>Previously on /5eg/: How well does your party actually work together, /5eg/? Do you listen to each other and help each other out even when not asked directly, or is it every man for himself until someone gets knocked unconscious? For example, when was the last time the Barbarian stopped what he was doing and grappled something so that the squishy caster could get away? Have you ever seen a Wizard cast Darkness on a Rogue, knowing he had Blindsight? It's a team game, so how good is your team?
they're all good life has the spells that are the best by default, so if you want variety chose something else
Carter Harris
What the fuck is this axe?
Christian Kelly
bottom left corner, is that houseplant or a drink?
Brayden Gonzalez
Guy in my group wants to be a gnoll. What homebrew do i give him?
James Brown
Dwarven
Pathfinder
Jayden Lopez
How do I play an Oath of Devotion Paladin that isn't obnoxious?
Was going to play an Oath of Vengeance Paladin, but fucking Shield Master looks like a blast, and I haven't played a walking mass of 'try and hit me' in a long fucking time. I can't help but feel like Paladin's should usually be SnB anyway.
Not to mention my DM likes to throw a lot of of hard hitting shit at us, so the extra AC would be welcome.
Would it be retarded to do a subclass for monk that has a stance? Like, he can enter it as a free action, but he can maintain it only for a limited amount of rounds, because it is strenuous.
Yes, it's retarded, because the monk equivalent of strenuous work is spending ki points. So do something that spends ki points to be maintained.
Zachary Edwards
>How do I play an Oath of Devotion Paladin that isn't obnoxious? Judge Dredd with healing spells.
Connor Stewart
Why?
Joshua Ross
Knowledge because expertise really like the Arcana's banish channel divinity aswell
Angel Martin
Give him Lizardfolk. Replace the word Lizardfolk with Gnoll. Done.
Luis Fisher
>havent played a walking mass of try and hit me you want Oath of Ancients >cant hit me >resistance to all spells >if you reach 15th level you can return from 0 hit points
Christian Ortiz
Ok lad here's what you do, lead by example. That's it, don't try and brow beat the rest of the party into being like you, don't try and convert them to the word of Pelor(if your going the follow a god angle) unless they ask you to, don't try and smite other players because they do something you disagree with. Do try to come to compromise with them on disagreements that don't completely undermine your values, try to show them a better way instead of just preaching at them, always remember that if they don't wish to put their lives on the line for innocents that is there decision but this is where you stand and perish if need be. If the dick ass thief wants more of a reward that you can see would hurt the payer, simply offer to make up the difference to them as you can, edgelord of the party decides it's best to torture a captive simply intervene and try talking it over instead.
Figured ol' Joe would be an Oath of Conquest Paladin.
As much fun as that subclass looks, the story for this character doesn't really lend itself to the nature-theme of the OotA Paladin. Not to mention we already have a Druid and a Ranger.
I wish I would've decided on a subclass earlier and built this story around a nature theme, but as it stands now he's a noble's son who left his title and struck out on his own, eventually joining an order warriors/knights.
Adam Price
Would the Dwarven Fortitude feat combine with the Durable feat?
Ryan Walker
Personally I would be curious to hear what rules you find people ALWAYS get wrong, or your table always seems to get wrong.
I'm in my second group now that seems to think that Sneak Attack automatically gives Rogues Advantage if they're eligible to sneak attack (..which would mean it loops back on itself; advantage lets you sneak attack which gives you advantage). No one seems to be able to read it 'You have to have advantage OR fulfill these other criteria'.
But I don't want to rules lawyer and step on the rogues fun, after the first groups rogue got really pissy.
Grayson Torres
I like this, this is helpful. Thanks user.
Easton James
Why are people saying that monks suck?
Cameron Williams
Because they've read that red book
Blake Diaz
Because it doesn't do massive DPR that people can stroke their internet ego over.
Nathaniel Robinson
You can just speak with your DM and refluff it as the Ancients being your Noble-Blooded Ancestors. You know, Ancestor worship, like the ancient romans and chinese used to do.
>How do I play an Oath of Devotion Paladin that isn't obnoxious? Just don't go around preaching
Lucas Jenkins
every group I've been in has used critical fails and successes in skill checks of course
Ayden Lee
My DM refuses to interpret sneak attack as anything other than a bonus on attacks from stealth. Thus rogues are useless in his games
Asher Williams
Free actions aren't really a thing in 5e. Limited rounds thing seems weird to me. Ki already covers a lot of that. I posted a .pdf of a feat based martial art stance system (that I think is kind of silly) in the other thread ( ), so check that out. Honestly, it seems like it would be the same issue as battlemaster though - why does one subclass get what ostensibly should be base monk abilities?
I always thought Dredd would be a great Conquest Paladin. But yeah, Devotion doesn't mean you have to be lawful nice.
Jackson Bell
You have already displayed you have shit taste by the art you posted. There is no point in explaining to you what makes the system good.
Parker Morris
But I can roleplay as a reckless knight who drops his longsword mid-fight to bash in some heads.
Angel Nguyen
has he actually read the sneak attack feature? >Once per turn, you can deal an extra 1d6 damage to one creature you hit with an attack if you have advantage on the attack roll. >You don't need advantage on the attack roll if another enemy of the target is within 5 feet of it, that enemy isn't incapacitated, and you don't have disadvantage on the attack roll.
Evan Gutierrez
Leftovers from 3.5, I believe. And also monk isn't a good class for those ultra minmaxed builds like Paladin 6 / Hexblade 2 / Divine Soul Sorc X or whatever
Noah Lopez
Grave because I like darker powers.
Samuel Morris
Basically because its a skirmisher class to some degree. They work best in specific situations that don't necessarily white room super well, and one of their subclasses is the worst trap option in the game.
I don't mind critical fails/success in skill checks to some point, as long as people realize it doesn't make the impossible happen. If someone wants to fluff out that they just make the task look impossibly easy / skillful, fine. If someone wants to do 'le dwarf flaps its wings and flies', fuck off.
That.. Thats just weirder to me. That's massively misreading the rules, to say the least. I guess on the plus side the rogues can bonus action hide > sneak attack? Though that seems wonky as fuck.
Elijah Clark
Well, I can go monk/rogue/fighter for ultimate mobility. Make that rogue a swashbuckler, fighter into a battlemaster and monk into a rapier kensei and it's quite decent.
Ethan Perry
How Darkvision actually works is probably the most frequent rule I see people messing up.
Jace Carter
Yes
Hudson Nelson
>one of their subclasses Please don't say kensei, please don't say kensei, please don't say kensei... Fuck, it's kensei, isn't it?
Anthony Collins
We've tried arguing that sneak attack, mechanically is there so rogues actually do something in combat. The roleplay intepretation could be they do literally sneaky attacks in fights, exploiting distractions. But no he disregards the description and only reads the title. "It's a sneak attack. In combat the participants are actively looking out for their surroundings and their enemies, they can't be sneak attacked in fight if they've seen you".
No rogues in our game any more.
Hudson Johnson
Way of the four elements
Jonathan Adams
Relax, it's Wot4E. It rivals PHB Beastmaster Ranger for worst class archetype in 5e.
Liam Williams
I think it's the Four Elements thingy. Nearly all of it's subclasses features are inferior and more costly than normal monk features
Jason Jackson
Relax. Kensei is pretty dull, but it's basically a straight upgrade to base Monk.
WoT4E is the trap, it sucks.
Ryan Edwards
Is it possible to play hour and a half sessions? Is it too short?
Wyatt Sullivan
Oh. Well, Avatarfags should suffer.
Dominic Rogers
Well it has a straw...
Juan King
>I always thought Dredd would be a great Conquest Paladin. But yeah, Devotion doesn't mean you have to be lawful nice. Devotion is fluffed to go hard into the Justice and Reason ideas of Law, whereas Conquest is more about Control.
Adam Williams
>homebrew There's already official material to make a gnoll character. Look in Volo's
Charles Gray
they should have called it "trick attack" or something because i've heard this story way too often
Henry Mitchell
I keep seeing people talking about Eberron drow. What makes them that different/interesting compared to other settings? I took a look online and they still seem evil-aligned and just have native american motifs, dont live in a matriarchy, and worship a scorpion god instead of the usual spider one.
I would like to give a lich a GOOlock-styled background, because forbidden magic secrets are the best kind, but would it be better to just keep them a wizard and give them a few spells along the lines of Hunger of Hadar than bullshitting a way for a warlock to go lich? Their very limited spell selection doesn't really jive well with a lich learning new magic over centuries.
Dominic Rodriguez
My mistake. Now that I think about it, it's fucking dumb to play as a Gnoll more than any other monster race, unless of course you're playing a janky ass monster campaign in which the rest of the monsters are helping you slaughter everything in the world.
Evan Robinson
My group's sessions are usually an hour and a half. It's possible, but honestly it's WAY too short. You generally can't accomplish as much as you'd like and are left wanting more. You may end up spending multiple sessions on single fights, which causes things to slog just a bit.
Kevin Edwards
now do a good-aligned Oath of Conquest Paladin.
Jace Phillips
If you learn spells so slowly, you might want some extra centuries to acquire more. Also, take a look at Illithilich for inspiration. Add some tentacle stuff and psionics.
Jordan Bailey
Excellent, thank you.
Nicholas Hughes
>Conquest isn't good Beta.
Eli Ross
But Conquest is pretty bad outside of 1 gimmick GMs wont allow to shit up the entire game :^)
Luis Wright
Thanks for your input! Honestly, I've only played 4 hours long sessions with a brief stop midway to eat some. My new group wants to start gaming but playing 1.5 hours games. And I can't imagine it.
Parker Collins
getting tired of these blatant Ghenghis Khan posts
Jacob Williams
not once did I say conquest paladins aren't 'good', as a matter of fact I asked for him to elaborate on good conquest paladins.
begone with you faggot.
Jaxon Carter
swap out a few of the Lich's spells for some the GOOlock expanded spells, throw in Crown of Madness, swap PWK for Gate, and maybe swap out Paralyzing Touch for Create Thrall
Parker Morales
I was talking about good in the moral sense bro.
Colton Young
and I was calling you a dumb faggot.
Lincoln Bell
Officially, Oath of Conquest paladins are not necessarily evil, but they have kind of lost hope that people can fix themselves and the world can become a good and happy place, so they started forcing everyone to follow the rules instead. So they lean LN/LE. Here is a vid that can clarify.
Hey Crawford when are you guys finally firing Mearls? It's about fucking time right?
Isaac Jenkins
You are welcome. Make sure to also check out the video on the Drow and the new cool genderfluid feature we are giving some elves! youtube.com/watch?v=hgP6JnWh4Ig
Kayden Jones
"You or someone else can make a ranged spell attack with one of the pebbles by throwing it or hurling it with a sling."
Your pact weapon is the Sling.
Otherwise you'd only get your charisma the once. You need the spell PLUS hexblade and invocations to get it added all three times.
Jaxon Myers
Very well, most will instantly see conquest as someone out to crush others under their boot. This does not have to be the case though, you believe that the laws help to create order in the lands and through this order good can be done for the benefit of all. When you seek to snuff out hope, it is in the hearts of the wicked who would abuse innocents, always trying to be one step ahead, being relentless in your pursuit and ensuring that not one escapes justice. When you speak of ruling with an iron fist, it is ruling above those who flaunt the law and erode the foundations of society. If a person has broken the law their circumstances do not matter, but above all the punishment will be fair and seek to correct the situation. To you showing strength of community, strength of brotherhood and strength of society is how you execute strength above all. In the long run, you are out to strike fear into the hearts of those who would do evil and deter them before they even begin.
We were planning on doing so this week, however he heard the news and took the UA that was supposed to release a couple of days ago. He is now holding the document hostage, and we had to release a humiliating piece of promotional material for our next book, "Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes", instead.
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Xavier Moore
S O C I A L J U S T I C E
Landon Thompson
N E W F A G
Parker Ortiz
user, , is right. You really should look at picking up healing spells, especially the Life Domain spells. Other great spells are Spirit Guardians and Spiritual Weapon.
Think about whether or not you are going to heal when they are low, or only after they drop to 0.
Aaron Gomez
You know, sage advice has answered a lot of stupid questions, has anyone put forward this one yet so you can show your DM that he’s so very wrong?
Seriously though that’s daft. Does he at least allow the bonus action hide?
Henry Hall
Good post,more Knights please Mother fucker.How does he keep getting away with it?!
I wanted to try and do a C'thulu/Lovecraft type short campaign for some of my players because they love that shit, but they're not very keen on learning a new system.
I know there are madness rules and a few other things in the DMG and some UAs, but how would I go about other things like classes and such?
Justin Price
>/pol/faggotry Stop this. You failed abortions have your own board to shitpost on.
Andrew Anderson
>5E is for SocJus transgender tumblrinas >Pathfinder is for Downs syndrome mongoloids Checks out.
Landon Rivera
LMFAO painful
Connor Garcia
>Leftypol faggotry Nuff said.
Easton Scott
People are retarded and think Lovecraft = tentacles and people going crazy over how fast the space is and how humans cant comprehend it or some shit. Make them run some dumbass wisdom saves and mark down madness points on fail. If they fail by more than 5 marks on the roll (roll 9 on a CR15 check) give them double points. Put some spooooky tentacle monsters in there. You are done.
Aaron Gutierrez
>J-just leave (((them))) and their leftist puppets take over your hobby lmao! >s-stop resisting! Fuck off paid shill.
Isaiah Young
>take over your hobby Can't wait for the neckbeard concentration camps desu
Xavier Martin
NPCs don’t really have to follow class metrics. Beyond that, you can just fluff the lich as animated as their patron. Super easy to do. Just don’t make it a “traditional” lich.
Jackson Sanders
Definitely close to what I had in mind, sounds great.
Alexander James
And the autism continues. Best rogue subclass?
Gavin Rogers
Check out how shitty the bigger d&d fan groups are on fb
Kevin Flores
Inquisitive
Alexander Murphy
>w-what do you mean people have been supporting this hobby for decades and now disinterested shills who want to water it down, simplify it, and alienate the original audience are infiltrating it? >t-this didnt happen with comicbooks and vidya! >it's all a neckbeard conspiracy! Lmao ur all crazy! Fuck off and go shitpost on a Critical Role thread.
Xavier Cook
Forever DM- I came very close to being able to play once, and would have been a War Cleric. The idea was to be a melee combat focused Shield Master, shoving people around. (Didn't happen. Never will.)
Robert Gutierrez
how do I stop the normiefag dudebro new player from killing my character without sucking his dick this faggot is treating the campaign like an elder scrolls game
Joshua Gonzalez
Kick Him Out
Grayson Lopez
I know exactly how shitty they are. "OMG I am soooo happy we are getting more genderfluid support! How do I make my table more inclusive? Is playing Drow problematic because of blackface?" They clearly do not care about the hobby and are here to just coopt it and drain it of all joy just like with everything else. Absolute fucking scourge.