ITT: Books about fucking.
Trying to figure to out whether sex is worth caring about, as it generally leaves me confused and dissatisfied after the fact. Wanna read people (mostly men) who exalt sex as well as people who were disgusted or disinterested by it, preferably secular.
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Sex for the sex itself, i.e. sex as an act sucks and is alienating no matter how you slice it.
Those who partake in it as activity are using it to dull themselves much like with alcoholism or drug addiction.
Sex as an act doesn't suck, neither do drugs as an act. Their implications might but the act is pretty great.
You're probably screwing someone who doesn't actually mean anything to you.
That, or you have a testosterone deficiency.
>hear from every man, tv show, movie, song, etc. that there is literally nothing better than having sex with a bunch of women and being sexually desirable
>got over my social cowardice, got fit, got good at fucking, and had sex with a bunch of women
>was kinda fun, and other guys thought I was cool now
>realize my main drive was other people's admiration
>wonder how true that is for other men
I also want literature. I've literally had more fulfilling sexual experiences masturbating, but that's not as upheld as having even a mediocre encounter with a woman.
Unbarable Lightness of Being by Milan Kundera. It's pretty shit, but essential slut literature.
De Sade?
He certainly painted sex as some sort of rebellion against the world (especially the type of sex he described... like even fucking your relatives was a middle finger to God or some shit). He was secular too. Very.
I suggest Juliette. It is a sometimes frustrating read. The flow of the story is often broken by pages of monologues of pretencious edgyness. But the sex scenes are interesting and sometimes nauseating.
You don't get it.
HENRY MILLER
Good point you made there, friendo.
wow. another /mu/ post.
what a surprise.
Sex is better with somebody you love. This is not a new, groundbreaking idea, but conventional wisdom which can be found in a variety of literature.
Look at why Odysseus chooses to leave behind immortality and sex with goddess Calypso in the Odyssey.
wow, another shitpost that has nothing to do with literature
what a surprise
What about "Last Night" by James Salter? Although it's at a later point in life
are you the femanon i met at the libarary?
i was asking about anais nin.
just read bukowski senpai
This is a good book about casual, everyday sex
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Kafka Zurau aphorisms talks about disinterest or disgust in a secular context sorta
Dennis Cooper, The Sluts.
why do you need books about it when you can just talk it out here?
Sex is like tapping into the fountain of youth.
You'll never reexperience the joy of ice cream on a sunny day after a farm-league baseball game, but you can mimic it by busting a nut inside an eighteen year-old virgin.
You'll never feel the way you did falling asleep to your mom giving your a back scratch, but cumming in the eyes of a Negress is damn close.
You'll never scrape together nickels and dimes to go to the local store and buy the latest comic book, but you can stick your fist into your great aunt's anus.
Sex is living for the second time. On a side note, I just visualized anal-fisting my great aunt in a public coffeeshop.
It is more the human desire to be desired. Having a sexual encounter with a woman implies that said woman holds you in such high esteem that she is willing to participate in what is cultural deems as the most intimate acts two people can have.
It is the same reason you may feel a pang of envy when you see someone who seems to have more friends than you, because they are much more "desirable" and you desire that.
In the end, I found that quality beats quantity in this sense, and it's better to have few and meaningful sexual encounters than a multitude of meaningless ones.
>he's a hedonist
Tell me more.
Maybe this is why I don't really care about having sex.
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Before you, I never thought I'd see her mentionned here. I thank you.
Tropic of cancer and Tropic of capricorn arent exactly about fucking but there's a lot of fucking
My diary desu
I've fucked all the hottest pageant girls, all the most desirable porn stars, yet all I really want is an old lady to browse Antique Shops with. I miss you Grandma ;_;
Drugs are way better than sex.
This
I miss my Nan too, bro
>Singular Pleasures by Harry Mathews
>describes 61 different scenes, each told in a different style (generally poetic, elaborate, or circumlocutory) in which 61 different people (all of different ages, nationalities, and walks of life) masturbate.
I'm not sure they feel the same
Does the same go for masturbation?
What's with all the people ITT: that are talking shit about sex?
I'm a virgin and my literal lifegoal is to get bareback pussy (no fucking condoms don't count)
I'm dropping massive pounds, putting on muscle, in 4 months I aim to be buff, I'm wearing great clothes, have a the memecut (undercut), and am reading all kinds of shit to sharpen my social skills
Basically I'm this guy before he got laid
And yet ITT: all these people are like "it doesn't matter lol"
Also damn this is not what I expected coming to Veeky Forums, all I wanted was a free pdf of A Billion Wicked Thoughts (a book about the neuroscience of female sexual attraction)
Again, more reading to try to learn how its done
i came to this
>reading to try to learn how its done
I think you're taking the wrong route there pal
When I say reading I mean how to get girls to want to have sex with me
The most virgin post I've ever read.
well no shit its in the 2nd sentence
Dude, you are trippin me out tbqh
I mean you didn't need to explicitly state it for it to have been communicated anyway.
>I'm a virgin and my literal lifegoal is to get bareback pussy
Your life will suck even more after you have sex and realizing it fixes none of your problems
Houellebecq works with both ends of the spectrum in his novels, it might be what you're looking for.
>he's not a hedonist and dishonest with himself
>it's better to have few and meaningful sexual encounters than a multitude of meaningless ones.
This
>Your life will suck even more after you have sex and realizing it fixes none of your problems
Let him be, he has to experience that realization for himself
wait until he learns that all the years of desperate sluttiness afterwards were part of a pattern in a futile attempt to recreate his imagined ideal that his first time will ultimately fail to live up to
Roger Scruton- Sexual Desire
None of you are making any sense
Plato's Symposium is the obvious answer
>preferably secular.
There's your problem right there, buddy.
Gravity's Rainbow.
Zorba the Greek
>22
>Already had around forty partners
>Dropped out of high school, returning to college in order to find passion in life.
>More stoked about the study of humanities than I am about the prospect of getting laid
>Regard women as individuals to be held by individual standards
>Never been more disappointed by my fellow humans in my life
>On the upside, independently happy and developing intelligence
>Need stims in order to continue with this path
Seriously, sex is so goddamn overrated unless you're a filthy rich Chad that never needs to worry about bills, car payments, debt, and "real-world" problems. I just hope my pursuit for higher education leads me to find a chick that is down to earth but highly focused and sexy.
>22
>Already had around forty partners
REEEEEEEEEEE
Sex is also a lot better if you're in good shape. Just saying...
>Never been more disappointed by my fellow humans in my life
Dang. Opposite happened to me. Once I stopped being around women for the pussy, I could actually talk to them as just people, and a lot of them were way more interesting than I'd believed up to that point. They were also surprised I wasn't just trying to manipulate them into sex, which made me feel kinda shitty, but it is what it is.
You're making sex into all of this. For me it's 10 minutes of exhilaration and then an hour of essentially waiting to masturbate. It doesn't feel that great, and once the initial blast of hormones wears off it may as well be exercise with the added pressure of losing a relationship if you can't find some way to enjoy it or at least appear that way.
All in all, 5/10 there's worse ways to spend your time.
Women by Bukowski
Jesus you need to either dump your girlfriend or go monk and de-porn your brain
Live the dream user.
Samefag
>added pressure of losing a relationship if you can't find some way to enjoy it or at least appear that way.
There's something especially frustrating about having to pretend like sex is always incredible as a man, when its usually just kinda cool, like a decent song and not a full blown symphony.
Exercising and going monk do help to some extent, but it's an awful lot of effort for something so overrated.
I try to just think about it as a couple's activity like date night or going to the movies.
Sex usually comes by itself if you're a sociable person, and if it doesn't come for you then making it into something big will be horrible for your ego. The obvious conclusion is to not treat it as something big.
Moreover, sexual desire is regulated by hormones. Every man feels it regularly - wanting sex - and that never goes away. It a trick of nature in the first place, like the feeling of hunger. Eating is satisfying but not spiritual. The difference for sex is that it's betweeb two people. So the human-human aspect is what counts. Sex apart feom that is just like makimg you not hungry again and that's why in this case men will report it's not special.
The third aspect is that women choose who gets to breed and thus getting sex becomes ego validation - a spook.
Just get good with people and let sex be part of your life as it comes.
Well put, m8.
Are you a woman, user? Don't bring me down; tell me you are.
for u bby i can be
What you're saying is correct but my spirit won't accept it. I often wish I could neuter myself but I think that if I did I would become even more isolated and very fat and I'd lose all my gains. If taking testosterone boosts gains, then from my cursory understanding of biology, removing the wellspring of testosterone would vitiate gains.
I even fap more often now that I work out.
not anyone that posted to you before, but to me sex CAN BE a spiritual connection, and cuddling afterwards is a high as well.
casual sex with no strings attached is the same as fapping, except you worry that you donn't get an std or worse
WHAT DID I JUST READ?
Sex is a nosense my friend, our reproduction drive and our intellect fused, comes out just as any other drug, as any other "mind killer", making everyone way too distracted, wasting their intellect thinking in the other sex, unable to controll the desire of reproduction, having to look for the other sex in order to feel complete, sex just goes by the hand of love and both of them are theorically the same, isn't interesting that love is more common in women and sex in men? Sex and love are nothing but reproduction
I've never had sex.
This confirms my suspicion that lit is a bunch of lowlifes and alcoholics. Sex is wonderful, even sex for sex. If you've ever had sex with a complete stranger that was beautiful, your whole day, your whole demeanor for days, changes positively. If you just immediately go at it and pound the pussy to try to get off, yeah, it's like shitty masturbation. But if you build it up and have fun and treat it like a really long, drawn-out, good meal, it is amazing. And I'm just talking about fucking strangers at this point. Having great sex with someone you love is also amazing.
Not user, but you don't. Read Angela Carter's book on the Marquis.
Ulysses.
If you plan to read books about sex to see if "it's worth it" , then please do not have any sex. You are not worth carrying on. People are not likely to sleep with someone who would think this way.
Choke, Palahniuk.
Henry Miller
DH Lawrence's pamphlet on pornography (which is in fact largely about love and sex) is very good, and short obviously.
>people actually believe the sex makes you a better person meme
I kinda get why people praise sex so much, while a lot of people here find it overrated. Sex is a human universal. A wast majority of people through history enjoyed sex. Not everyone is smart sensitive and educated enough to enjoy great works of art or philosophy or whatever you eggheads like. Not everyone has health or physical fitness to enjoy the height of an athletic competition. Most people can fuck.
>implying when it happens it wont be choral music tier
>these people trying to imply that sex on a purely physical level is the same as jerking off
Get the fuck out, your so full of shit
Sex is gonna make fapping look like sticking your dick into a pile of sand, rocks, and glass
Its gonna be the best thing in existence
>Sex for the sex itself, i.e. sex as an act sucks and is alienating no matter how you slice it.
Goddammit, why don't you /r9k/ fags just fucking LEAVE!
>chads on suicide watch
>Sex for the sex itself, i.e. sex as an act sucks and is alienating no matter how you slice it.
your so full of shit
dude /r9k/ adores sex and has shitloads of mental pain over not having it
I can't be a chad if I'm a virgin friendo.
> not posting innuendo cover
No, because after you've blown your load and sober up, you realize that she will never see the world as you see it because she is intellectually inferior. She will buy you Gregorian techno-beat chants and vanilla flavoured green tea for your birthdays because she won't understand the difference between a cheap mainstream copy and the real thing.
Study the Bible, then some Aquinas, Teresa de Jesus and other religious writers. When you've seen the light,you'll stop worrying about carnal pleasures and become a monk
Not him but yes. Sex without love is basically using an individual as a masturbartory device to fullfill your narcissism.
I get it differently from you that's all. Don't make a problem here please.
Why do I need to read someone elses opinion on someone? Why can't I form my own opinion? You shouldn't let others spoon feed you what to think.
Just had some the other day. I'm 20.
Maybe if you weren't such a tryhard faggot you would get some as well lmao
what are you waiting for opie?
>you can't compound knowledge and understanding from different types of sources
>you shouldn't read about sunjects you find confusing and interesting
That's you.
That makes sense. Same reason everyone praises food and sleeping.
Who gives a shit about her mind? Your getting pussy, that's what matters.
Damn you guys are completely downplaying the glory of pussy on its own.
Same goes to you
>not becoming passionless towards material phenomena and transcending suffering
Sex is for plebs desu.
It's easier to let it flow and just be an animal, but unlike we, at least animals have no intellect, and do it merely for reproduction and surviving.