Is this faggot a hack or is he on to something?

Donovan uses evolutionary psychology as the basis for outlining how and why male mind works they way it does.

Essentially, men evaluate each other based on a set of masculine virtues which are the traits men would require in their allies in any type of shit hits the fan situation. Our minds evolved for a neolithic world, and we still think the way we would need to think if we were living 100K years ago.

He says the reason men are in an existential crisis (massive suicide, depression rates) is that we live in a way that our minds our ot evolved to live in. We require a small tribal group (150 or less persons, dunbars number) that we can act as a guardian and hunter for.

Donovan suggests that we form small tribal gangs (much like immigrant communities, small towns, or organised crime gangs) within larger society to stay sane.

Is the "what I got" image unsubtly homoerotic?

So its all a pretext to have massive gay orgies.

I'm pretty sure hes the dide who posts nippe pics on /k/

The only correct answer to OP's question.

Yes, pseudo-scientific "just so" stories to justify gay orgies

From his bio: Jack Donovan is an American author known for his writing on masculinity and for his criticisms of feminism and gay culture.

Wow he sounds so educated and insightful.

The only interesting thing is he does so while being openly gay

Hahaha wait what, this guy just got significantly more hilarious.

Joe Rogan for rightists.

Isn't Joe Rogan the Joe Rogan for rightists?

Whatever value one could garner from this treatise on evolutionary psychology **hint: fuck all* * its still going to be used to justify broad conclusions about the gynocentric society and the conspiracy of cultural marxism by autistics pseuds who have never read a book in their life trying to justify the modern MRA attitude of MUH MASCULINITY. All the while sitting on their asses not even trying to make changes about themselves that would make them more masculine, because itz da femnists fault, you can't even sneeze without being accused of rape! MUH GHOSTBUSTERS

spoooky

Are you upset? You seem upset.

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The thing is I agreed with what you were describing until you hit the last bit, does he honestly suggest that?

My response to the insights that you describe would be to try to address this evolutionary baggage as the issue and not the solution.

It's very spooky

true desu

Or it could motivate someone to go into a different line of work, join a rugby team or care more for their local community in some way. Just a thought.

I read the book and a few others in my search for masculinity and am now 6 months into SS. That crab in the bucket mentality ain't gonna get you far

You started dressing up as a Nazi?

>I'm gonna get healthier and learn some discipline!
>No U R Nadzi
kys

SS is starting strength by mark rippetoe, you read that so you can stop being a twink faggot

>these retards

he doesn't suggest that. He says men can be men in their primal state in those societies

If this is the best book the alt-right can muster, it is time to kill yourselves my mans.

I think he's saying that this "baggage" isn't a problem. It's who we are and it's worse to try to change how our minds work, than to just live life the way we evolved to live it.

Oh you probably browse/pol/ of your reading that. Yeah, don't ever read /pol/ books they are a severe waste of time

Yoy sound butthurt, lad

just read aristotle for fucks sake

>men spending a significant portion of their time on the internet building their internet fandom and arguing with post-modern feminists have anything to say about manhood
NOPE NOPE NOPE

Not to say that they're wrong, but everything they say that is right can be found by better authors. And not all they say is right.

this man knows

You need to calm down.
You're right, but you need to calm down.

>All the while sitting on their asses not even trying to make changes about themselves that would make them more masculine

Your whole post was one long shitty sentence and you should feel bad. Secondly why the fuck would I want to be masculine, I'm a woman. This writer sounds like a cocksucker, that is all.

On to something, but not something that you can't find also in Sun and Steel, Storm of Steel etc.

The evolutionary psych I also don't appreciate, seeing as it is a very bourgeoisie mode of thinking rather than the essentialism I've preferred to adopt.

The people dismissing out of hand are odd. Like I think the book is mostly wrong, but why would post on this website without trying to understand a perspective of a huge amount of people who post here. Well, the argument in the OP is pretty specific, but I mean the NRx/PUA/fascist theory in general. Like it makes sense if you're a liberal/communist and you're here to understand a different opinion, but if you're not, that means your here for some weird pathological reason. Like the normal liberal/communist watering holes have rejected you because you're a shitty person / idiot, and then you hang out with right wingers just so you can have the feel of being smarter than someone.

>very bourgeoisie mode of thinking rather than the essentialism I've preferred to adopt

What does this mean? Why the word essentialist in particular? Does that mean the bourgeoisie is somehow anti-essentialist?

your joke wasn't funny you double nigger

All forms of materialism is necessarily bourgeoisie.

Veeky Forums has a community of posters that do not go to the rest of Veeky Forums

This is obvious bullshit. Veeky Forums is right wing as hell and deeply involved in the rest of board culture. Obviously there's etiquette for keeping discussion on their respective boards, but if you're not right wing or a weeaboo, you're here to hang out with them. If you can't even admit this, you most certainly have the above described personality problems.

Fuck off newfag

Veeky Forums is actually more right-wing than most of /pol/ 2bh

Nice to know that all the new women that have joined us hasnt changed the fact that only like 10% of the people here read the books they discuss.

If you subscribe to his virtues of masculinity you will at least take something out of the book. Courage, honor, mastery, strength are virtues that any male should aspire too.

>Courage, honor, mastery, strength are virtues that any male should aspire too.
spooked

they aint bad "spooks" tbqhwf

>bad
spooked

enjoy your memes

Nope, you're the newfag. I've been on Veeky Forums since 2006 and have browsed this particularly board since it started. You're probably mad because I pointed out you pretend to yourself and others. Sorry!

Veeky Forums has always been anarchist or leftist, fuck off

>It's the im an oldfag defense

What garbage, this is by far the most christfag/monarchist board.

>maybe if I pretend it's true I'll drive out the regulars and have my /pol/ 2.0

times are changing OLD MAN

Sounds like you don't even know what those words mean because you're an insecure idiot who doesn't spend enough time with actual leftists and anarchists.

>essentialism
>the current year
Kys

Considering that right up to the day that Veeky Forums opened that faggot constantine could have 300 post threads where Catholics bashed Orthodox posters over the filioque, and that Evola gets way more respect than Marx, and the amount that the essential right wing lit guide gets posted with Junger in it, I would say you are awkwardly posturing.

>hurr I make zizek memes therefore I'm communist
>hurr I make stirner therefore I'm a anarchist

literally what the Veeky Forums fake left believes

isnt it orthos bashing cathos over the filoque

I AM the creative nothing
>and that Evola gets way more respect than Marx
Wrong
You see more Foucault and Stirner threads than conservative garbage.

to be fair the bashing seems pretty consensual

I think you're exaggerating a bit. Marx and Evola are equally respected and reviled here, I think. But considering that Evola is such a weird, marginal figure while most educated people read at least some Marx, that clearly points to Veeky Forums being right wing.

Wow, I have you down so good I can predict your posts.

along the same lines, the respect given to Spengler for what is ultimately a dated hand-wringing spaz out is pretty stunning.

>tfw Toynbee doesnt get nearly the same respect.

>I make stirner
What did he mean by this?

Supposed to be "stirner memes"

>hurr just because I haven't read him or any other anarchists means others haven't
>I project my insecurities on others

Real anarchists consider stirner a marginal figure and don't really give a shit that Veeky Forums likes him. Your post was literally preemptively owned, I'm not sure why you're still posting.

>Real anarchists
lol

You spent 10 years of your life in this shithole? Why didn't you commit suicide?

>for what is ultimately a dated hand-wringing
fuck, I'm triggered

Probably because I've mostly graduated from it. Mostly just lurk to keep up with alt-right / animu culture.

I do not anymore. Just Google Veeky Forums pol reactionary and you're bound to find it.

Who then?

Agreed.

Most of pol is natsoc/ancap/newfags

Lit is more hard line reactionary. I think it's because everyone embraces the start with the greeks meme, and is exposed to the world of tradition. Lit is farther right than fascism.

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I don't get this image.

In your dreams, nazifag.

>Socialists
>Right wing

The Way of Men is in the ironpill chart

The man cannot escape the path because the only way out is through the doors that will not open for anyone with a certain type of privilege. Then in the sixth room he is faced with the option of accepting the Jewish lies and becoming blue pilled or he can but on the fedora, like the one /pol/'s board-tan wears, and go into the next room. Here the man finds a few dubious infographics which cause him to become redpilled. Now that his eyes are opened he must chose between the two ideologies which once dominated /pol/, libertarianism or national socialism.
And of course art credit goes to Ben "emptying my nine at the welfare line" Garrison

Veeky Forums also has its own reactionary list you can find in the sticky

No, you're right Veeky Forums. What a silly book. Why would anyone suggest men are made for brotherhoods, for conquest, for survival.

Men are made to virtue signal and fight for utopianism with low test upper body strenght.
That's what's up.

Everybody else BTFO t b h

Btfo

Thanks

>anyone who doesn't placate me and reassure me that my taste in milquetoast watered-down literature is at all enviable is a low test SJW-pandering sell out of a man

Just fuck off back to /pol/ already you identity politics peddling dunce; you're as witless as they are with your endlessly goofy polemics.

Same goes for you two dipshits.

Rogan is anti-religion and socially pretty liberal
He's openly opposed to SJW culture and trans-people competing in sports of their new gender but that just makes him a moderate pro-traditional-masculinity American liberal

>that just makes him a moderate pro-traditional-masculinity American liberal

that's a very long way of saying "reasonable"

>uses evolutionary psychology
How do you "use evolutionary psychology". It's not like you can set up a 50 thousand year experiment or go back in time to do some participant observation of neolithic community.

Evo psych is just bad sociology. It's no better than brainlessly claiming that everything is a social construct.

being this triggered, c'mon now.