How can we make Veeky Forums great again, my fellow posters? Some suggestions:
>a lenghty guide to translations, from homer to dostoevsky >update the wiki or change the wiki >fewer dfw, pynchon, bolaño or whatever meme author threads >more non-anglophone literature discussion >ban "i started this book today, what do you think of it Veeky Forums" posters >ban frogposters >ban butterfly
I think we should start a curriculum that isn't necessarily to be followed in a fixed amount of time or fixed chronology of texts, but instead groups of texts that consist of novels, poetry, essays, theory, philosophy and nonfiction, etc... that come from all backgrounds to provide for a wider read lit. It would take a group effort to design and perfect but i'm willing to try
Brandon Ramirez
and of course in turn each "group" that is created could be made into individual posts for years to come for discussion. Does this make sense?
Elijah Bailey
Am I meme now? I'm not going to drop the name just because of a few shitposters.
Lucas Scott
>>fewer dfw, pynchon, bolaño or whatever meme author threads
Who is suppose to decide who qualifies as a meme author? I acutally really like Pynchon in a non-memeing way and ctrl f says Pynchon your's is 1 of 2 mentions of him in the catalog.
It is mostly just blatantly off topic threads and "I'm new here" threads that are killing this place.
>>ban "i started this book today, what do you think of it Veeky Forums" posters >>ban frogposters >>ban butterfly
Agreed.
Jason Sanchez
The wiki does what you've said, but the layout, the navigation and the lack of visual content is really bad. It would be cool if some webdesigner made a totally new site with the wiki's info plus some translations guide.
Jaxon Martinez
you are like a little baby
Lincoln Jones
I don't know about discussion but I know we need 100% less John Green and "feminism starter lit" threads.
Mason Nelson
we need a questionarre system to make sure you've actually read/compelted the books you are talking about
99.99% of gravity's rainbow discussion is by people with no idea what the book is
Luis Roberts
I agree with this nigga. I love Bolaño, Pynchon, and DFW. They're legitimately good.
Austin Cooper
it will be necessary to get the religious vote through choice of vp, along with geographic diversity (ie someone not from the northeast), along with the bookish, thinking man's bigot. Clearlly the vp choice is clear, at least from the bright light of day that is Veeky Forums, and that choice is orson scott card >spoiler image over there >TRUMP CARD
Joseph Rogers
S U C C U C C
Nicholas Brooks
Yea I agree I'm looking for a more coherently groouped set of texts that are unified thematically in some way. For example having like hume, Rousseau, aristotle, some Dostoevsky, some mccarthy in one group made and titles by me. But another person can make another group that doesnt have to exclude the texts I picked just another theme. Like a russian lit theme with dosto, gogol, tolstoy, bely, etc... Im not sure how this can be done but im open to suggestions
Austin Reyes
What a brilliant idea, /pol/.
Henry Hall
IF YOU BAN ONE BUTTERFLY YOU BAN US ALL!
Jace Cox
good
Michael Parker
please stop impersonating me, you small minded buffoon.
Angel Myers
See, folks, that's why we need the swarm banned.
Luke Harris
haha well meme'd old bean!
Nathan Diaz
This guy
Lincoln Murphy
It's alright, was ironic (3ish), and was accidentally leaving it on, which I've fixed now
Carson Hall
>likes Dostoevsky oops it appears you found yourself on the wrong site friend let me help you get to the correct one i think it was read it? red it? le ditt? hmm...
Jonathan Anderson
You don't need to have a conversation on the internet about your books. There are mountains of essays and criticism, book clubs even (Goodreads even?).
But we desire to pretend we are pursuing loftier goals when we are not. This board caters to this desire. It will never be good. Literature will always be over there, never quite here, talk as we might.
by saying this I'm not just self-consciously shitposting, right?
Parker Jenkins
You dropped this "« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ »" *hands it to you* "There you go!"
Nicholas Hall
>implying reading essays and criticism is a conversation a dialogue is not a conversation m8
Logan Ramirez
>implying /pol/ would ever recommend more non-anglo lit
Am I being baited?
Hunter Gutierrez
Less tryharding will fix it over night.
Ayden Nelson
don't you have some underage girls to be stalking, vladimir?
Cooper Morales
wow what's it like to be retarded?
Ryan Mitchell
nice digits
Jose Sanchez
I would greatly value a translation guide for beginners such as myself and the first one up, I think, should be Homer. I've spent quite a bit of time trying to decide which translation to pick for my first reading of the Iliad and, while I'm happy with my choice, I feel like I would have benefited from a more structured guide instead of scanning various threads, reviews, blog posts and wiki pages.
Then I, for one, would love to see translation guides for the Bible, Ovid, Dante (there is already a great chart, perhaps it could serve as model), Dostoyevsky/Tolstoy, Proust and Bulgakov. And that's just for starters.
Ryan Bailey
>ban "I started this book today, what do you think f it Veeky Forums" posters
What the hell is wrong with those posts? To BAN those people, who are following all guidelines of Veeky Forums in that they are seeking to discuss literature, is CRAZY. Same with the whole "less meme authors" thing. The whole point of Veeky Forums is that it's an anonymous free place where an entire literary culture can exist and grow and morph. It will inevitably naturally continue to morph. Stop trying to implement your fascist views on the only truly free place on the internet.
Nathaniel Evans
Making more detailed guides isn't going to help. We have a chart for Greek literature but still get threads asking about it daily(do I have to read it in this order? I know this translation is recommended but can I read this instead? Can I skip this book?). The only way to get rid of them is to not reply. Same with any other kind of thread you don't like. Make good threads and post on good threads.
David Hall
Trying.
Elijah Reyes
imblingg
Kevin Garcia
>ban "i started this book today, what do you think of it Veeky Forums" posters
Literally the only posts trying to discuss literature.
Ayden Wood
I think he means less threads about pictures/ memes of these people and more threads about their work.
Justin Taylor
Since when is Dostoyevsky Reddit? He's a good author though admittedly, not the hardest to understand.
Andrew Ross
>>a lenghty guide to translations, from homer to dostoevsky I would greatly appreciate this. It's one of the main questions I always ask on Veeky Forums
Alexander Adams
Ban Trump supporters.
For the record and before I am accused of feeling the Bern or voting for Hillary I would like to say that all the main candidates are absolute garbage, but Trump cultists are annoying stupid.
Easton Lee
Embrace William Gaddis, William Gass, and John Hawkes as the new gods, and only allow discussion explicitly related to literature.
Bentley Martin
>people don't even know my tripcode
well at least that much is still sacred
Noah Barnes
>reading translations
Liam Thompson
We should have generals like /tv/. I know WE asready have /scifi/ or whatever the name is for SF and fantasy, but many topic are too recurrent, they would benefit from having their own generals. Plus they help contain the memes, if you too go on /tv/ you can notice there are barely any GoT meme outside /got/.
Dylan Wright
Ban book haul gais/recent purchase threads Ban omg booktubers/reddit/etc sux threads
Jonathan Thomas
- generals - recommendation threads, so people read outside the canon - bookclub kind of thing for actual discussion (like the IJ read along, but standardised) - ban all those things you said, but only ban the non-serious threads about the meme authors. Or just make a /pynchon/, /dfw/, etc so that they don't flood the board - what are you reading? thread, so that there isn't a new thread for every person that wants to talk about the book he's reading.
Brandon Martin
that's not the tripcode
Brandon Roberts
>a lenghty guide to translations, from homer to dostoevsky This is a good idea. A quality translation can make the difference between hating or loving a text.
>update the wiki or change the wiki Another good idea, but if you want the wiki updated, get working. That's kind of the whole point of wikis.
>fewer dfw, pynchon, bolaño or whatever meme author threads Meh. Kind of stupid to prevent people from discussing literature they like on a literature discussion board. Those authors became memes for good reasons.
>more non-anglophone literature discussion We already have plenty of this, I don't know what you're talking about.
>ban "i started this book today, what do you think of it Veeky Forums" posters Again, you're banning people discussing literature on a literature board. Most people aren't doing it to show off what they read, they're doing it to incite a conversation/
>ban frogposters Yes.
>ban butterfly Too many impersonators to do this. Plus, why ban someone just because you disagree with them? Bad idea.
Xavier Anderson
it's jews
Brody Phillips
jews
Samuel Hughes
>Christian author >Reddit Lol wut?
William Bailey
CLARIFICATION: Veeky Forums shouldn't be about reading books for the sake of reading them. There should be focus on originality. It sounds naive, but with such a large backlog just to make a dent in the humanities, we must not forget to make new conclusions through each reading. Else we're just caricatures of authors.
Joseph Roberts
wtf
Luis Davis
>>fewer dfw, pynchon, bolaño or whatever meme author threads
Asher Gomez
>ban butterfly finally someone who talks sense
Carter Cruz
>ban butterfly
she is core Veeky Forums culture though
Alexander Long
Goodreads integration
Hunter Robinson
Nah, let people finish books before they try to talk about them, and allow for people to form their own opinions on stuff they're reading.
poop ass tits sass try and see if you can pass gass
Landon Walker
Ban fucking anime threads.
What the fuck is happening here?
Why is this shit popping up all of a sudden?
Ian Sanchez
poop ass tits sass try and see if you can pass gass
Daniel Gomez
*it was a hologram*
Carson Thompson
STOP ACTING LIKE ME, THIS ISNT FUNNY
Levi Watson
No discussion past "its good" or "its bad" and a bundle of shitposting can occur in these threads. The OP has probably read 20 - 35 pages and 1)cant contribute to the thread directly And 2)is likely to have the book spoiled for him the longer he is active within the thread. And honestly if everybody who started a book stopped to ask Veeky Forums what they thought, there would be no room for anything else in the catalog.