Hey so my sister and I got into an argument about feminism. Which in the end, I admitted I didn't know that much about

Hey so my sister and I got into an argument about feminism. Which in the end, I admitted I didn't know that much about.

Any good starter feminist literature that's a staple in Veeky Forums? Thanks.

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archive.org/details/barofisisorlawof00swin
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_philosophy
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_theory
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gender trouble is ok but it relies heavily on foucault

Thanks, checking it out

are you talking books with feminist themes or books on feminist theory?

>girlsinventedpunkrocknotkurtcobain

Huh?

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this is what you must know

what are contraceptives for men apart from condoms? obviously contraception is a lot more important for women

WE WUZ

>>/arcanine/

PUNKZ

Not when you take into account the fact that a man will pay to raise the child if the woman so much as hints that it's his.

feminism is cancer

>>/b/

Grown ups are talking now :).

All identity politics is cancer.

Punk comes from the Spanish for where, so I feel you're working against yourself here

what does that have to do with contraception? if you don't use protection, it likely IS yours. cant you just get a dna test?

SHIIIIET

>anyone i don't like is a /b/tard

please, reinforce the fact that feminism is cancer more

>a guy saying meanie words to me online is the reason why a movement is bad

You're as triggered as the legbeards

there are plenty of reasons it's a shit movement
>maybe if i say legbeards it'll hide my samefagging

Not if you're french.

I can guarantee that you hate feminism because of what you've seen online but you've never actually interacted with a female other then family.

Lol, so sad

>being this buttblasted

i am female, user. try to avoid the "anti-feminists are just loser neckbeards" arguement in the future

and yes, i've seen many self-proclaimed feminists irl through school and old friends. it is absolute cancer

From a moral standpoint it's a responsibility of equal scale

Hhahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahaa

Read about intersectionality. Know your enemy.

literally all of feminism's 'achievements' could be undone overnight if men willed it
the history of feminism may as well be the history of men giving women shit so they'd shut the fuck up

sorry for the callousness of this post lads I just broke up with my (ex)gf and she sent me a nasty message today

gb2b

Thanks.

Read Stirner and Nietzsche.

Yeah, give him more outdated, bias male trite. Typical Veeky Forums.

lmao shut up landwhale

You think feminism isn't outdated male trite? It's repackaged protestantism, which is repackaged catholicism, which was repackaged neoplatonism to begin with. Women are completely irrelevant to the development of feminist ideas.

Trite is an adjective, my dude.

Lol.

might deploy this one irl

Enjoy not being able to back it up with any real evidence when they ask you to go further in depth.

>bias male trite
FYI: "bias" is a noun, and "trite" is an adjective. A certain minimal level of literacy is expected on Veeky Forums, and your post did not pass muster.

>pass muster
Pa's mustard you damn squid

the damage will have already been done

>girls invented punk rock not kurt cobain

Is this a joke? Is she being ironic?

>literally all of feminism's 'achievements' could be undone overnight if men willed it
women do not take risks, nor make effort, since they get men to take risks for and make effort them.
and men are happy to take risks, to make effort for women (men think that they are valuable, if they manage to win something, once they are in a situation that they believe is risky or requires effort).
in fact, men even feel sad and depressed when they do not get noticed by women.

Kollontai (pic related) was responsible for the institution of the International Working Women's Day and the only female leader after the Soviet Revolution.
"Kollontai believed that, like the state, the family unit would wither away once the second stage of communism became a reality. She viewed marriage and traditional families as legacies of the oppressive, property-rights-based, egoist past. Under Communism, both men and women would work for, and be supported by, society, not their families. Similarly, their children would be wards of, and reared basically by society."
That's a feminist, the rest is garbage

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It was unknown to me that wales of the land dwelt here.

All forms of politics and all ideologiea are cancer.

Kek'd, fair enough you won it for me.

Yeah whoever you're talking to will have realized that you're retarded enough to parrot shit you read on Veeky Forums to people in real life. Generally speaking, any information you see on Veeky Forums is bad advice. Well informed people with reasonable perspectives do not post here.

>identifies as Black
What they're saying is if you're a mixed race person but you see yourself as Black check that box. It isn't for transracial otherkin or whatever you saw on reddit

who /#redpillarmy/ here

>it's a bourgeoisie egalitarian cucks try to argue against feminism episode

idk man just ask if her why aren't women fighting to become plumbers and grass cutters. instead of the comfy jobs that everybody else including men can't get

equal pay shit is misleading. All the girls at my college make way more money then me part-time because they can get jobs being a babysitter or a secretary. I'm stuck working retail and sometimes construction to help myself.

but idk I feel like feminist is just some phase that's dying out by 2017 nobody will care again

>Why isn't your sex fighting to become plumbers?
>What?

That would be a productive convo, thanks for the rec

Frances Swiney was pretty redpilled check out some of her work

>Frances Swiney, a prominent Edwardian suffragist and Theosophist, used both scientific/eugenic ideas and spiritualism to argue that women represented a higher stage of evolutionary development than men and that women therefore should assume positions of greater prominence in British society. Although eugenics lent scientific authority to feminism, its emphasis on physical reproduction also meant that women were increasingly defined in terms of their childbearing potential and that anything which interfered with motherhood, such as careers, was a threat to civilization. Swiney proved instrumental in circumventing the eugenic dilemma and its seeming biological imperative by redefining eugenics as a moral and spiritual enterprise in which women could modify evolution through force of will. In particular, Swiney drew upon Theosophical spiritualism to argue that human evolution would reach its highest phase in the feminization of the species. Frances Swiney's work helps complexify the Victorian women's movement and remains important to that feminist paradigm which has sought to define women in terms other than biological.

"The bar of Isis : or the law of the mother" is on archive.org:
archive.org/details/barofisisorlawof00swin

and that in itself is collectivist garbage

this desu

Do you know about how good transgendering your dick off is? you can't disagree with it until you read about the facts first and let all transgenders have your money.

Why would somebody fight to do something shit? Also it is illegal to discriminate against men as well as women for jobs.

Oh and finally, please do tell me about how you so badly want to be secretary.

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what is the picture even supposed to mean?

also who the fuck thinks kurt cobain "invented punk rock"?

this man is correct.

if you really want to then start with simone de beauvoir.

though to be honest i'd much rather read someone less feminist and more interesting like margaret mead.

BOY I SURE WISH I COULD GET A FREE ABORTION

oh wait, i can't have babies.. i'm a man

>openly discriminated sexually by famous airlines for sitting enxt to a minor in unfounded fear of sexual assault

what the FUCK does this even mean

fucking MRAs these days, man

It's pretty clear in what it's saying.

>i am female, user

yeah.. right

embarrassing

>You think feminism isn't outdated male trite? It's repackaged protestantism, which is repackaged catholicism, which was repackaged neoplatonism to begin with. Women are completely irrelevant to the development of feminist ideas.

lmao

shut up virgin

how much of a sour beta loser do you actually have to be to identify with this image?

>All the girls at my college make way more money then me part-time because they can get jobs being a babysitter or a secretary.

just kill yourself you shitstain

>guys can't be babysitters or secretaries

how many applications did you send out? be honest

>mfw not a feminist
>mfw definitely not a virgin

>I admitted I didn't know that much about.

It's ok she probably doesn't either.

feminists fucked up Star Wars, Mad Max and True Detective
they should be in forced labor camps

>watching TV and movies

What did you expect?

This isn't a great place to ask, most people have are either explicitly sexist, or unconsciously biased.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_philosophy

Start with the majors thinkers, read their works or their bios and build on it from there.

This gives a basic overview, if an idea of thinker interests you, pursue it.


en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_theory

Oh boo hoo hoo. Only women get free contraceptives. How will men ever benefit from that? Besides, you can usually pick up free condoms from somewhere in a hospital.

The rest seems to be complaining that men can't force women to have abortions. Jesus Christ.

>All these posts conflating feminism and post-structural theory.

feminism is just women complaining online
it's like their version of /r9k/

Why should I listen to you then?

Feminism would be laughably absurd farce if it wasn't taken seriously. As it is, it's just terrifying.

It's 100% projection. For example, the woman in this image is acting "entitled" to participate in a technical subculture when her idiot gender contributed approximately nothing to it, and she's demanding this completely male subculture invented and sustained by males cater to her, while calling them "entitled" for enjoying the fruits of their efforts.

Liberals tend to assume that life imitates art/ideology, which is the reverse of science and sanity. Things are associated with males because males do them and have always done them, not the reverse.

>expecting something out of the new star wars movie
>"mad" "max"
>actually watching television

why the fuck do i have to share a board with lowlifes like this?

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I am a virgin NEET ascetic currently at stage IV of the Norwood Scale and an addict to hardcore pornography for the best part of ten years, and what I've noticed in my reading of hundreds of blog posts, reddit comments and message board discussions between women or at least frequented by women is that "slutty" women, aka women who are perceived to be very sexual and whose characters are associated with sex and eroticism tend to be relatively predictable and unadventurous in terms of open-mindedness when it comes to having sex and personal preferences associated with the act itself, largely, in my opinion, because their characters and perspectives are overwhelmingly the result of a culture which promotes the sexual experience while continuing to shame and ostrichsize those who may be perceived as "weird" or "obsessed" about something that is not conspicuously advertised as something one is allowed to be obsessed with, while those girls considered "shy" or "studious" etc tend to be extremely perverted, in terms of their appreciation of unconventional sexual acts, I mean I myself have viewed hundreds of amateur of videos wherein the female protagonists resembled the kind of girls that I mistakenly perhaps in retrospect identified as naive, innocent, childlike in their desire merely for romantic affection and so on during my four years in college (during which time I attracted but failed to ask out a single one of these girls, for reasons my psychologist and I have spent the past 1.5 years attempting to work out) but who were actually likely to be the exact kind of girls who enjoyed things like golden showers, analingus (given), "rape-play", daddy roleplay, choking, spitting, hitting, spanking and roleplay in which she was the "unwitting" victim and / or captor of a malevolent, aggressive, callous male using her body for to appease his sadistic ambitions.

watch dumb little youtube videos.
Bearing, Shoe0nhead, Armored Skeptic, etc. They lay it out pretty clearly. Feminism is not worth reading about.

good for you stale pasta man, good for you..

Fuck off back to /pol/ with your shitty infographics.
Then kill yourself.

> hurr durr people talking about categories of which I am not a member is bad

>do tell me about how you so badly want to be secretary.

10x Comfier than being a night guard at the mall and better pay too. I'd take any day over my current job.

Half of them aren't even fucking true. For all their talk of how feminists are logical, most MRAs can't even begin to evaluate a claim critically. Some of this shit is blatantly self-contradictory

> It's expected that women don't play sports or go to the gym
> All you have to do is be good looking

To be honest, that list doesn't read like it was a written by a mere anti-feminist. The author seems to be a full-blown woman hater. Pathetic.

he's right though, divisive shit like that is diverting a lot of resources away from poverty alleviation and space travel

ITT: litizens attempt psychology.

>men can't force women to have abortions

It's actually saying that women can force men to provide children, while being able to choose whether or not to provide or care for children themselves. In the interest of equality, men should be allowed, within the amount of time a woman has to get an abortion, to decide whether or not they want to support the unborn child. This way the woman can choose whether or not to get an abortion based on the support of the father and/or her own financial situation, not with the support of the father as a given.

(•╬•) nobody cared who i was until i put on the mask

pls kill self

White People Lack Empathy

Agreed. Which is sad

This thread is proof that feminism is a pretty bad time for everybody involved.

Can't we all just be in support for true equality?

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