacoma: 375k, 658/sq KM
>Everett: 230k, 1.1k/sq KM
>Renton: 220k, 860/sq KM
>Auburn: 210k, 579/sq KM
>Snohomism: 118k, 544/sq KM
>Fort Lewis: 99k, 504/sq KM
>Redmond: 428k, 982/sq KM
>Puyallup: 512k, 508/sq KM
>Council Island: 4k, 160/sq KM
>Outreme: 103k, 484/sq KM
>Seattle Underground: 40k, population density [NULL ERROR FUCK YOU]
That gives us a population of 3.1 million at an average population density of 696/sq KM. I'm fairly certain there are STATES with a higher average population density, never mind actual cities. Overcrowded my ass.

Depends on where you go. Baskin' Robbers, the shadowrunner icecream startup? Sure, why not. Corp Stone Creamery? Nah, its too expensive and they put edible RFIDs in everything, chummer, everything. Ben & Jerry's? Definitely.

>Will I need a permit?
In theory, yes, a food-handler's permit is needed to sell food. In practice, few roach coaches bother IRL, never mind in SR.
>Can I build contacts by selling soy burgers to hungry police at lunch time?
Probably. I've heard worse rationales for beat cop contacts.

Bolt on a commercial lifestyle *or* a day job quality. Done.

There is a Hawai'ian tradition of kahunas who follow the traditional religion of the islands; they spearheaded the independence movement.

The shirts are optional.

>Lost in translation
Your weird country: 50 thousand
Rest of world: 50 to three decimal places.

American education, everyone.
I'm american too

>Will I need a permit?

Maybe if you're some kind of wagecuck who kowtows to the wicked overseers prowling your street

Jesus, in those sprawls i'd have to take a solid 5 minute walk just to ask my neighbour if i could borrow his lawmower.

The opposite is rather true, user.

Americans have always been the weirdos.

Dog Bless. Fuck the haters.

>said the runner who just got paid shit money by a corp to get shot at

My karma meter is smiling at me, wagie. Can you say the same?

>50.000
Amerilard here. How does your country do decimals?

I'm planning an Orbital campaign and I need some help developing a system for space combat between ships.

Can I use the Core rules for vehicle combat for small scale battles between drones and vehicles in outer space?

What would I need to change to simulate 0-g?

the system

He's a filthy francophone. 50.000 is their version of 50,000.

Space combat should be handled as a narrative thing.

^

What if one player wants to rig space drones and ships?

Ask him where he's getting the money for the ships, then for the drones, handle them as normal. There's some basic rules in target: wastelands.

>mfw I have global fame, day job, and a high lifestyle
You peasants are so cute!

So what do you do?

Sucks big fat ork dick for 20 hours a week on camera.

Thank you, I read Wastelands in the past for setting info but didn't see the vehicle stuff. I've mostly stuck to Hazard Pay and Run&Gun for space info and forgot about that book.

So basically what the book is saying is stick to regular vehicle rules when in the vicinity of a space station or just at close range to another vehicle and for long distance travel use narration. I can work with this but I still want to maybe change some things to represent the frictionless environment.

>only 20 hours

European work ethic everyone

Just represent it as a handling penalty, and critical glitches leading the drone seriously off course. Means they won't be able to go back for them later.

Not the Swedes. They do it for free, 90 hours.

>camera
>not streaming 24/7 BTL simsense of yourself being continuously double-fisted by the highest bidders
Get with the times grandpa, this isn't some 2010s porn shop

Why do we have edible RFIDs but not edible tag erasers?

Any advice on running a rigger/matrix skillmonkey with low combat no face potential? I had a successful 1st run, but I am new to SR so I don't know how to equip/progress very well. 5e, running chummer ofc.

Who would make it? The very corporations that devoted time and money into developing edible means of gathering info about their customers?

why, corporations that devote time and money into screwing over the ability of other corporations to gather info about their customers.

the corps that want to track who is buying edible tag erasers, which are also the corps making edible rfid tags

>low combat
why. Having a decent combat skill is easy as fuck, even if you just skillwire the thing.

I'd go half that. The average wageslave would still be low lifestyle because this is terrible world and being middle class is rare thing. Essentially a poor wageslave can only live by putting themselves into horrible, horrible debt. The average wageslave can live by working but probably dreams of a better life, which is only exacerbated by seeing the Jonses on the trid. So too keep up with the 6th World Dream, they put themselves into horrible, horrible debt in order to live a middle lifestyle.

The benefit to being SINless scum is that while you may have a shitty life, it's your shitty life.

What about SINless? those "people" included in these numbers, or no?

>SINless
>people

That sweet fridge logic of looking at intentionally unrealistic population numbers, only to realize that some humanoids don't count as people.

I spent my skillpoints in gaming knowledge instead, user. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Namefaggotry aside, what do you actually want to *do*? When you say low combat potential, do you mean you don't have gunnery? Charisma isn't a desirable attribute for your archetypes so doing face stuff shouldn't be something you focus on anyway.

Pick things your character does well and improve them, then when you reach a point where you're comfortable with how well you do that thing, branch out into something that synergises well. Deckers and riggers tend to double up as the medic, as it rolls in well with their skillset.

>need to plan a run by Friday night
>have zero motivation or inspiration
Fuck me in the ass

When in doubt, roll.

The problem is that I already know the basics of the mission I have in mind. It's how to flesh it out mechanically, and make it interesting from a gameplay perspective, is the problem. I feel like I'm kinda terrible at doing that.

A Kenneth Brackhaven impersonator is depressed at how little selling power his brand has anymore. He's hiring the characters to go out committing high-profile hate crimes, dressed as him.