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Did the Q'Orl get squatted? Have they really gotten no mention since Xenology?

Dude Chaos won't win.

Orks will. Orks have already won.

Why, oh why, did GW cut these guys? They were arguably the most interesting things about the Necrons and had such YOURDUDES-potential.

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Have we gotten anything about the imperum since Guillimans return? A fucking primarch returning would have world shattering social consequences to the imperium at large. Equivalent to Jesus descending from the sky and leading an angelic battalion against ISIS. Many of the things Guiliman would say would completely shatter everything these people believe in. Had he kept silent on a lot of shit as to not stir the pot too much and cause civil war? How have ordinary people reacted to Guilimans return? These are the interesting bits to a primarchs return that have not been expanded upon. I don't want to here about Big G tossing titans or cleaving bloodthirsters, I want to here about John Doe who sees Guiliman the son of his god right in front of him for the first time.

So as someone pretty new to the hobby how often/how much at a time does the lore update? I was curious as to how ultima founding chapters deal with non-primaris marines (especially sense they're described more as reinforcements instead of replacements) but I don't think it's been covered yet in canon.

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Read Dark Imperium and Watchers of the Throne, Guilliman hasnt done shit except patch up holes and invigorate the Astartes force, he's so over his head and he knows he cant change too much without destroying it all plus people are more respectful of his mythological persona to be awed when he doesnt meet their expectations. Even Calgar is somewhat dissappointed and wished his Primarch didnt treat him as a tool soon to be discarded.

We've gotten some stuff yes. The Imperial Creed is both Guilliman biggest asset and biggest headache. He hates the religion and sees it as an afront to everything he believed in and fought for. At the same time the fanaticism he inspires is what gives him the clout to butt heads with more intractable elements of the Imperium. Joe Schmoe reacts exactly as you described and it makes him uncomfortable as hell so he avoids dealing with the Ecclesiarchy whenever possible, especially since extensive questioning leads to trouble. It's on the council of Celestine and Greyfax he's even playing along. At the same time while he has the Ecclesiarchy and the High Lords more or less behind him, the Mechanicus is still the Mechanicus and they aren't happy over Cawls techno heresy, and the Inquisition is butting heads with him.

That's not all he's done. Calgar feels left aside, especially since Guilliman seems to favor Cato Sicarus, but aside from neutering him by virtue of existing Guilliman hasn't done much but leave Calgar in charge of overseeing ultramar.

Guilliman has also established literal armies dedicated to collecting and restoring Imperial records and information and they're armed to go up against thr inquisition. He's also reinvigorated the Sisters of Silence and the Custodes. He is mired in Imperium politics yes but he doesn't have much choice, with the galaxy burning and the smallest mistake carrying the risk of undoing anything

Glacially. This thing with Guilliman is a huge sea change, since prior the plot had been more or less in complete stasis. So it's hard to predict exactly what the future holds.

Guilleman would have an easier time if another primarch like dorn or russ came back to lead the war side of things so he can focus on politics

In my head cannon Guilliman doesn't even bother trying to fix anything and is just out and about around the galaxy stomping peons in simple scouting missions. Considering you can take him in a thousand point game to deal with a small cultist battalion or a couple uppity Tau it seems pretty much his MO at this point. I wouldn't be surprised if he showed up to fix some agri-worlder's space tractor or something.

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I see him brought up a lot in "Who's coming back next?" conversations, but I thought he was pretty much confirmed dead. Did I miss something, or is it more under the assumption that they'll just make up whatever excuse to hand-wave it and bring him back?