Why can't America produce good philosophy?

why can't America produce good philosophy?

>that image
Wew

Too buzy making money I guess. Not even american.

found the continental :)

go back to your mystical and criptolanguage babble

>strawberry frappucino
That kid has good taste

And he'll end up as fat as his parents.

but user, strawberries are actually really healthy

Willard Van Orman Quine was the most influential philosopher of his century. He was born in Ohio you little eurobitch.

we are all philistines. being clever in america means you've found a way to cash in on some yet untapped business. my dads highest aspiration for me is to start a chain of movie themed restaurants or develop some mobile app game or become internet famous, as long as I make millions. these people raised me.

keep telling yourself that while stuffing so many of them into your mouth that you acquire forehead fat

still waiting on the great Psychoanalytic Pragmatism

Falling further into the abyss after missing the bait.

Quite honestly, however, America has produced the greatest literature of all time.

true, twilight is the best of all time how can yuros compete?

What's "good philosophy"?

Theoretically good, or that gives one success in life?

See also, e.g., Peirce, James, Dewey. Chisholm, Kripke, Lewis, Sellars, Davidson, Rawls, Nozick.

Perhaps the country that produced the most good philosophy in the 20th century was the U.S., due to its dominance in higher education. It's not even close if we count non-Americans who spent most of their careers in the US (Godel, Tarski, Carnap, etc.). This seems to being continuing this century.

before 1950 America was insignificant in the literary scene. Just because you have been able to compete the last 50 or so years doesn't mean you are i power player in the grand scheme

language.
English is fucking useless for philosophy.
German is god tier.
French is kill it with fire.

of all time!

obviously, the real philosophy, the useless one. if its 'useful' is not philosophy.

pffhahahahahahahahaha
okay, okay kid.
>taking b8
im hungry.

If it's "useless" then how is it "good"?

Unless the goal of real philosophy is uselessness.

how the fuck did you get to this?
>the GOAL of philosophy is uselessness

are you retarded?

or am I being b8d again. this board I swear, this fucking board...

Stop with your intellectualness.

ok Im being b8d for sure.
hi, Im fish. this tastes good, do you have more?

sure. ask away.

will do

thanks

lol, tell me about some good philosophy written in German in the last 50 years.

It was written by an American who had German as a second language.

>influential
Influential does not mean good

John Green is an influential writer (new writers, film adaptations, social nonsense, etc.)

>in the last 50 years
why tho.
do you believe in the 'progress' of Humanity?

What was?

And anyways, what? Is the idea that they think their philosophy in German, then write it in English, and that's why it's good? Or that learning German somehow magically gives them philosopower? That's retarded.

The only beliefs lie in hopes.

Philosophy is more objective than literature though. Influential philosophers are generally those that have the best arguments.

lmao, Nietzsche said the exact opposite, he thought German was a dogshit language for philosophy.

He also thought that philosophy that obsesses itself with the nature of truth was overrated and thought that the Romans, who didn't spend as much time worrying about such abstract things as the Greeks, were a better civilization for it.

It was by this guy I knew, I forget his name. And, it was specifically asked for something written in German. If you're now not sure why that matters, then further dialogue is useless because you're regressing and I may have to let you go before you annoy me too much.

There are no objects in philosophy. Only incestuous thoughts.

Thoughts are not objects, theoretically.

>taking Nietzsche literally

I mean incestuous by thoughts relating to thoughts, thinking unto itself.

I didn't mean actual sex topic.

>Philosophy is more objective
lol

Okay, keep your secret good philosophy in German by a guy you knew whose name you forgot to yourself.

Pretty much all good recent and contemporary philosophy is written in English, much of it by native English speakers. Not that I think English is better for doing philosophy than other languages, just that it's not worse than other languages for doing philosophy. And at the moment it happens to be an academic lingua franca.

There are higher levels of literature and elites that are not shared with the masses.

luminarty

There are different sects that choose not to associate with them. "Eye" is more about stupid celebrity and direct contact with the masses to dumb them down. The literary elites prefer to live in their ivory towers in isolation and look down at, but also forget about you.

My graphene stem tower is taller you little word bitch.

Your lack of effort renders my disbelief.

How many Chinese kids had to die for them to take that picture?

Who is Ralph Waldo Emerson?

Judith Butler is a great philosopher.

"Veeky Forums circumscribes a systemic, self-sustaining inter-reaction between diverse bodies and minds who, stripped of their ontic qualities, engage in a metadiscourse based on conceptual absurdity and culturally-transmitted, discrete units of information that take on the latent qualities of those through whom it is transmitted."

what a fancy way to tell us that we are meme loving fucks

She definitely said this.

I wonder what Camille Paglia thinks of Veeky Forums.

She gets it.

Autistic pseudomathematical mind games with 0 relevance to life, reality or anything for that matter. Euro/continental philosophy might be bullshite but at least it's interesting bullshit.

The answer to OP's question can be found in this thread: the United States were founded on ripping themselves out of history to start something new. They are a very young nation, and they think in short timeframes. The whole pursuit of happiness and shiet has led them to , which has granted them a) power and b) shit philosophy. If America were to reconnect its masses, and not just the people who study Liberal arts, with a history older than Columbus, it would probably give rise to better philosophers.

Fuck you continental philosophy is for homos

I'm guessing you've read 0 of these authors.

Also, bullshit is not interesting.

That image makes me fucking sad.
At least they look happy.

ITT: Retarded american crippled babies crying over their own intellectual incompetence as a nation.

>have most respected institutions in the world
>intellectual incompetence

Rawls and Nozick are so full of shit. Plus all the endless sperging out about bullshit made up concepts like Qualia possible worlds and zombies. At least Heidegger, for example, gives his philosophy a mystical/poetic flavor that goes beyond autistic thought experiments and pseudo-STEM try hard shit

>a mystical/poetic flavor
why is this good you silly fuck?
It sounds like you just want entertainment.

This post is making me sad. Go eat a burger, read a book, die unloved. Before the day ends, if you can.

Want to explain why you think Rawls and Nozick are full of shit?

Do you think there are other ways the world could have been? Do you think we can think or talk about some of these ways? That's all possible worlds are.

Do you think there's something it's like to see red? That's a quale.

good christ no

emerson was a philosopher like model train hobbyists are civil engineers

Learn english, cunt nigger faggot retarded son of a bitch baby fucker.

>the daughter's tired smug "lol, fuck my life" look

>Want to explain why you think Rawls and Nozick are full of shit?
hopelessly caught in bourgeoisie liberal framework

Qualia and wondering about 'possible worlds' being 'real' or not is the definition of autism. who the fuck cares? Analytical philosophy is not entirely bad but lots of it is extremely pointless

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>ITT: europeans buttmad that not everybody writes in word salad

What's wrong with trying to think seriously about consciousness and the nature of possibility and necessity? Philosophers have been doing it for hundreds of years. If you don't care, fine, but this isn't some new form of navel-gazing invented by analytic philosophers.

>hopelessly caught in bourgeoisie liberal framework
And this makes them full of shit because... ?
Marx or Nietzsche said so?
Were Locke, Rousseau, Kant, etc. also full of shit?
Is all philosophy that starts with assumptions you don't agree with full of shit? I doubt this is a good way to approach things.

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He's just angry that he's too stupid to read real philosophy and that he's stuck with pseudophilosophical gibberish.

read

quine is fucking awesome and highly respected in professional philosophy as a big swinging dick

Read You never hear of so called Continental """philosophers""" in any philosophy departments at a reputable university.
Pseuds out

Wew lad. Enjoy your unimportant life, fella. Watch the game with your buddies and eat some foreign food.

Continentals are unimportant, Analytics aren't.

Wow.

>Analytics are asking me to provide a logical argument for my views

t. Someone who's never studied philosophy at the academic level

I have, you're full of shit

Amazing. I might actually pray for you.

>thinking any philosophy is "important"

It boggles the mind to imagine a sincerely religious person coming on Veeky Forums everyday. Do you live off of butthurt like a dementor lives on misery, but your own butthurt, not that of other people.

>hurr durr how we think about those things we observed isn't important at all
Go back to making gizmos for your boss. Society will surely reward you richly for your dedication to pragmatism.

philosophy is useless

Chomsky I guess.

Continental Philosophers are definitely bullshit artists but they've had a tremendous impact in the real world and politics/society. ANALytics just wanna be real stem scientists soo hard but their whole racket is glorified circlejerking around thought experiments and mathy looking squiggles

This is just baffling.

What is the actual point of philosophy now? All philosophers do is have autistic arguments between themselves. The real progress is being made by scientists, engineers etc. No one gives a fuck about the useless unanswerable philosophical questions anymore and there is a reason for that

The book pictured in that post is a prime example of how philosophy interacts with the sciences in a very important way.

My logic professor at MIT was also on faculty in the aerospace department and his interest in logic followed off of his work as an engineer. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Yes, the reason is that mediocre bitches like you are so cucked by modern media that you're unable to comprehend that existence goes beyond a physical level. I genuinly feel sorry for all the mediocre lads that think this way.

Nigga the French loved the fuck out of Poe and that was the 19th century.

The real progress in technology, sure. But look at the state of politics in America, Brazil, &c.

Its because these dudes only have an undergraduate exposure to philosophy (aka history of philosophy). They don't even know what types of problems people are currently grappling with.

But Pragmatism is a tradition of philosophical thought.

It doesn't have the same meaning in that context.