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Carnalpleasure
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If this one isn't crazy you MIGHT get me to fight Lyran for a while, edition

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BattleTech Introductory Info and PDFs
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Overview of the major factions?
bg.battletech.com/universe/great-houses/
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How do I find out which BattleMechs a faction has?
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Unit Designing Softwares
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Current 3.21 rule set is included in the mekhq package

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Rookie guides
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BattleTech IRC
#battletech on irc.rizon.net

PDF Folders
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github.com/MegaMek
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veekyforums.com/thread/58522907/games

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Why are LAMs so good?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

What's your favorite Clan?

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Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Because high enough movement modifiers make you almost impossible to hit, and you still get to have guns and armour like a real mech instead of a 20 ton speed demon that is the only thing that's as fast as a LAM.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

veekyforums.com/thread/58482721/games
veekyforums.com/thread/58482721/games
lol it's not that I can't wrap my head around a big school, it's that canon also states these places have very small classes for empires of hundreds of worlds and trillions of people.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Warden Wolf

I have awful taste but I just hate the Falcons so damn much.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Ice Hellion, baby. Too fast in life and death.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

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JunkTop
JunkTop

Wunderwulf?

whereismyname
whereismyname

TMMs - including jumping modifiers - should be capped at a +4.

Any more than that simply breaks the 2d6 curve.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Eww

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StonedTime
StonedTime

Jags.
Falcons second.

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Inmate
Inmate

Some examples:
Aitutaki Academy graduates sixty mechwarriors a year
Dieron District Gymnasium graduates fifteen to twenty
Allison MechWarrior Institute turns out 375 a year. In addition it's stated to be a top producer, so presumably it's a good example of a large school.
Sun Zhang MechWarrior Academy graduates over four hundred, and is specifically noted for graduating the most MechWarriors per year of any training facility in the Inner Sphere.

So yeah, packs of dispossessed are fucking stupid. Just like everything else in this fucking universe.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

But how many die per year?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Apparently, fuckloads, since they're all running around with popguns.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

This is the only acceptable clan.

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TreeEater
TreeEater

does anyone have a copy of the art piece with a hunchback bursting out of a building and headshotting a madcat?

I know that I have it somewhere, but my Veeky Forums folder is gargantuan and I can't find it.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Star Adder.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

JAGUARS FOREVER!

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Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Smoke Jaguar! Smoke Jaguar! Sitting tight,
Poised to pounce in dim moonlight!

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Illusionz
Illusionz

Diamond Sharks, lets make a deal.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Come at me, faggot.

Don't bother, I'm too fast.

King_Martha
King_Martha

veekyforums.com/thread/58482721/games
There is a small number of emotional disturbed regulars on this general that are a real problem- it's not the IP, that's chugging along. If it's you, BE SANER.

No. You can't make me.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

I have a solution for that.

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StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Is the Sunder Samual the best cannon anti infantry machine? I mean look at all of those inferno, the only thing that could make this better would be swapping the PPC for a plasma cannon.

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BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Give praise to Blake!

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Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Best canon antiinfantry is definitely a vee

Nojokur
Nojokur

Allow me to modify my question then, best Canon anti infantry mech

idontknow
idontknow

Naga Prime with Inferno IV rounds.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

It is proper to praise him

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TechHater
TechHater

WHY ARE FANS WHO LIKE THIS NOT BEING KILLED IN THE STREETS? WHY ARE ALL OF YOU SHIRKING YOUR DUTY?

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Supergrass
Supergrass

Scarecrow is pretty gross. Anything that boats MMLs too. And I'd swap the PPC for a Plasma Rifle myself, but I love multi-taskers.

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askme
askme

Arrows can take infernos?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

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Flameblow
Flameblow

What mech is that?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

I can confirm that; had them used against me in a MegaMek game about a year ago.

happy_sad
happy_sad

How did that go?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Something with lots of MGs and/or Flamers.
But realistically against infantry you will need something that demolishes buildings easily.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Arrow size ones, yes.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Like Detroit on Devi's Night in The Crow.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Sorry I'm not too familiar with the third world

Supergrass
Supergrass

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haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I figured enough people had seen that movie to get the reference.

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DeathDog
DeathDog

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hairygrape
hairygrape

What's wrong with the combine user-kun?

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RumChicken
RumChicken

Lyran edition
Fug yeah

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FastChef
FastChef

Inker around?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

people unironically liking clan space nazi

even worse than a drac

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

which clan is that? falcon?

Illusionz
Illusionz

Close, but no cigar. It's Jaguar.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Not to nitpick but the Jags are more like the USSR in their application of general violence against those deemed subversives rather than the racial policies of the Nazis.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

If the Jags are supposed to be the objectively evil warmongering Clan faction, then shouldn't they be more rightly compared to the US instead?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Tired bait. Old. Chewy. 1/10 for getting me to respond.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

this

Snarelure
Snarelure

Truth knows no age limit.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

What Battletech books don't suck? I hear Stackpole wrote a couple and I like the X-Wing novels, are they any good?

Are there any comics?

JunkTop
JunkTop

What Battletech books don't suck?

The 3 Gray Death Legion books (Decision at Thunder Rift, Mercenary's Star, Price of Glory)
Everything written by Bob Charrette
Ideal War by Kubasik
Some would argue for Thurston's Jade Falcon trilogy
Victor Milans books are fun if you can get past the ridiculous Sue of a protagonist (Close Quarters, Black Dragon, and Hearts of Chaos)

That's about it. Star Lord sucks, but is fun all the same.

Are there any comics?

Dark Horse wrote some, but they're terrible.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Decision at Thunder Rift, Wolves on the border, and Heir to the dragon are all pretty good intro tech books.

Booteefool
Booteefool

The Battletech novels are from earlier than the SW ones, so every bad or annoying habit of his from the X-wing books is there but more so, and others that didn't transfer over are *also* there
Now that said, if you want only the cheesiest of neofeudal space psudomilitary pulp, you've come to the right fucking place

Snarelure
Snarelure

What Battletech books don't suck?
Most of them, except the Early DA ones. The novels rely a lot on each other in the later ones though so don't just pick them out of a hat. If you like Xwing, you'll like most of the Battletech novels. They're the same kind of fun genre pulp. Stackpole actually got famous writing Battletech before he wrote for Star Wars. Stackpole's early BT stuff is the best though, mostly because he spends way too much time faffing around with middling late-3050's politics in later books.

Are there any comics?
Yes, like Battletech Fallout, but those suck. Mostly from the people not knowing anything about Battletech.

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Methnerd
Methnerd

How do you guys feel about youtube.com/watch?v=JJiPxCS1yvs ?

Sorry if it's been shilled a lot here recently.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Right, so which should I start with?

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BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

The beginning, Decision at Thunder Rift. Good intro, good book, and will let you know if you like the flavor.

happy_sad
happy_sad

It's gonna make the thread more popular. Just like what happened with Shadowrun. The good news is that Battletech isn't the mess the current edition SR is in, they're even on track to winning the bullshit legal battle that's been going on for decades.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

.rtf

Aw, you're gonna miss out on all the illustrations and stuff.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

my e-reader doesn't handle images well anyways so eh. I'm probably gonna spend half the time googling every mech that gets mentioned anyhow.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

I want to buy this game

StonedTime
StonedTime

I hope you're ready for that Paradox business model, user.
store.steampowered.com/bundle/3096/Crusader_Kings_II_Collection/

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

That's what theft is for

Besides, paradox has actual content. That's more than you can say about EA.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

It's the MechCommander sequel we've been waiting for like fifteen years. Should be pretty good. I'm also counting on Randal fucking up writing the antagonists as awesome good guys as usual which means we get to be on the bad guy end of a full merc campaign. That should be fun.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

HBS only released like one actual DLC for their Shadowrun games. For a company run by a couple of kikes that's incredibly impressive.

Bidwell
Bidwell

wolves are a close second

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Lunatick
Lunatick

I'm hoping they follow their Shadowrun model and we get a series of games with a new story each game.

farquit
farquit

Sounds like it.

I mean it appears suggested the Taurians are the bad guys and outside of the jihad era (and even then it's arguable) that's never really been the case.

Evilember
Evilember

Been gone from this board for about year or more, now in a position where I have a moderate amount of free time. I'm completely out of the loop, anything happen while I was gone? Did catalyst do anything relevant In all honesty, I know the most likely answer to this question by now? Did any notable anons leave/disappear?

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TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Like Detroit on Devil's Night in The Crow.

Jesus Christ? Stop me if you've heard this one. Jesus Christ walks into an inn. He hands the innkeeper three nails, and he says ... Can you put me up for the night?

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RumChicken
RumChicken

Clans

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GoogleCat
GoogleCat

You died, Muninn.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

They actually made it the Star League dollar

It's the little things.

MPmaster
MPmaster

One of my favorite parts of the movie. I liked how they managed to make it dark without making it too edgy. It's a very fun flic.

But yeah, the dude I was playing against basically parked his AIV unit and just burned down the city we were fighting over (in).

RumChicken
RumChicken

Not Muninn, but please don't tell me Muninn is actually dead or gone. Is sprite user at least still here? How much did I miss?

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Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

That's the meme, that he got "truck of peace"d. The reality is he dropped off the face of the earth after moving to France and nobody else working on the TRO has access to the Paypal funds or his files, so they are soft-resetting the project with way more input from us. They basically admitted he was turning it into "TRO: Muninn and friends" and so they are going to get us in on the process to a much greater degree. And be transparent about what they are doing and how they are doing it.

Pixelbro's been MIA for a bit but I do think he stopped in a few months back. Inker, Pencilbro, and Bradicus(?) are all still here though. And Shimmy visits from time to time too.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Whats the best method to acquire star league mechs in mekhq from 3000 to 3049?

Skullbone
Skullbone

so they are soft-resetting the project with way more input from us
And be transparent about what they are doing and how they are doing it.
Shame about Muninn, but I suppose this is in a way bitter sweet boon. Hopefully I can find a thread in a archive that will help explain more.
Pixelbro's been MIA for a bit but I do think he stopped in a few months back. Inker, Pencilbro, and Bradicus(?) are all still here though. And Shimmy visits from time to time too.
Thank god, I was worried for a second everyone would disappear before I came back. Last I was here we were talking about Burrock Oberon's and Blood Spirit Taurian's and nuclear hell-in-the-cell's.

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DeathDog
DeathDog

Decision at Thunder Rift, duh.

But after the first couple Gray Death books skip right to Wolves on the Border

happy_sad
happy_sad

Get lucky and get Cache missions. Win them. Claim the 'Mech and the breach of contract that goes along with it.

iluvmen
iluvmen

It's not a BT mech, it's just a generic mecha thing with global rule 15 violations near it.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Ooh, someone still has the early art of the broadside. This is what the final version turned into, but I've got a soft spot for the old school derp look of the first draft.

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Emberburn
Emberburn

They talked about doing 4th Succession War and Clan Invasion in success so I'm ready to throw as much money as they need.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Wow, they really went "tank on legs" on the design with it. I'm ashamed to say I first thought of Steel Battalion: Heavy Armor when I looked at it at a glance

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

...so I've been out of the loop so long that I didn't get to see yet how the released Goshawk 2 mini looked like. I was always interested in getting an actual 1:285 sized one to replace the larger dark ages fig. I just want to know how this...

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Playboyize
Playboyize

...became this. Maybe its my eyes or the angle, but this isn't exactly what I had in mind. I can't believe I'm saying this, but the dark age figure looked better.

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hairygrape
hairygrape

They look pretty similar to me.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Head looks flat, arm look like knobby rectangle with ridges, and the detail is flat or non-existent. Understand I'm comparing it to this.

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TurtleCat
TurtleCat

I think the pose might be shit. Also there aren't any ammo feeds or wires going to the left arm.

Techpill
Techpill

finish up a planetary assault contract against B-veteran clannies, happy to have some rest to repair my mechs and try to work with the clan mechs I salvaged to see if I can get a timber wolf or nova in working order
hit complete contract, then "Due to the Clan Invasion crisis your employer has invoked the emergency clause and extended the contract 2 months"
now I have to do a base defense with a grand total of 6 functional mechs out of 12.

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Soft_member
Soft_member

rip in pepperoni

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Oh yeah, guess I might as well ask too, how has MekHQ/AtB changed? I got an update in my email a while back saying that the bug I submitted regarding fuel cells producing heat in battlemechs got fixed.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

LAMs get PLASTERED with penalties that most players forget. Or, more simply, a lot of people cheat - deliberately or not. The rules have been a bit of a clusterfuck since day 1.

• On the turn it transforms a LAM eats a +3 to-hit modifier >in addition< to its Attacker Movement Mod.
• When it transforms, the LAM may ONLY use the previous move mode, at half the normal MP. That means going 'Mech->AirMech you use half your 'Mech-mode Jump/walk/Run MP (rounding down) and then suffer ruinous to-hit penalties.
At the end of the conversion, you're still on the ground; you have to burn 5 WiGE MP next turn just to take off, and at least another 5 to hover/maintain altitude.

This is the big one that everyone forgets.

• Climbing more than one Level above the terrain costs an additional MP, and you spend an additional MP per hex moved above NoE in AM Mode. That means 3 for the initial climb and then 2 for every hex afterwards

Second-biggest "oopsie". Because:

• LAMs are only 1 Level high. They can't claim partial cover, and they must immediately crash or end movement if they enter woods in WiGE mode.
• They're subject to the TacOps Turn Modes rules AND sideslipping/skidding. Light AirMechs get no bonus on the Turn Modes tables either.
• Flak. Sweet, Sweet Flak.
• Nasty penalties on Random Skill rolls, and they pay more for skills in RPG generation. In standard play, you pay the BV penalties for Aero skills >and< 'Mech skills.
• In Air-Mech mode, your ground movement (if you use it to, say, get cover) is cut to a third of your 'Mech-mode walking MP. And you can't spend WiGE and ground MP in the same turn.

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VisualMaster
VisualMaster

that gif

Jesus christ, I need to watch some robotech

FastChef
FastChef

When did you last try it? It's not like there have been huge changes, but it's been improving steadily and is better than it was months ago. Mekhq now comes with a few rulesets to choose from on start up so you don't have to configure everything yourself. The battle integration is also better, AI never soft-locks now and salvage bugging out after a battle was fixed.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Tell me about your AU, user! What did you change? Are they minor changes, or big changes? Goofy or Serious?

Im thinking of one that diverges after the Terran Alliance lose their colonies, where the Dracs go full Sengekou Jidai and some Oda Nobunaga-type forges the Draconis Combine with fire and blood, and where both the Lyrans and the FWL dont exist yet, but are instead just a dozen or two different coalitions of independent democracies(where the worlds that will soon make up the Lyran Commonwealth go through a civil war that ultimately ends with some rich, son of a merchant military officer by the name of Steiner ultimately sets himself up as dictator, and eventual king. Like the Fall of the Roman Republic with Steiner as Caesar). Dunno about the Cappies, havent thought of anything.

There's going to be an emphasis on PURPLE BURD because I love democracy and Monarchs and Dictators are a sure fire way to ruin the lives of the majority of people.

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King_Martha
King_Martha

robotech

Macross or bust, silly american.

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Methshot
Methshot

ipodbots
No.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

ipodbots

Are you referring to the Regult and the Glaug? Those designs are great you fag. There's a reason why the MArauder is one of the best looking mechs in Battletech, and that's because its a shameless ripoff of the Glaug.

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DeathDog
DeathDog

No, that user is talking about how Macross is a troupe of musicians fighting the Zentraedi.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

That's all pretty great, I've been gone for a year so I don't know how much developments been going on. Guess I better download the latest version now.

Booteefool
Booteefool

Tell me about your AU, user! What did you change?
the great refusal happened before the clan invasion and went south into a war of reaving situation.
Steiner-davions died out and cadet branches assumed the thrones.
RoS didn't take over the prefectures, just demilitarized them.

farquit
farquit

oh. OH! Now I get it. At least Macross has catchy music, not whatever this is:

youtube.com/watch?v=xvbR92b8NXA

I personally think it's bad, because a) the lyrics are boring and/or dumb and b) the singer is sort of tone deaf(not as bad as me tho lol). The beat is okay, I guess.

Also, giant waifus in Robotech W H E N ?

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JunkTop
JunkTop

Also, giant waifus in Robotech W H E N ?
Literally half the plot of Battlecry is "you creamhah a Zent ace in the third battle, she goes yandere on you."

Also
Shut up and go to Amazon, they're both on Prime. So are Southern Cross and Mospeada, if you >really< want to regret/celebrate the eighties.
..I've had to keep it down to 3-4 eps a night of the latter two, for the sake of my liver.

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MPmaster
MPmaster

Literally half the plot of Battlecry is "you creamhah a Zent ace in the third battle, she goes yandere on you."
Wait, the video game Robotech Battlecry? That was on PS2, wasnt it? I may have to buy that.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

So I'm reading the Battletech Battlemech Manual open beta. It has this optional rule about sprinting. It says that attacks against a sprinting mech gets -1 to their target number modifier. So that means it's actually easier to hit a sprinting mech? I mean I get that it's probably harder to hit them since they're moving more hexes, but it seems strange since I expected the opposite. Is this a typo? I tried checking the Total Warfare book but it doesn't have the sprinting rule. Do people even use sprinting?

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SniperWish
SniperWish

Should be pretty good. I'm also counting on Randal fucking up writing the antagonists as awesome good guys as usual which means we get to be on the bad guy end of a full merc campaign. That should be fun.

How many times does it need to be saying, Randall Bills involvement with the Battletech: PC Game is minimal at best. He has nothing to do with the writing the story of the game, HBS have their own writing staff who have written really good Shadowrun games in the past.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

good book

SniperWish
SniperWish

Personally I hope more of Mass Effect way, that you transport your character from eariler games to the new games. I mean it's a mercenary company, they move alot. All that culminating into fighting the Clans in either Twycross or Luthien, like they did in MW2:Mercenaries

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Idk, from what they've shown you're just playing a generic commander. I do think it'd be neat if your actions effected a followup game's setting, but I don't think that's what they're going for.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

I think they talked about how expansions could just continue with your company from the endless part of the campaign. I don't know if that's still the plan or not but it would make sense if they're talking about 4th SW being next.

Inmate
Inmate

Yeah, PS2 and Xbox. Came out while I was deployed overseas, got home and found out that my local /vidya/store had reserved one of the special edition copies for me because I'd bought literally every other mecha game that had come out in the last three years from them and "We knew you'd want one". I still have the RDF dog tags and art.

There's a game-breaking bug that makes a couple of the later missions more, uh, winnable - First, replay a Space mission in a Super/Armored Valkyrie, then click "use same unit"/"Continue" (or something similiar, I forget teh precise details) on the mission select screen and it'll let you use Space-only units on ground maps. There's one mission in particular that involves a junkyard and a horny Zentraedi jilling off in her cockpit, and another with like fifty Nousjadel-Ger snipers, that are essentially impossible to win in a standard Valk.

Other than that, it's a fun little Ace Combat clone, but with micromissiles and transforming mecha.

You're easier to hit when Sprinting, and harder to hit while using Evasive movement. It represents the fact that you're just running balls-out in a straight line, not giving a fuck about cover. It's also intended to partially counterbalance the higher TMMs you can get by using it, without duplicating the failure modes for a Supercharger or MASC.

Total Warfare
It's a TacOps Movement Mode.

Does anyone use it?
My group does, but only for smaller-scale games. Then again we also play with Quirks and the odd bit of weather.

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Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Robotech Battlecry was pretty great. I remember playing it on Gamecube. I remember it being basically impossible to beat further in, but I was mostly concerned with the multiplayer anyway.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Just watched a cut scene compilation on youtube. I like the graphics. Wish more games had the cell shade look.

dat part at the end where the zent woman says the main character was all she could think about, and admits it may be love.
character says nah that's called psychosis

Cute. Too bad she died.

likme
likme

Same wording in the released book too. Check the OF or the BT website for errata, if they've even gotten around to making one.

Techpill
Techpill

No I think what it means is that when attacker is throwing to hit sprinting mech he is doing it with penalty, say he has to throw 9 or better normally but for sprinting mech he has to get 10 or better. Might be typo and they meant plus instead of minus. You have to remember that is Beta of BM Manual which CGL said would have errors in it that they get corrected in the actual Manual.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

AH nevermind explained it why the -1 on hit when Sprinting.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

I got the final hardback book and it says the same thing. I think is right when he says it's about just going balls out and running towards something.

iluvmen
iluvmen

The logic is the dude is focusing on maximum movement so easier to hit since he's not dodging and stuff. It's also why you can't fire or mechfu when you sprint.

I always play with it. It is so good strategically for bigger mechs in the early game when everyone is too far apart to shoot or for your scouts to really open up the throttle to get somewhere like cover or out of LoS. Always great for free movement in those situations when you don't need to shoot but need to wring out a few more MP from your machine.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Thanks guys. Looks like it's intended. Kinda makes sense too if you think of the normal movement modes as moving tactically.

Emberburn
Emberburn

F A C T

The Capellan Confederation is one of the most interesting societies in the inner sphere because it is more than just window dressing and actually influences the story and characters from there.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

actually influences the story and characters from there
3/4 main characters in their DA stuff aren't even born capellans or take part in normal capellan society and number 4 just pretends to be a god like daddy, not anything with proper historical tradition

heh

SniperWish
SniperWish

This is fake news. Go about your day Davion citizens.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Muninn's been MIA for just over six months, not more than a year.

cum2soon
cum2soon

NO KING RULES ME. DEMOCRACY IS NON NEGOTIABLE.

PURPLE BURD STRONK.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

OK, but giant waifus in Battle tech WHEN?

SniperGod
SniperGod

Now, mechwarrior.

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Supergrass
Supergrass

Would ripping the PPC from a MAR-6L for another plasma rifle and ton of ammo be stupidity or genius?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

The thing already runs hotter than hell's chilli cookoff. If I did any mods, it would be to cool it down a bit so you can actually use that stealth armor in combat. Like slap in a vanilla Large and a few more sinks.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Lucky you, that's not even in Robotech.

This is from DYRL.

massdebater
massdebater

Fuck, I just got two of my mechs blown up. Are light mechs a meme? Playing mekHQ btw. Oh and how come my pilots can't hit the broad side of a barn? Are these behemoth machines supposed to get up and close to the enemies instead of farting from afar like the mobile artillery they should be?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Uh what? That's from the opening of the original SDF Macross, not DYRL.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Doesn't like close quarters and physical combat
Wants to kite forever

You sound like a filthy clanner.

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Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Yes and yes.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Fiona is best waifu.

eGremlin
eGremlin

So I should be firing on the S zone instead? Also how come the Rifleman can karate chop our asses. This motherfucker pulled some mma shit and now two of my mechs are just glorified tables now. None of my mechs can even do a simple kick to save their lives.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

:D

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Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

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farquit
farquit

Long range fire in BattleTech ranges (hurr durr) from an appetizer to useless. The whole game is designed around getting up close and personal.

askme
askme

Depends on your piloting, the range, how far you moved, how they moved. Are you not looking at how all the modifiers stack? Also, lights are good but fragile and disposable. Keep the focus off them if you want them to live and do their job.

iluvmen
iluvmen

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likme
likme

PS: "Long Range Missiles" are a trick, they're shit at long range just like everything else.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Welcome to Battletech. Mighty machines of war killed by shooting their head with a medium laser and knocking them over falling on their face, shattering the cockpit glass, knocking the pilot unconscious and drowning them.

Techpill
Techpill

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Burnblaze
Burnblaze

dat eyebrow hair

SniperGod
SniperGod

Drowning people in level 1 puddles is the best. I prefer cracking the glass in space though.

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AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Keep the focus off them if you want them to live and do their job.
Or keep the focus on them and off your more valuable things.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Deaths aside, the best is just when your mechwarrior gets knocked out because a few dudes with pistols bounced some rounds off your cockpit.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Happened to me just yesterday in MM.Net.
Rifle Infantry strong.

cum2soon
cum2soon

I killed an Atlas with a plain old rifle platoon once. Only had like a squad left in it. Just enough for one damage and a floating crit to the cockpit.

Felt so fucking good because that Elsie scum had decapitated my pristine Longbow with a Gauss round just the turn before.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

My favorite was the time my brother >finally< downed a particularly irritating Phoenix Hawk and tried to step on the pilot. He whiffed, fell, and took a head TAC on the cockpit, killing the pilot.

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Skullbone
Skullbone

Is there infantry units specialize in killing mechs without power armors like in BT novel series of Archer Avengers?

SniperGod
SniperGod

That's some straight up loony tunes shit. Glorious.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Technically, any of them that can make "anti-mech attacks" have satchel charges and stuff for that purpose. You really gotta make them skilled to be good at it though.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I didn't see a unit named explicitly that yet, but there are infantry squads who do like 0.9 damage per trooper, with 25 troopers in the squad, so, don't underestimate and slaughter them all before they reach the safety of a building!

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Anti-mech infantry is a thing, yes.

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Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

In the mass repair prompt, what does BTH mean? And what's the recommended number I should be putting these in?

viagrandad
viagrandad

The CapCon is interesting and it's nice that they're finally winning for a change in their history.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

So I was perusing the mekHQ files and noticed the "fluff" folder which I assume is the set of images that is used by the hangar tab instead of the usual sprite. Is this a relatively new feature? How come you autists haven't chipped in and made one for all of the mechs?

happy_sad
happy_sad

It been there awhile, if you check Megamek homepage there should be downloabadle folder that contains most of the mechs hangar images.
Btw did anyone notice that in the newest version the Megamek the sprites for the unseen mechs like Archer and Rifleman changed and now look like Shimmyseens?

5mileys
5mileys

It's not new, and nobody does it probably because we all know what the mechs look like and it's just unnecessary bloat.

FastChef
FastChef

BURN EVERYTHING!

See that guy over there? Fuck him and everyone in the same square km as him!

cum2soon
cum2soon

Paradox has fuck all to do with it ffs. Its a HBS game.

Nojokur
Nojokur

This. I await the (hopefully) BT 3025 corollary titles to drsgonfall and hong Kong. Since this BT 3025 is just a shadow run returns. A dead mans switch, if you will. They've said all along they're not focusing in putting extra crap into the first BT 3025. They just want to make sure it works smooth and properly. So the next titles in hbs's BT games will be where they put more shit in. Plus people were already putting extra mechs and shit into the beta as mods themselves already. So full release should be workable.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

purpel born poster
not ruled by Marik family and heirs

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Better than those Regulan shitweasels.

Fact remains, the Mariks have been elected the whole time.

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SniperWish
SniperWish

Has this actor EVER had a role he's been shit at? Jesus fuck he was so HATEABLE as Sargeant Hakeswill. I probably seen him in half a dozen other things and not even realised it, because he subsumes himself totally into the character.

Illusionz
Illusionz

No, he was a great one.

Bidwell
Bidwell

How Brits train actors so good? Would be a better question.

JunkTop
JunkTop

They still grab them from the theater like Hollywood used to do a hundred years ago.

farquit
farquit

Classical theatre training. Always the best. Old ways are best ways.

Methnerd
Methnerd

You can't expect a culture based on crassness and the worship of falsehood like America to understand what's real and what's not. Paradoxically to be a great actor, it's essential to perceive the real. Cultural superiority, essentially.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Get back in your hole old man

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PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

It also helps that classical theatre training gives precisely no fucking shits what someone looks like, so you end up with fucking awesome actors and actresses who are iconically dissimilar from meritard genericness.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

The slags and chavs in the UK are worse than crackers and hood niggas in the US

Techpill
Techpill

lol that's a good pic

Wtf happened to Britain? London is fuckin run by a mudslime.

WebTool
WebTool

The British happened. All the good ones left or died and the rest just rolled over and gave up on their society.

Couldn't expect anything else, really - a nation of servile peasants can't succeed when they get rid of their rulers in a moment of pique.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

It looked better when it was bombed daily by the Luftwaffe than it does now.

massdebater
massdebater

Britain was never worth much on its own. The one thing they were good at was profiting off of colonies. Once that strategy stopped being viable it all fell apart.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Women's suffrage. Same with the US, France, Sweden, and every other country.

Illusionz
Illusionz

slags in the UK

Me not Slag any more. Producers say "Slag" offensive word "across the pond". Now, me Snarl!

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Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Still whiter than you mutts

happy_sad
happy_sad

Congratulations?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Unlikely.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Implying I'm an Amerimutt
Don't lump me together with those third worlders.

5mileys
5mileys

What's the point of Corrosive ammo?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Could an Arena fighter use a fluid gun to spray quick setting foam (something like a mech version of sticky foam) to hamper his opponents movements and aim? Are there rules for something like that?
If not, how would you guys make those rules?

Spamalot
Spamalot

Look what i found in an old SL datadisk!

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askme
askme

Not too long ago, I extracted all images from every available PDF with recordsheets to be able to print recordsheets from MegaMekLab with proper pictures for all mech variants. You can download archive and copy needed files into your fluff folder.

mediafire.com/file/89e70k89sab448v/fluff_images_RS.7z

Alas, there is no Unseens, no Shimmyseens and no mechs from TRO Prototypes because CGL don't give a shit about publishing recordsheets no more, and pictures from TROs looks weird on recordsheets because of backgrounds.

Illusionz
Illusionz

How interesting. Do you know who produced those bootlegs?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm


Apparenlt Hong Kong bootleg. Acording to the article it costed 0.25$ each with a candy.

collectiondx.com/toy_review/1985/space_puzzle_fighters

Evilember
Evilember

Hmm. How do I use this? Do I just dump it at the fluff folder and it'll automatically work or do I have to also edit some text files?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Neat. However if Quickscell ever stated manufacturing mechs they could advertise a free ton of candy with each mech.
You know they'd do it.

Bidwell
Bidwell

What's the leftmost one?

Methnerd
Methnerd

No idea, i only recognize the Griffin (Steiner Blue), SHawk (Purple Burd) and Goliath (Liao Green).

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Perhaps they aren't all BT ripoffs

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Probably similar to the chain whip or bola rules.

Evilember
Evilember

Yep, but you know it'd be those goddamn packing peanut 'circus peanut' candies.

Bidwell
Bidwell

So with the new build of MekHQ, I decide to try a comfy low-time investment/long term campaign of a Marik milita (actual militia, pdf nobodies, although the 34th would have fit the bill if I wanted to manage something that size) unit on the border with the Lyrans. I have to pick out the starting planet myself so I looked into one that gets some excitement but stays Purple over the centuries.

Did you guys know that the Tamarinds actually GAINED a world off the Lyrans during the breakup? Not just any world, Cavanaugh II, which is a King Arthur Themed Steiner fantasy camp. Elsewhere they were whining to Tharkad to hand stuff back but they actually walked off with one.

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Soft_member
Soft_member

It's somewhat complicated because of how MegaMek works (or how buggy it is). If you just dump files into fluff/mechs folder they will show up in mech selection window and other places. I don't remember how MegaMek works with subfolders, maybe some moving or renaming needed (at least for different variants of the same chassis).
But to print recordsheets you have to assign fluff images from MegaMekLab or edit .mtf files for every mech. Don't know about MekHQ, never used it.
So trial and error is the best way to find out

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Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

The FWL has actually gotten quite a few worlds off the Lyrans despite everything.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

How come Marik gets the best waifus?

DeathDog
DeathDog

youtube.com/watch?v=sa043A2fjCY

Nojokur
Nojokur

I don't play MWO. Is the buildings that can be destroyed by parts a new thing?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Marik
best waifus?

Just a fact of life, I guess.

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happy_sad
happy_sad

It's not MWO. It's Mechwarrior 5. You know, like Mechwarrior 4.

takes2long
takes2long

Wait, so they're making a MechWarrior single-player game using the MWO stuff?

Hallelujah!

FastChef
FastChef

No. It's offline (except it'll be forced online all the time and probably have denuvo too) MWO with everything not the player controlled by the brainless VIP mech AI.

This is the fucking PIG we're talking about, not some actually halfway a competent devs. Their headquarters is a fucking mall kiosk. That's how small and shit they are.
Only if you think VIP atlas AI is smart and challenging.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Looks fun.
When does it come out?

King_Martha
King_Martha

Looking out of one eye of the Atlas will always be weird.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

denuvo

wut

HQ is a mall kiosk
It can't be that bad

Firespawn
Firespawn

Mechwarrior 5. You know, like Mechwarrior 4.
I've been waiting for this for a decade. I can't believe it's finally here.

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CodeBuns
CodeBuns

2078.

Booteefool
Booteefool

You sound upset.
There's no need to get defensive and start throwing around lies and assumptions when the game hasn't come out yet.

Spamalot
Spamalot

They said 2018, but that was announced a year ago, in early development. So expect 2019.

iluvmen
iluvmen

The only things used from MWO are the mech and dropship models. The game engine is Unreal.

Techpill
Techpill

It is. They work out of s mall kiosk in canadialand. They are that shit. When people ask for balance patches that aren't shit or content, they just make another mechpak instead. They literally subsist off of selling whales mechs. Its not enough money to actually do anything. It just keeps the lights on.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I think that this waifu in particular is the best waifu because the user that made it was careful to make it plausible mechwarrior not-quite-declasse wardrobe. In canon everyone, even the 300-pound Steiner poltical tub 'o lard self-lubricated as he's squeezed into and out of his Zeus cockpit every battle can be seen in bikini briefs and a tank top, but Marik pretty much owns that Mittleeuropean Grand Hotel functional decadence look, cannonically.

WebTool
WebTool

Well the co-op will be fun at least, and if the game is shit then mod support means we will still get good shit.

FastChef
FastChef

HQ is a mall kiosk
It can't be that bad
"Piranha Games is one of the oldest independent game developers in the Vancouver area and is currently housed in the International Village Mall in the Chinatown area."

my fucking sides

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

The wizkids-induced breakup of the League was one of the dumber BT plots to unfold. They legit probably forgot Tamarind was still holding that world.

whereismyname
whereismyname

co-op

lulz

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

How do you fit 70 devs in there? wouldn't it be cramped?

likme
likme

No, they lost quite a few, they just took it before the reunification.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Genuinely amazed, I honestly expected this to never come out.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

You will be sorely dissapointed. Go play MWO. MW5 is just going to be more of the same. Except single player. So horribad.
They're a bunch of Jews and idiots.

let's fire everyone who actually knows how to code or even animate or use art assets! Its not like we alienated, insulted and drive off crytek so they won't teach anyone we hire how to do anything. Oh wait, we did! Shit! Convert anyone with ns paint experience into mech pak teams! Ignore patches and coding, blame 'deep seated cryengine errors' for things literally everyone else who's used CE have fixed.

SniperWish
SniperWish

? They announced it at mechcon.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

What's the point of Corrosive ammo?
Lulz.
Well, that and scrubbing specialty armors off of battle armored infantry.

happy_sad
happy_sad

How would you refit the Warhammer -7M?

For starters I was considering dropping the MG and it's ammo for CASE and more armor. What would you do?

I'm planning on doing a mini-TRO of refits for Marik mechs from the 3040s and 3050s along lines of what front line units would prefer.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Developer may be shit but if the game's good I'll buy it. It's not like I'm pre ordering or anything. Were you an employee there or something?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

We're talking about a company that actually thinks the AI they made for VIP mode is good. Let that sink in. They actually think the VIP mechs don't-give-him-a-spoon-he'll-just manage-to-stab-himself-to-death-with-it AI is competent, skilled, industry leading work.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

I did one where I swapped out the PPCs for ER large lasers and used the extra tonnage for more armour and a couple ER medium lasers.

Bidwell
Bidwell

First Battletech game comes out, and then this. Are Mech games finally on the rise again? Will we see another golden age?

Inmate
Inmate

No. Just a long term mech addict. With only MWO to keep withdrawal symptoms at bay.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Don't know about Muh Marik 8-clusters with the PPCs, but would this work? Could a refit add a half a ton of armor and CASE easily?

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TechHater
TechHater

For starters I was considering dropping the MG and it's ammo for CASE and more armor. What would you do?
That would be a good plan, absolutely. You might also consider FF armor to maximize protection, it has the crits for it, and if it's a factory model instead of a kit, use Endo to max out standard armor and perhaps add some SPLs for anti-infantry

JunkTop
JunkTop

This. I couldn't care less about multiplayer, I just want to play a new Mechwarrior game just like the old ones.

You could always play MWLL or replay Black Knight.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Well some news site called this the year of battletech, but if PGI and CGL don't deliver on time the year of Battletech will have some serious issues. Mainly lack of 'battletech'.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

PS. Don't get your hopes up. Don't believe them in any way, they'll just lie, take your money, and then deliver a fried dogshit instead of the steak you ordered and paid for.

PPS. google the forum post on the official MWO forums where the company explicitly told players and fans they can go fuck themselves, and big more fucking mechpaks. They told the player base everything is the players fault because they're not all gold whales.

cum2soon
cum2soon

It doesn't seem like it would do that any more efficiently than anything else. I feel like I'm missing something.

Bidwell
Bidwell

I have played through mech commander 1 and 2, mech warrior 4, bk, v and mercs.

So many times its muscle memory.

DeathDog
DeathDog

PS. Don't get your hopes up. Don't believe them in any way, they'll just lie, take your money, and then deliver a fried dogshit instead of the steak you ordered and paid for.
Just wait for reviews and not preorder then? Still the plan.

PPS. google the forum post on the official MWO forums where the company explicitly told players and fans they can go fuck themselves, and big more fucking mechpaks. They told the player base everything is the players fault because they're not all gold whales.
How would I even go about googling this? Is this the cheapskates meme? I know about that one.

TechHater
TechHater

HBS's BT 3025 in April is the one bright spit on the horizon for fans.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Remove MG and AMS, add 2.5 tons of FF armor and CASE.
Possibly also remove those 4DHS you don't really need and add jump jets
Or just another four MLs

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

The reviews will lie. They always do. The already existing pieces for the demo are so hilariously overt. They're not even trying.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Are you the same user? I think you might need to do some breathing exercises. In all seriousness I try to browse youtube and gaming forums when I think somethings a little sketchy on the game. Even if this game delivers everything as promised I have a feeling you'd find a way to pick it apart somehow.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

The already existing pieces for the demo are so hilariously overt. They're not even trying.
So it's obvious, but they're lying? I don't quite understand your logic here, friend.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Anyone know if the Rim Worlds Republic had another crest or symbol other than the Amaris Shark?

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Emberburn
Emberburn

Yes. They're obviously lying, and we're expected to believe it, to eat that shit up. They know there's no alternative so they don't bother trying. MW 5 is only even a thing because they saw the dollar signs watching HBS succeed. All mw5/is going to be is a polished shiny turd they're gonna to doublespeak BS at you to get you to eat it and like it. So just, don't. Pirate that fucker sure. But don't PAY them for it.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Let's not forget there will be no customization and no story

Firespawn
Firespawn

I know about PGI, and I pay attention to the MWO 'scene' or whatever and have followed MW5 since the original announcement and played the prealpha at mechcon. If the game is shit, I will not buy it. If the game is good, I will buy it. This is a different team and if they make a good product I will pay them for it so that I can see more of it.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Have you seen these?
youtube.com/watch?v=CpQMq2SMxSs

Booteefool
Booteefool

wait, when did this happen?
can someone give me the rundown?

Bidwell
Bidwell

It hasn't happened yet. Game is supposed to come out early 2019.

Here's what we know. Game will be made on latest unreal engine. Buy to play like old MW games. No DLC.

Offline singleplayer. Online 4 player co-op.

Set in 3027-3049. Full merc company starting from scratch with only a Shadowhawk.

Will feature a campaign similar to previous MW games.

Mechs will have a limited number of hardpoints on top of stock so you can't just stick 20 medium lasers onto something and call it a day.

Full modding support like all other unreal games.

iluvmen
iluvmen

People that made MWO are making the new Mechwarrior game. Some people are optimistic, some people are still very salty about MWO.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

December 2016 we got youtube.com/watch?v=Gz8Y1V8gy1A
December 2017 we got youtube.com/watch?v=ztqhTjLVfgs and they announced co-op and post release mod support.
It uses Unreal Engine 4 and is trying to be more like Mechwarrior 1. You start at 3015 and go to before clan invasion. Combined arms, I think with infantry but we haven't seen any of that. Stock mechs with some 'minor' customization (it was like techs or something that give bonuses i think)
That's all we know 2018 release date last I checked but I doubt it will happen.

girlDog
girlDog

Hey guys, where i can read some lore about Battletech.

WebTool
WebTool

sarna.net/wiki/Main_Page

viagrandad
viagrandad

Mechs will have a limited number of hardpoints on top of stock so you can't just stick 20 medium lasers onto something and call it a day.

Here's a question- were aircraft bombs always like that and I only noticed later?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Books in the op post.
Start with reading old ones, one of the Classic Universe ones is a good start.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Why couldn't the Lyrans get along with the FWL instead of being a cu ck to the Federated Suns?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

It doesn't seem like it would do that any more efficiently than anything else. I feel like I'm missing something.
They don't really do what they're intended to do. The ammo does do 1.5x damage against specialty armor and CI, but takes a cluster hit that neuters the bonus damage; only an MML-3 can even get max damage out of the launcher. Most launchers are neatly fucked by the cluster hits curve. Your chance of rolling minimum damage is now 1:3, and while your effective minimum damage goes up slightly, the loss of your entire top end screws you hard on the majority of them.

MML-9 -
Standard SRMs: avg 10.94/hit
AX warheads: avg13.4/hit (~1.2x effective damage bonus)

SRM-6:
Std: 8
AX: 9.66* (x1.21 EDB)

MML-5
Std: 6.4*
AX: 7.5 (x1.16 EDB)

MML-3 -
Standard: 4.55*
AX: 4.833* (x1.06 EDB)

SRM-2 -
Standard: 2.5
AX: 3.0 (x1.2 EDB)

So the math shakes out to, at best, about a 1.2x bonus and (across launchers) more like 1.15x. It's not non-existent, but it >fucks< you against conventional armor, to the tune of losing around 40% of your total average damage for that minimal bonus against specialty armor.

Especially since Inferno ammo just straight-up deletes a trooper per hit, and an MML-9 stands a good 66% chance of wiping out an entire Elemental Point per hit.

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Supergrass
Supergrass

I dunno. I like Three Dog Night, Gigi Agrama, Michael Bradley and Joanne Harris okay.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt5Am4wVXzs
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ncAcm2OlV4
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICqvXYRIIA8
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcOLWwpJF9o

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

They told the player base everything is the players fault

Wow, so MWO actually is just like real Battletech. The fanbase fucks up everything.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Because everytime the Steiner accumulated retardation reaches critical mass and it looks like the Commonwealth is going throw them off like an embarrassing mistress, they go break the border with the FWL and everything settles down domestically. Being Lyran is all about being big and prosperous enough for there to be no consequences to being run by Steiners.

Dark Age's crowning glory was how time ran out on *that* strategy. FWL reformed, Lyran Commonwealth on life support and a few more lost systems away from being multiple political entities whether they like it or not- and they did it to themselves by acting like a bunch of Steiners, over and over again. Whaling on Mariks, betraying mercs, disregarding clans, and assuming an ally's only fit reward is the opportunity to at some later date be allowed an audience in front of a pair of decommissioned Griffons to express gratitude for a chance to die for House Steiner.

only this ain't the mid 31st century
it's the 32nd
went DIFFERENTLY this time

RavySnake
RavySnake

Even if this game delivers everything as promised I have a feeling you'd find a way to pick it apart somehow

We don't have to pick it apart. It's a product I don't like, and therefore it is bad in every possible way, including ones I haven't thought of yet.

Also, you're a cuck for thinking it could be good.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Why are you calling corrosive AX?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Archons historically sucked ass fighting the Dracs, so they kept attacking the FWL in hopes it would crack and they could steal glory. Aside from their surprise attack on Bolan that triggered the Succession Wars on that front, and some brief gains quickly lost during the ComStar War, many an archon has learned that it's an unwinnable front.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

I forgot, can you salvage allied mechs? I'm doing a Steel Viper campaign and I got zero omnimechs to start with, getting at least one or two before the Invasion starts would be nice.

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kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Apparently players are the devil for not buying more 500 dollar mech packs. Apparently mwo players are all supposed to take out second and third mortgages on their houses and give all the money to the pig.

Techpill
Techpill

The point is it will deliver nothing but the taste of ashes in your mouth. The bottle of sand in the desert given to the man dying of dehydration. When he's too far gone to notice its sand, not water.

Mw5 is a cruel cruel joke. A bit if Corpirate exploitation. If it even us delivered, it'll be a vile, shallow mess if shit. It'll be fucking cod wearing a mech skin.

Have you PLAYED mwo? They've gone so far away from anything recogniseably BT or mW in order to try to appeal to call of battlehonour advanced combateringer ADHD children its not fucking funny

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Why are you calling corrosive AX?

Just a guess, but didn't the Acid Warheads the NAIS introduced in Prometheus Unbound go by that name ... or are he and I both thinking of Car Wars? I can't find my copy of Prometheus, and for some reason I lack an electronic version.

Firespawn
Firespawn

PURPLE BURD STRONG

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farquit
farquit

Are there more of these for the other Houses and clans?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Well, if you want something to succeed, you have to support it. If the price of supporting something is that much, then you can either support it and get what you want, or let it die and accept the responsibility that you let that happen.

Seems a simple enough choice. I'm reasonably sure you just have a guilty conscience at this point. Nobody would protest something so much without one.

RumChicken
RumChicken

there was a drac one and a blakist one, and I can't remember the rest. Then the IRC ran with it for a little while.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Oh look. A piggy Stockholm victim here to shill for his masters. That'll do lil' pig. That'll Do. I'm sure your masters will love you now and give you a patch that isn't fucking cancer.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

I was thinking of Acid SRM warheads from TacOps (which has updates of all the stuff from P.O. except that bullshit FrankenMech)

Corrosive Fluid Gun ammo is also deeply lulzy. Does 1d6 + an additional 1d3 in the end phase, with 1-point clusters. Good for critseeking and annoying your opponent, but (like most Fluid Gun stuff) is mainly just a stopgap measure for up-gunning IndustrialMechs. Or being a prick in Solaris.

Against infantry it's just a flamethrower.

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Booteefool
Booteefool

holy shit this is legit good sounding stuff

is the voice acting and writing as bad as I think it is? All I've ever seen is this one scene:
youtube.com/watch?v=WmkgCi5BO70

I've also heard the show was just overall bad. I like the original Macross, but can see its flaws(which frustrates me to no end. Do a remake, Kawamori, the franchise is more popular than ever now).

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Soft_member
Soft_member

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RavySnake
RavySnake

The lady doth protest too much, methinks

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Fuck off, retard.

Illusionz
Illusionz

The entire FWL military system means that it's almost impossible to mount a meaningful offense, but on the D they're hard as nails. Pretty common with confederacies.

massdebater
massdebater

The entire FWL military system means that it's almost impossible to mount a meaningful offense, but on the D they're hard as nails. Pretty common with confederacies.

What's with their military system? IS it just volunteers or soemthing?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

youtube.com/watch?v=H37aEEzPfuo

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viagrandad
viagrandad

What's with their military system? IS it just volunteers or soemthing?

Militarized cuckoldry

Inmate
Inmate

Just fuck off already.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Militarized cuckoldry
What the fuck does that even mean? Will you actually write something instead of screeching meme words, you stupid fucking meme lord?

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GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Don't think so, no.

otherwise I'd have walked off with a Leopard I accidentally dropped into a lake
honestly surprised that killed it, though

Booteefool
Booteefool

waaa waaa I have no argument and now I must REEEEEE

SURE THING BUDDY. I'll get right on that.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Each sub-state has their own military/militia, and they tithe troops to the Federal army. Various noble families >also< have private troops that stick to their own states.
To mount an offensive campaign, the Burds have to rely on their comparatively tiny Federal forces, whatever mercs the Feds can afford, and whatever troops the states (and Irian) will lend them. Fractious, low-morale troops who have to be convinced that the current campaign is worth dying for.
So you can usually get troops from the Elsie border to go along with fucking them up, but good luck getting Andurien to give a shit. Or to pony up cash/supplies to help the war effort.
Once the enemy actually gets >inside< FWL territory and starts threatening everyone, then shit gets real. The private armies and massive but moderate-quality State militias can locally hold an invader while the Feds use their troops (usually accustomed to raiding and spoiling attacks) as a fast-reaction group. No matter how much Andurien may hate Regulus, once they've got enemy troops within one jump of the border they suddenly care a whooole lot more.

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likme
likme

What I think he means is that there is a lot of red tape involved in deploying offensively, but defensive action is easier to muster sure to emergency consolations given to the heads of state.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

2018
defending the pig

WebTool
WebTool

2018
thinking the pig is going to deliver a cohesive product that isn't a total dogs balls

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

I get a sublime amount of schadenfreude from pissed off reactions like yours, personally.

I hope Mechwarrior 5 sells 10 million copies just to keep your bitchtears flowing.

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Nojokur
Nojokur

Not to mention, the FWL has a HUGE navy. So when they are fighting at home they have a big advantage in terms of screening invasion areas, cutting supply lines, shooting up landing groups, etc.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Goliath scorpion are my personal favorite.

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lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Frankly I dunno why people bother arguing over hearsay and conjecture. Nobody knows what the game will be like. We can only know what it is when we have it. Till then, they all sound like retards to me.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

2018
still using UMAD and 'I was only pretending to be retarded ha ha ha'

Spamalot
Spamalot

Because people will just be dissapointed. The company have shown time and again they are patently incapable of anything even approaching competency or even delivering a product that BT/mW fans want.

REEEEtard
Is just shitposting how good its going to be because he's got to justify having fed the pig already.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

finally getting some clan on clan action. even though the BV is even I feel like it will be a steamroll either way. It's raining hard and there's some strong wind so If I can knock them down with their mediocre piloting they should stay down, but at the same time with their superior Omnimechs They'll probably fuck me in an open battle

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Emberfire
Emberfire

In practice that's actually been a meme. Usually about 75% of their military is federal or from provinces so loyal as to essentially be federal, and they get the bulk of the budget and equipment. The provincial units unwilling to conduct offensives (which is almost always not a thing since even the Regulan Hussars were always spoiling for a fight) are able to act as border defense.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Look, I get why you're mad. Russ Bullock fucked your wife and you're on a never ending vendetta against him. But you have it backwards, you fucked up when you married her and should be pissed at her, not shitposting about a videogame company on every forum that talks about mechgames.

Your wounds will never heal as long as you continue to pick at them. Take a deep breath, turn off the computer, and go outside. Do something productive with your life while you still have it. You're old enough to know better. All this anger and hate isn't doing you any favors, and if you think anything you've said is persuasive you're sadly mistaken.

Stop with the denial. Get help.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

ha ha ha KEK!

The fact that you think this kind if insult is somehow a counter in any way to

cocaine is bad for you, don't fucking use it.

Just goes to show how Stockholm'd you are.

Also, Russ is a figurehead.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

How does MekHQ handle Clan vs Clan campaigning? Salvage and shopping the same as a merc, or does it have a separate setup for dealing with Clan rear echelon?

Lot of those instrumentals are good too, yeah.

is the voice acting and writing as bad as I think it is?
Probably.

The three series are obviously unrelated, but other than that I don't think the story is too awful. They're all just SLOW. When I watched it I had to crank it up to 1.5x or 2x speed to make it tolerable.

Lunatick
Lunatick

the whole planet! Are they all destroyed?
probably
oh no!
They played those lines in the Battlecry game when you entered cheat codes.

DeathDog
DeathDog

What an absolute cluster fuck. My P Hawk got 3 engine crits on turn 1 and was destroyed, I only won because my Marauder wasn't completely destroyed which would have pushed me over the 50% mark.

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Nojokur
Nojokur

Why would you post this?
That's real messed up.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Trying way too hard there pall, reel it in.

happy_sad
happy_sad

forgot to answer your question, playing as part of a faction rather it's a house or a clan is pretty much the same as a merc, except all your contracts are from your faction instead of anyone. I took a security duty contract against Jade Falcon on Wark.

Inmate
Inmate

Am I supposed to feel sad for that shitposter now? Because I don't.

Methnerd
Methnerd

I choose to believe this

Firespawn
Firespawn

Where are these songs from? I'm here holding my vinyl copy of the Robotech BGM Collection (Vol I), and none of this stuff is on here. I see that Michael Bradley is listed in the credits (is he the singing voice of Lancer/Yellow Dancer, then?).

I have the entire series on DVD, but it's been decades since I watched the whole thing. My memories are somewhat ... foggy beyond what's on this record.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

NEW THREAD...
veekyforums.com/thread/58522907/games
veekyforums.com/thread/58522907/games

Supergrass
Supergrass

That explains everything.

Sad.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

I'm glad to find another Seeker here

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likme
likme

Build a bridge and get over it. Move on with your life. Get a new hobby. This is weird obsession levels of shittalking.

Firespawn
Firespawn

comparatively tiny Federal forces
Meh, not really. Even at the FWLM's lowest, in 3025, it had 22 Federal regiments and 15 provincial regiments of such steadfast loyalty (they'd literally never refused a command) that they're essentially Federal plus 5 regiments of the Regulan Hussars who were always spoiling to be let loose and fight. This is compared to about 14 provincial regiments that are mostly better left guarding their provinces anyway (Protectorate Guard, Silver Hawk Irregulars, Stewart Dragoons, Defenders of Andurien and Sirian Lancers).

Most of the fractiousness comes from Parliament debating purse strings and whatnot.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

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