So Allen Ginsberg was a paedophile...

So Allen Ginsberg was a paedophile? Apparently he was a member of NAMBLA and supported the rights of men to have relationships with young boys. That's pretty fucked up, he was always my least favourite Beat writer anyway. Opinions?

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are you a woman? if you are a man, why do you try to undermine your own rights to have sex with whoever you please? are you a cuck?

Dunno lol maybe

Are you the one that keeps making threads about him?

Read him, make up your own mind, then report back.

This is the first thread I have ever made on Veeky Forums, let alone on /lit.

I have read him, and I completed a thesis on the beat generation. I just didn't know he supported paedophilia.

there is literally nothing wrong with pedophilia

why don't you like his writing?

what did he say in support of pedophilia?

don't just send ignorant people like me on a google search user

Ginsberg was a supporter and member of North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA),[94] saying that "Attacks on NAMBLA stink of politics, witchhunting for profit, humorlessness, vanity, anger and ignorance ... I'm a member of NAMBLA because I love boys too– everybody does, who has a little humanity."[

So was Catullus. Poets are mostly sexual perverts of one sort or another, this is old news.

There are plenty of reasons to hate Ginsberg on his shit writing alone.

No wonder Michael Savage loved him so much.

the greeks too

Lots of jews are pedos, that and incest is kinda just what they do.

The Jew is truly a hideous blight upon humanity.

Which jew?

that's true for their whole race

'Sup kike. There is literally nothing wrong with pogroms.

All of them.
You know, I really think it's crazy how people aren't anti-semitic, it's one of the most obvious and normal stances one could possibly take.

Especially strange when it's "christians".

>wrong

By definition, Christians bought into Semitic mythology hook line and sinker.

Up until very very recently, anti-semitism was a major part of Christian practice and theology.

Loving a boy is not the same thing as loving a child.

Except Christians carry a Jewish holy book with them everywhere they go.

Wouldn't know any christians that read the talmud or kabbalah out of anything but pure anthro interests 2bh

>only females are children
damn sjew's

Ginsberg told some good stories and wrote some good "stuff." Call it poetry or rants or whatever, I don't give a fuck. He didn't create the 50s Jazz/Beat movement, he just reported it in new, surprising, fresh ways. Howl is a brilliant work of observation. I don't know or care if he was degenerate. I mean, of course he was, and his work openly exposes it, proclaimed it in a time when it was supposed to hide and be shamed. He said fuck you and I like when people say fuck you.

If you are a pedophile there is something wrong with you.

>wrong

In related news, the pope fucks kids.

Yes.

There's something wrong with everybody, man. If you don't actually hurt anybody then you're only guilty of having poor taste.

Holy shit, you can't seriously be this fucking stupid can you?

What Christians refer to as "the Old Testament" was written by Jews. It's 100% Semitic mythology.

The OT has absolutely nothing to do with judaism or the jewish people, in fact it is largely a collection of texts condemning the jews.

Wew lad !

The Tanakh is the Old Testament. I'm saying this as a Christian, I'm not sure where you got this idea from but it is wrong.

The tanakh has pretty much nothing at all to do with the religion of judaism, only a few select fragments of the texts are used superficially in certain rituals.

And indeed much of the OT is an admonition of the jewish people and their wicked ways and devil worship, much as they continue to do to this day.

The Tanakh was written largely in Hebrew by Semites in the Levant and neighboring regions.

There is Orthodox Judaism and Reform.

Please stop.

Ginsberg was an Unorthodox Jew.

They're all talmudists and kabbalists anyway.
The tanakh was inspired.

>The tanakh was inspired.

Kill yourself, moron.

Jesus was the fulfillment of the Old Testament prophecies.

Age of consent for heterosex 21 in most Failmerican states.
Age of consent for homosex 35 in the few AmeriKKKan states where it isn't banned.

No, I can see no reason to join it.

The more I learn about the israelites (not contemporary jews, mind you) and how high christians have regarded them, the less I think of them.

Before the fall of the bronze age civilizations, what is Israel today was part of Egypt back then. Something that's hardly mentioned in Exodus - that lovely stormfaggish genocidical fantasy about things that never happened.

>age of consent for heterosex 21
>age of consent for homosex 35
how can one man be so wrong?

Jesus is a fictional character specifically created to fulfill Old Testament 'prophecies'.

I hope this is bait & you're not being serious because I cringed so hard it hurt..

Get the fuck out you fink

More failnosaxon sex laws:

If a girl is 13 year old, was drunk and wore a short skirt, then it isn't rape.
If two 35-year old men have penis frottage and a third one is kissing the heads of the penises, then it's assault and battery and everyone is charged with raping all and everyone else in the company.

Jesus was probably not fictional. But Moses...

Jesus was a real person.

Whether you're gay or not it's pretty much agreed upon that his poetry is shit.

It's true, though.

The patriarchs were definitely fictional. Jesus was likely a fictional creation. But even if he was in some limited sense a real historical person, the stories about him were 100% fictional. The gospel of Mark is a line-for-line retelling of parts of the Old Testament. The other gospels retold Mark, with a few additions here and there.

At least Jesus is plausible. But Moses and the whole BS about exactly how many israelites being held in capture in Egypt and despite that not one line of written reference can be found in Egypt...

Fucking bronze age collapse! The only surviving civilization was Egypt who for some 2000 years has been belittled by christians and jews.

Why are so many homos accepting of pedophilia. It's not just gay men btw lesbians do this shit too. Fucked up

I was way into the Beat Generation in high school, but I didn't touch Ginsberg because I didn't like him on sight. He rubbed me the wrong way. Looked like a poseur sucking up to and trying to fit in with (and fuck) the real talents. I don't know where I got this impression, but now that I know he was also a literal pedophile, I'll consider my irrational aversion to him a testament to my intuition.

He was mediocre. But he was funny mediocre. He's dead, who cares what his private life was. You onna take up the mantles aintcha'?

Entirely agree but still pic related.

Attacks on the National Socialist Party stink of politics, witchhunting for profit, humorlessness, vanity, anger and ignorance ... I'm a member of the National Socialist Party because I hate Jews too– everybody does, who has a little humanity.

There's a whole organization devoted to the idea that men should be allowed to have sex with boys, but there's no similar organization (or at least of similar size) saying the same of girls. There's clearly something about gays that make them more likely to be, or more accepting of, pedos

He wanted to fuck Kerouac so bad.
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>anti-semitism is in the news more than anti-catholicism despite Jews having more power

There was a time when revelation of Ginsberg's pedophilia would have encouraged users to read him, rather than inciting such disapproval. Neo-Veeky Forums is a weird fucking place.

Agreed thoroughly

You're a faggot

You're totally speaking out of your ass here

m'lady

who doesn't though? the guy is a stud