Hey Veeky Forums so yesterday I was at a party and this really drunk chick mentioned something about feminism (I don't know for sure, I was talking to a friend). Anyway, apparently while she was talking I laughed loudly at a friends joke and she took it as I was laughing at her. She flipped her shit and starting yelling at me, she was drunk as fuck. Saying shit like "Bigot scum" and something about privilege, i don't even know, there was a lot of noise. Anyway, noone believes me that I wasn't laughing at her but my friends joke and they're all alienating me which fucking sucks.
This is Veeky Forums related though. I need some recs on entry level feminism books so I actually know how to prepare myself next time.
If your friends are alienating you because they think you laughed at a feminist you should probably find new friends.
Christian Phillips
Sorry it's not that. The chick told them that it was way worse then it was. I know it sounds stupid but all my friends turned on me. They're the type of crowd to do that, they're big into social justice.
Robert Martin
>implying you need more friends than your books
Mason King
wtf one of my "friends" just sent me this photo...
I don't get it, someone explain.
Matthew Hall
If they refuse to believe you and basically call you a liar then they're not your friends and you shouldn't grovel and seek out books on feminism.
Ryder Ramirez
my friends have become this haven't 'turned on me' but I know they would if given the chance university ruins people
Joshua Garcia
What the fuck kind of friends do you have?
Liam Turner
No serious individual actually cares about anything mentioned in this post not anything in relation to it. OP either find new friends or just accept your new life as a cuckold.
Jacob Peterson
It is saying that in mainstream lit and media gay people are under-represented. It is saying "treat the norm as if it were the "taboo/other"
Imagine being white and having kids at school asking to feel the texture of your hair.
Noah Baker
It's ironic, because they think this is what people do with gay characters.
David Wright
Am I the only one who hasn't experienced feminism in real life? Is this an issue in the States where you can't go anywhere without seeing one?
William Sanchez
I haven't experienced it either but I think it's mostly confined to college campuses.
Cooper Gray
I experienced your mum last night. I fucked her gooch sack and filled it with my cummies.
Kayden King
How was it?
Noah Turner
do you go to university?
Lucas Howard
No it isn't, but then again I live in Alabama. I assume up in the northeast or in California you'll find people with the typical 25 facial piercings, like green hair, obese etc but I haven't seen them. Everyone I know doesn't care in the slightest about these 'issues.'
Anthony Roberts
Pic related, your dad didn't listen.
Nolan Peterson
I'm in a college in the US, and I rarely see them. There are plenty of girls with hair dyed weird colors, but autistic guys (the type who are most definitely not feminist) dye their hair too. Only one girl I know is a feminist, but she's not unreasonable or closed minded at all. I don't talk to anyone outside of my major so I'm p biased in that respect.
Kevin Sanders
It is exactly that, your friends are shit tier humans.
Robert Morales
just take a course in feminism for men. Try courses like " prepping the bull" or "making your cuck shed comfy"
Luis Bennett
bell hooks - Feminism is for Everybody
Just start there.
Jose Sanchez
>university ruins people This, I got a fucking GI Bill and I don't even feel like using because of all the SJW shit at universities. I'm afraid that I'd get shit grades from the professors just for not conforming to their bullshit ideals. What college isn't like this? Or whats a good way of dealing with them? God, fuck my shit up ISIS-chan...
Lincoln Scott
God forbid you confront the inequities of your world view and lived experiences
You're as bad as SJWs if you're afraid to deal with them and face your beliefs
Kayden Reed
Dude, I'm just asking how deal with the Melissa Clicks that are allowed to preach their bullshit. I'm not gonna waste my goddamn time failing a course just because I didn't agree to be a cuck.
Jose Williams
You're only proving you haven't gone to university and that you're legitimately scared of the boogeyman that /pol/ perpetuates
Also again, scared to confront the potentiality that maybe you're wrong
Samuel Green
It depends where you live, of course.
Blake Richardson
Get a degree that isn't fucking useless and you won't have to worry about politics.
Eli Wright
The way to deal with them is to ignore them and put in the work to pass the classes.
If the professors are the ones giving you trouble, either take it up with the dean or pander to the professor for grades.
Jason Phillips
>boogeyman
Higher education is blatantly infested with radical leftism.
> scared to confront the potentiality that maybe you're wrong
He's scared that he'll be graded poorly for holding beliefs that conflict with his professor's, which is a perfectly legitimate fear.
Mason Foster
You're right about that, I do have this drummed up fear of it. I don't know anybody that goes to a university, so the only things I ever hear about uni is just the /pol/ tier stuff . I've been getting advice like , which is good advice.
>Higher education is blatantly infested with radical leftism. Thats what I need to know, is it REALLY that bad? I can ignore that, I just relish the idea of being harassed over a length of time.
Carter Gray
>This is Veeky Forums related though. if you have to say this its not
but ofc this thread is gonna stay up cause this board is /r9k/ and /pol/ hybrid now.
Gavin Jenkins
Thats what I need to know, is it REALLY that bad? I can ignore that, I just relish the idea of being harassed over a length of time.
Depends on the course and the college. If you sign up for a STEM related subject then you're safe.
Joseph Perez
Christina Hoff Summers is quite good.
I reckon tell them that feminism is an extension of the bourgeois mentality and fits into the pose of inoculation as described by Roland Barthe. Basically the best way to argue with these people is to tell them they're not self-flagellating enough and they don't realise how much there "not REAL" feminism is hurting marginalised people - they go nuts for that.
Caleb Jenkins
Well if you're objectively, ridiculously wrong, yes you'll get reamed
I've had both right and left professors, but it takes a special kind of idiot to be conservative when they go into my field
Stick to business or STEM bullshit and you'll be safe in your bubble that tells you its only black people's fault they're poor and that it's fine and acceptable that we rape the earth for meaningless products
Kayden Young
>you'll be safe in your bubble that tells you its only black people's fault they're poor and that it's fine and acceptable that we rape the earth for meaningless products
triggered
Isaiah Rodriguez
define deficit thinking
Dominic Gonzalez
...
Hunter Mitchell
It sounds like you are young and in college. All of it, friends, feminist cunts, everything goes away once its over. Everyone either goes to work with dead looks in their eyes, or becomes NEET, and doesnt run into either.
So dont worry and make new friends.
Blake Scott
>define deficit thinking
is google broke or you just being lazy?
Joseph Barnes
At no point did I indicate that I believe this. I just want to avoid the SJWs because they've been attracting a lot of negative attention and I just don't want to get thrown into that mix.
Brayden Carter
>using google
And if you know what deficit thinking is, you wouldn't say i was triggered—rather that i just kinda know what i'm talking about
William Watson
>GUH.... If u weren't such a BIGOT and a retard who didn't know anything about hermeneutics and critical theory you'd realize being a nu-male is totally ok
Jackson Scott
>avoid the SJWs >avoiding opposing viewpoints
In my last year of college I took a course on medieval women and it was fantastic. The mature thing to do would be to consider what is said, and then make a critical opinion regarding what is said based upon your life experience and available scholarship.
Sticking your head in the dirt about anything is ridiculous and anti-intellectual.
Thomas Johnson
OP-
That is a shitty story but it has more to do with your shitty friend group than in does with feminism. It sounds like they aren't even your friends if they won't give you the benefit of the doubt about something they heard second hand.
Secondly, why haven't you learned anything about feminism yet? There are 3.5 billion women on the planet. Do you have a mom or sister? Or female friends? Feminism improves their lot in life.
>I need some recs on entry level feminism books so I actually know how to prepare myself next time.
The Second Sex
It's really long, but worth it.
Alexander Powell
Man don't be so reductive and lame, this is why people think you guys are idiots because you make big grandiose statements like that.
In many ways I'm sure you have a point but you're part of the problem when you write shit like that.
Lucas Rodriguez
I believe it's a reference to Dumbledore being gay and how that would be changed if everyone's sexual were reversed so he was straight and everyone else was gay
Hudson Brown
>Secondly, why haven't you learned anything about feminism yet? There are 3.5 billion women on the planet. Do you have a mom or sister? Or female friends? Feminism improves their lot in life.
that's not what self-reported happiness statistics say
Why didn't you dump them sooner? Why fill your social circle with trash?
Denmark here, know one who is. You just have to look for hipsters. Look for old looking loose clothes, awkward turtlenecks, and ridiculous 70s hippie haircuts, and you'll probably find some twink and his feminist galpals.
Bentley Perez
Get toxic people out of your life. Surround yourself with fun and positive people who appreciate you no matter your political identity.
Chase Phillips
Didn't say it makes them happier, just that it provides them with more opportunities. e.g. womens suffrage
What kind of pussy cares about being happy?
Caleb Ross
IMO feminism not third wave bullshit isnt about happiness but the right to work, vote, participate outside the domestic sphere on an equal footing with men.
Clearly there are many misandrists out there and they are the ones who have ruined a good thing.
Connor Sanchez
Related story. I'm a Finance and Economics major and was sitting in my business statistics class with my favorite hat on. The hat has a red republican elephant on it. A girl behind me tapped my shoulder and said something like "you know you might be mistaken for a racist with a hat like that's." (Actually said this to me!!!) and I replied "Go fuck yourself dude." And she went and told the teacher who laughed and sent her back to her seat where she grabbed her shit, muttered something unpleasant and left. Didn't see her the rest of the semester.
Pick a useful major and only associate yourself with like minded individuals if you don't want to deal with this nonsense. Backing down is the worst thing you can do.
Hudson Turner
I... want to fuck her so bad....
Jace Thomas
Goddamn nigger go to school. They fuckin pay you to learn
Liam Perry
I don't even care if this is true or not, this made me feel good.
Jason Brooks
she clearly keeps her hubby happy.
Carter Nelson
>more opportunities. e.g. womens suffrage
and this has been repeatedly shown to make women less happy
keep being in denial though, I'm sure the increasingly large amount of single and childless feminists are, deep down, absolutely thrilled at being able to wake up to a makework secretary job every day and grow old and irrelevant while sitting at home with a studio apartment full of cats
Joshua Robinson
Oh I will, I just need to pick the right school for something business related
Wyatt Campbell
>stay only around people like you who have similar views
Lol do you need a conservative safe place?
Matthew Foster
Idk what to say besides I promise it is lol. She had greasy dyed black hair and like 6 rings in each ear and her nose. No clue what she was doing in an actual important classroom.
Ethan Price
kys little air-headed samantha, kys~
Cameron Wright
There's a difference in a safe space and not wanting to be bombarded by your "friends" giving you a hard time for having different political beliefs. Op asked what to do, and I told him watch who you hang around. nice straw man though
Aaron Bell
Shiiiiit a loser on lit told me to kill myself i guess its over
God forbid they learn what redlining is
Daniel Thompson
What, you can't handle having a belief and defending it amongst friends? Can only be around people who espouse the same horseshit as you?
That's just childish
Benjamin Wright
It's like americans have just discovered mass politics and they get so carried away.
So weird.
Christian Nelson
Lmao what's more childish, giving a man advice about how to avoid being accosted by his friends or completely changing someone else's argument to make them look stupid on a Chinese etch-a-sketch forums' literature board?
Sebastian Jenkins
I'm reporting you to the feelsies police, ma'am, you'll have a time-out and possibly several rape charges on your hands. Now please, follow me at an appropriate gender neutral distance of ~15 feet to the campus safe space so I can report your crimes against (Me).
Gavin Jenkins
this board is such trash now
Ryder Nelson
ugh like yea i know i wish it was more like Veeky Forums so we can have like ACTUAL discussion and stuff like fuck these assholes and bigots just keep spewing their stupid shit when everyone else is trying to be on the right side of history, i wish constantine was here to back me up
Jeremiah Perry
Bloo bloo baby can't handle opposition
Blake Gutierrez
Don't you have some false rape charges to report because you got drunk at a frat party and some ugly guy fucked you anally, you fat cow?
Sebastian Wood
>now
Wyatt Green
You are so mad at the idea of someone saying things you don't like to your face and having ti speak up for them
What a babby
Carson Howard
This is hilarious
Easton Edwards
Actually I don't live in the US so I can talk back to loudmouthed little bimbos who think they know something without being hauled off by liberals for gender reassessment surgery and ritalin.
Jose James
He's trolling us lad let it go
Christopher Lewis
This. As a brit I'm so baffled by this shit.
Charles Thompson
But I'm havin' a laff, m8...
Parker Scott
It's because our population is so large and media driven compared to yours. I promise ta just a very loud minority. Most Americans either find this type of nonsense annoying or simply pay it no mind whatsoever.
Grayson Perry
Carry on then laddy I'm enjoying it a bit meself.
Ayden Sanchez
>everyone that uses 4chen is a Klapistani >therefore he is trolling
Not even the poster, just wanted to point out your strawman.
Leo Watson
I went to a top 20 US University with a reputation for being "alternative" and super liberal.
Those kids and professors were a weird clique that was easily avoided the majority of the time. Everyone else just wanted to go work in a bank or go to grad school. If you think this stuff is actually a big deal to most students and academics (who are studying totally unrelated fields and have been for decades) than you need to reevaluate your relationship to fear-mongering media.
GI Bill guy: if you go to college, have a well-compensate career in mind. If you do, this stuff will have 0 bearing on what you're there for no matter where you go.