Finding a qt

Me, me, me. Me want penis in vagina. Me want vagina to be clever.

Stop being such a child, no one cares.

>I'll die a virgin.

Yeah so what? Get over this fucking meme that sex and relationships are essential to life.

Stop making it seem like you're just some put upon victim. What are you doing that brings out that side of people to the point where they want to avoid or embarrass you?

People will always continue in cycles of bullshit until they recognize their own place in the situation and make a change.

Even tho I can't agree with everything you've written I really like your optimistic view. Thanks.

Every single person on this site is a sexist piece of shit and it sucks

Get the sand out of your cooch, cunt.

I love this kind of armchair psychologists.

this is some of the dumbest shit ive ever read on Veeky Forums

everyone in this thread is my worst nightmare and why I'd hesitate to ever date a boy who identifies as literary.

nice post

Yeah, expecting women to be intelligent and stable is like expecting high brow literature in an airport shop. You're in the wrong place.

>this thread
Why does this subject trigger so many people?

So many ego-checkers and people apparently angry about any discussion of how to obtain fulfilling relationships

>I'm a really tolerate and polite person, desu.
This is why you'll die a virgin, this is not what girls want you schmuck.

Kek, now I have a clever vagina fetish. Like a vagina that makes witty remarks. Maybe eve one that has an anus sidekick to help with the banter.

You either have to give up who you are to play by other people's rules or be alone your whole life if you want intimate relationships. I'm not even just talking about women either, it's everybody and everything. Nobody cares about you, they just want to dominate the parts of your personality that make them feel good and force all the other ones out (and if they can't do this they just stop being your friend).

So it's basically either become a normie (whatever that means in your environment) or be alone. There's literally no in between

I've found that the only girls who ever take their intellect and work ethics seriously are the ones who have self-image issues. Their parents had low opinions of them and they made it no secret. In turn, these girls have to turn to something that they can improve by hardwork. Most turn to books, academics or the whorehouse. The ones who believe they are nothing are the ones who value their trades as their egos.

That's just my bit of wisdom. Gl OP

The only thing that made me feel absolute horror is a girl I dated a while back.

We went to the same scarcely populated lectures on descrete math. She was sitting first-row with a Ulysses in her hands, eyes darting left-right, reading with what seemed a mechanical presicion. I'm a relatively handsome man, a beta posing as alpha posing as beta, and have a habit of thinking of stories or anecdotes and the possible branching dialog before conversations, so that I appear witty or charismatic. The rare topic I can improvise on is literature, so I was searching for a gf that can keep pace. We talked for a bit and she did; actually, she read much more than me, and her taste was immaculate, to the point where it seemed suspicious. I noticed that she recites entire passages from memory, but the expression on her face doesn't change, as if that was completely unremarkable.

The horrible thing announced itself a bit later, on the second date. On the first we talked about our families, friends, and studying, which was boring, but good for establishing common ground. Literature appeared more personal, so I decided not to blabber on, like a man obsessed, and keep a distance between such discussions. So, when the topic came up on the second date, she asked me why do I read it. I said, trying to be honest and I was, that it brings me enjoyment, I improve, I think on things larger than me, grand, universal stuff, or perhaps something that seems banal until the books revealed to me its true(or not, but at least deeper) nature - sex, suicide. She said that there are no such things in books. It's just words. The best thing for killing time. She read Magic Mountain last week and din't even connect the lines: she says, there are no plots in life, in books there are fabrications, she never understood why people chatter about meaning and beauty. Her tone was conspiratory, we-both-know-it kind of deal, emperor's new clothes. To her it was just joyless masturbation that made her look good.

dont go for literary qts, go for knowledgeable qts. as long as she reads more than 0 books per year and is into academics, you can get her into lit. don't expect women being capable of a discussion from their own opinions, few are such, others just parrot things

Girls that frequently meditation classes tend to be more mentally stable and humble. Its not something you should do unless you have an interest in meditation itself but in most medium and larger cities there are meditation classes/sessions (often free) where groups of people meditate together. QTs that attend these are very chill.

This also true with yoga but to a lesser extent and it usually costs money to attend but the ration of QT girls to dudes is higher as well.

I really can't even relate to you no-pussy getting motherfuckers. It's absurd. Treat women with respect. Be polite. She doesn't owe you anything.

Finding someone you love and who loves you is so transformative it's beyond understanding. You're going to get your heart broken. Maybe more than once.

Do you only eat cold cereal because mommy won't let you use the stove? Grow up and get out in the world and get burned.

Wrong board

>i cant relate
so dont talk

I am going to post this pasta on my meme page on facebook

Good lord that is frightening

>going for girls
>not being completely apathetic towards them, thus becoming more attractive in their eyes

you get the girls to approach you when you're not stuttering over your own words to say 'hello' and timidly glancing at their cleavage every 10 seconds

>Treat women with respect. Be polite. She doesn't owe you anything.
Have fun getting cucked.

>Have fun getting cucked.

Indeed. But it's not about treating women with respect and politeness, it's about treating everyone like this. Just don't be a doormat and stand by your principles. And when you don't like something, put your fucking foot down, don't compromise unless you stand to lose too much.

Pretty much. Too much focus is placed on getting a """girlfriend""" instead of just being friends with people, as in actually being a functional human being who can maintain healthy relationships.

A quick fix: Too much focus is being placed on finding partners. Instead, people should be chasing their dreams, doing what they love, sharing their ambition. With this, it's only a matter of time before you find someone who likes you for yourself and not your pussy chasing mask

no sane girl would ever date anyone who posts on Veeky Forums

True that, thanks for sharing.

don't overestimate yourself

Respect is earned, not given. You say integrity is important but you sound like you have none, the only difference between you and OP is the way in which you are pathetic.

Respect can be earned through force. If I beat a bitch she will like me because bitches can't help but have an unconscious attraction to those that can give them a good beating.

It sounds like you confuse respect with reverence.

Basic levels of respect for everyone are pretty much the ABCs of being an adult.

Just date a pleb, Joyce did it.

Then I should adopt buddhism because apparently my self is fucking non-existent

>respect is earned

I rather think that it is given, but is then taken away, depending on the individuals actions and demeanor

for example, don't you respect homeless people? i mean, sure most of them don't deserve much of it, if they were the cause of their state; but how can a homeless person earn your respect? you write as if you are better than most, instead of minding your own business and letting others be the judge of that.

I am of the thought that everyone deserves respect, just because they exist. in that sense, they're winners of their own accord. the levels of respect differ of course, and each man should be treated as he treats others.

I am a virgin NEET ascetic currently at stage IV of the Norwood Scale and an addict to hardcore pornography for the best part of ten years, and what I've noticed in my reading of hundreds of blog posts, reddit comments and message board discussions between women or at least frequented by women is that "slutty" women, aka women who are perceived to be very sexual and whose characters are associated with sex and eroticism tend to be relatively predictable and unadventurous in terms of open-mindedness when it comes to having sex and personal preferences associated with the act itself, largely, in my opinion, because their characters and perspectives are overwhelmingly the result of a culture which promotes the sexual experience while continuing to shame and ostrichsize those who may be perceived as "weird" or "obsessed" about something that is not conspicuously advertised as something one is allowed to be obsessed with, while those girls considered "shy" or "studious" etc tend to be extremely perverted, in terms of their appreciation of unconventional sexual acts, I mean I myself have viewed hundreds of amateur of videos wherein the female protagonists resembled the kind of girls that I mistakenly perhaps in retrospect identified as naive, innocent, childlike in their desire merely for romantic affection and so on during my four years in college (during which time I attracted but failed to ask out a single one of these girls, for reasons my psychologist and I have spent the past 1.5 years attempting to work out) but who were actually likely to be the exact kind of girls who enjoyed things like golden showers, analingus (given), "rape-play", daddy roleplay, choking, spitting, hitting, spanking and roleplay in which she was the "unwitting" victim and / or captor of a malevolent, aggressive, callous male using her body for to appease his sadistic ambitions.

Certainly but that kind of respect doesn't necessary lead to loyalty which is what you really want in a long term relationship.
Not at all, a belief in an universal entitlement of respect is a sign of childhood or arrested development. The real world simply doesn't work that way.

I guess you haven't been here for long

She wasn't a pleb. She was regarded as one of the greatest farters of her time.

>Not at all, a belief in an universal entitlement of respect is a sign of childhood or arrested development. The real world simply doesn't work that way.

You literally have it ass backwards and again I think you have a very odd idea of what constitutes respect. Its little more than acknowledging people as individuals with their own space and responsibilities.

Are you really going to tell me again that's childish?

>literary
She's reading the Lovely Bones, brah.

>Its little more than acknowledging people as individuals with their own space and responsibilities.
This is fagtalk for not being assertive and making people do what you want.

you can be all those things, without being a total ass, and actually having friends

You can also stop being a milquetoast and still have friends, I guarantee you that you will get more out of life.

>milquetoast
fair enough; I am, and am working on not being

Every literary qt is pretentious or is an emotionally unstable psychopath.

the psychopaths are often worth it, a lot of them really read.

One of the major conceptual shifts necessary to becoming a full, healthy adult is realising that women are basically children. Your intuitive view of women, when you're growing up, is that they are equal partners, and the media will constantly bombard you with bizarre fairy tales that women are these wonderful allies and emotional props in difficult times, things that will change you for the better and make you want to be better, and (especially) that they are solemn judges whose esteem and partnership you have to earn, as one of life's great quests and milestones.

In reality, they are basically 15 year old boys with tits and very indulgent parents. That's a reasonable description of their level of emotional and personal maturity, and usually of intelligence as well. Even the few that are smarter tend to be unstable. Actually, intelligence usually multiples instability, and not in fun quirky MPDG ways.

Stop looking for friendship in women. Companionship, fine, but decent companionship is inherent to femininity. Your weird oedipal manbrain is always going to appreciate having a surrogate mommy around who lets you touch her boobs. But stop looking for actual personalities, and especially stop looking for "character" or "virtue" in women. Those are male qualities you should be looking for in lifelong friends. Women are there to love you unconditionally and raise your kids. They can be absolutely amazing and life-changing at that, but your surrogate mommy will never really be your "friend" unless you're the kind of pathetic retard who thinks his mom is his real best friend. Men who place their girlfriends as their #1 BFF are damaged.

Good.

oh law, what happened to you? Mummy leave you at an early age? This is really fucked up teenager making stuff up to pretend they are clever shit. Stop. You literally are behind the curve on development but not intelligence which leads to the sad conclusion of believing stuff other adults don't becuase they arent teens anymore.

>dibs bedora :DD

I agree that a man shouldn't have a best friend-like relationship with their wife/GF but women that you don't have sex with or only rarely have sex with on occasion can still be great friends and intellectual engagement with some of them can be as enjoyable as it is with other men.

Girls who are into any kind of art are most of the time really shitty. They are either ugly or just plain insufferable, even girls who are into 'lower' art like video games or comics are shit.
This is sure a generalization but you can't deny a pattern, the more a girl is into art or any male oriented hobby, the shittier her personality is. Most of the time pursuing this girls isn't really worth it, since you just can go for a regular girl just as attractive and 'get' her much easier without all the drama and crazy shit dating an artistic girl conveys.
Weak argument.

not him but his views seem more realistic than yours. a lot of women are immature in ways that in a man would be regarded as dangerous at the same age. the guy who acts like he's still fifteen gets more social disapproval than the girl who throws a tantrum when someone points out she's not fifteen any more. cf: YA fans

The one-in-a-million woman who overcomes her gender's brain sicknesses so that she is actually capable of being a loyal friend can be great, but they will never be on par with men intellectually. Jesus Christ. It's not even about innate brain power. Men just.. actually do things. Women are unambitious nesters.

Kudos to you if you found a woman who has a really specific emotional psycho-cocktail that makes her have real interests, to a degree comparable to men, but it's not homologous to men. It's basically an error. Try to get her to breed so we can have more women who aren't cows, I guess. But telling other guys to go and search for friendship in women is mean, because they will mix up their sexual and romantic yearnings with the needle-in-a-haystack friendship search and end up getting used and humiliated.

>>>/reddit/

How can someone be this autistic?

If you have to prove yourself to a girl, she's not worth it, and looking for an "ideal" is only going to end in misery. Stop trying so hard and stop caring about it so much, girls aren't attracted to desperate betas.

So what's your analysis of gays?
I always thought we were much more fortunate for not needing women for sexual gratification

If you get a gf, then you should spent time with her doing pointless things like going out, spending money for her, buy her shit, buy her cafe and food.
So if you don't get a gf you would have more money to buy more books (or you can save your money if you're pirating) and can spend more time reading and educate your intellect and brain.
So yes this is my remedy-philosophizing for not having a gf.

Where exactly is that implied? I'm the one who posted it.

Bad thing getting more knowledge is pretty much useless. Mental masturbation and sex are pretty much the same thing, just pleasure.

I think this is the problem of modern society, for breaking the old convention of family.
In our country, since modernity happened not so fast, our grandmas resemble faithful women who had at least 8 children, cook tasty foods, and all the things women considered to do in the last 10000 years or more.
but look at girls of our own age, we see bunch of narcissistic cunts who have to show they intimate parts to everyone, have at least sex with 2 men before getting married (if getting married!), don't have any arts that women 100 years ago had, don't grow children anymore but put them on childcare and so.

I wasn't recommending that people go out and try to do that but in situations where it just arises naturally like if you get to know them well through work/school it can lead to enjoyable friendships. In college at times I lived with multiple attractive girls with whom there was some level of mutual sexual attraction but personality-wise we weren't the ideal dating partner of the other and so we just ended up being close friends and when one of us would hook up with other people in the apartment it wasn't awkward at all.

You shouldn't approach women and try to set up times to hang-out as friends if you don't know them that well but its a mistake to have an aversion to hanging out with women in a 1-on-1 but non-dating manner when you both just think the other is a cool and fun person.

I'm bi and feel really fucking bad for gays. They're basically all insane.

Monogamous love is by far the exception and not the rule. Realistically, it's just nonexistent in most contexts. I searched for a long time to find evidence of any demographic of gays that dates "like normal people," and all I could ever find are individual weird exceptions (who were all massively depressed and lonely as a result).

On top of that, the vast majority of gays have introjected this fucked up feminine-masculine dichotomy, and they're all hypersexualized. It's really difficult to have a genuine moment or mutual understanding with a gay dude, because it's ALL about the sex. It's bizarre. They have the emotional instability of women but the sex drives of men, so it's not even as if gay dudes set aside monogamy on the basis of a "rational" decision to prioritize casual sex, they are just sex-infused psychotic apes. It's impossible to find a sane guy with whom you can have casual sex and otherwise be on the level. They're all a little nuts.

They're also all walking pornos, and they're totally unashamed of it because they think every other guy is a walking porno too (which I guess is usually the case). It's not unusual for a gay dude to abruptly ask questions like
>so hey do you think your dad would want to join us for the ass sex???
as if this is a realistic possibility. Honestly, gays are frightening.

Spend time with people because you like them, not because you're infatuated with the abstract idea of a relationship.

>fucking pretentious or emotionally unstable psychopath
sure you aren't perfect for each other

Gays are mentally ill, that's all there really is to it.

Stop trying to find a qt. Go to a gym, start working out, expand your horizons, talk to more people. Opportunities eventually open up, but you can't obsess over girls all the time.

Fuck your cousin, user. You know it must be.

I'm a woman and i have the exact same problem in reverse, so I assume it's not a gender issue but a people issue.

BE MY GIRLFRIEND

BE MY GIRLFRIEND

BE MY GIRLFRIEND

I WILL LITERALLY MAKE YOU EJACULATE

I WILL DOMINATE YOU SEXUALLY AND REASSURE YOU EMOTIONALLY

I WILL IMPRESS YOUR PARENTS

I WILL ENTERTAIN YOUR YOUNGER COUSINS IN A WAY THAT WILL MAKE YOU FEEL MATERNAL

I WILL ENCOURAGE YOUR AMBITIONS

I WILL HOLD YOUR HAND

I WILL WHISPER TO YOU AT NIGHT

I WILL WATCH YOUR HOME VIDEOS AND LOOK AT PHOTOGRAPHS OF YOUR FAMILY WHEN YOU WERE YOUNGER

I WILL EXPAND YOUR FRAME OF REFERENCE

I WILL INDULGE YOUR SEXUAL FANTASIES

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LET ME BE YOUR BOYFRIEND

PLEASE

PLEASE

PLEASE

>i have the exact same problem in reverse
You keep meeting stable and well adjusted men who are very well read? And you want to find an emotional wreck who's a pretentious psycho? I wish I was in your shoes, girl.

This is a pretty good parody.

good post

Whence this misconception that men are inherently more actualized than women? I have come to find that my male peers spend most of their time coveting their expensive cars, spending hours watching television, smoking weed, watching anime, masturbating to hardcore porn, etc. They do nothing of worth, they have no interest in self-improvement, they lack any inkling of ambition. They are Neitzsche's last men.

Sure, women have their worthless habits, but it is more a problem with people as I believe others have pointed out. So you might want to reconsider these false assumptions.

>I wish I was in your shoes, girl.
Fucking shoe fetishists I swear

Fucking spot on

Pretty much. All these guys pretending that men are inherently better than women are just guys who cant wait to suck some cock.

If you ask me both are equally stupid.

A lot of normal people don't date like normal people.

Whenever I see threads like this I wonder if these poor slobs didn't grow up with sisters.

Common man likes to use long words to impress girls, but truthfully, all he says can be reduced to "I like it" or "I don't like it". A guy who reads only YA, but can actually talk about it, is vastly preferrable to typical lit-worm.

I'm not even joking. Please. I am suffering in the depths of hell. There must be a way out. I NEED a cute submissive girl to help me find a way out. Please descend and shine your holy light along the passages I must take to escape. I am lying here nude and afraid in the dark. I don't know where I am. Everything terrifies me. Sometimes I get up and try and make another attempt to find an exit but I only end up descending further. The air is thin. It's so hot. All of my body hurts. I am tense and exhausted. Sometimes I hear echoes and I begin to chase them not knowing if they are real or imagined. Sometimes I laugh knowing I have no reason to. All my body aches. Surely there is a way out. Surely I can find it. Please don't let me starve down here. I will die if things go on this way. Perhaps I am already dead. There faces laughing at me in the dark. They terrify me. Always laughing. All my wounds are crusted with dirt. I lived elsewhere once upon a time! The air was clean the sun was warm there was laughter in the breeze. I saw the face of a beautiful girl and the memory makes me want to cry. I am so thirsty but there is no water to quench my thirst. My tongue is covered with dust. I choke each time I inhale. My breath catches so often and prevents me from sleeping any more than a few minutes at a times. Please let me sleep at least. Let my eyes recover. They burn but produce no tears. Please descend to save me.

Nietzsche died of syphillis.
If you need the evidence of a woman's inferiority, read your post. Or the bible.

>Every literary qt I find is a fucking pretentious

they're not pretentious user, they're just smarter and more well-read than you. you're just a pseud so you think actual sophistication = pretense

kindly kill yourself

sage and report

Joyce was also a pleb. Think of Slavoj Zizek now with his dirty cheap tshirts and sweatpants. Now imagine that in 50 to 100 years time people think of him being like this suited and booted gentleman

That's what's happening with Joyce

I bet this man is not only pretending, he already has a gf.

Grow up.

we need to add this to the live life at your expense pasta

Were you attempting to say something in this post?