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Thanks, i'll do the exact opposite.

Any good star trek novels worth reading?

>start following William Gibson's twitter because I remember him as the guy that wrote that one book
>mfw I don't have a face

I mean, it's not like with Neil Gaiman where you can clearly see he is playing his audience, this guy got a lot dumber and it wasn't that profound to begin with.

What other classic writers had later on in their lives outed themselves as people that don't follow logic and reason? I want to know so I don't read their newer stuff.

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2/10

well that is an interesting phenomenon

Are there any fantasy novels with both very explicit rape in them but that are also well written and not grimdark to the point where they become silly?

Any particular Trek series, or are you open to anything?

Anything.
The more it detracts from Roddenberry's absurd ideals, the better.

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Crossover's pretty good, it's got the TNG crew rescuing Ambassador Spock from Romulus with some interesting political stuff.

The Captain's Daughter has Sulu on his own ship finally

Federation was one of the first Kirk/Picard ones, and established some interesting stuff about Zefram Cochrane and the invention of warp drive

Generally the ones written by supporting actors are solid - A Stitch in Time by Andrew Robinson, The 34th Rule by Armin Shimerman, I, Q by John De Lancie. The exception being the Shatner series, which are basically Captain Kirk fanfic.

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You guys should read this.

I heard it's the Tom Clancy of China so I don't think I will try it.

>that dog

>the fuck am i looking at.jpg

Where can I get a download for a Death's End epub?

Well, at least it has most of the known books.

>Foundation
>read if you're studying history
>not psychology or sociology

>tfw China bans time travel in literature
>There's a government out there that has made literature marginally better for everybody

I would if I could.
Death's end when?????

last two books were pretty great.

I thought it was alt history they banned?

Who should I try first - Ramsey Campbell, Caitlin Kiernan, or Laird Barron?

I'm going to assume you're triggered because he isn't a right winger or something like that.

techland.time.com/2011/04/13/china-decides-to-ban-time-travel/

Probably a daft question but is there a term for a genre involving 'hard' (may not be the right term) science fiction set in space? Something realistic/'gritty'/grounded yet set in outer space, no magic or anything like that? Or something like Starship Troopers, that kind of setting.

Got a couple of free tokens on Audible and am looking for something to spend them on, it's either the above genre or getting more military memoirs.

youtube.com/watch?v=s-45NTlgp-o

That's a good example of the kind of setting I mean.

Hard SF space opera. I don't believe Starship Troopers is hard SF and most SF doesn't involve magic.

Man, literally almost every Scifi novel is set in fucking space. Is this a real question?

I wish there was a term for non-space scifi.

ST is closer to 1984 than it is to anything Asimov sf wise

Well that's just sil-
>look at the side
>old people having sex is a new porn niche in japan

Goddammit, Asia. They say that you should know better for being older, but you're just going to random extremes.

So these threads are full of nothing but 16 year olds.

It might be because I'm looking at audiobooks rather than books themselves, but the majority of the sci-fi I'm seeing definitely isn't space related, at least not to the extent I'm interested in (fictional memoirs from a space smuggler, or shock trooper deployed to put down a mars revolt, stuff like that would be amazing but not sure if it even exists.)

Heinlein's got some great stuff, but I've read plenty of his and am after something similar but more modern.

You think he had a large focus on realistic technology and science and didn't use it mostly to give us his (in this case shitty) opinion?

Popular != shit.

I haven't read Death's End but I haven't seen any time travel in the series so far. That ban only applies to TV and movies also.

September 20th, broheim.

That's because you're looking at shit.
Arthur C. Clarke, Larry Niven, Isaac Asimov, E. E. 'Doc' Smith, A. E. van Vogt, Stephen Baxter, Stanislaw Lem, do none of these ring a bell with you? There's a fucktonne of what you're talking about out there. Stop looking at the modern author shite.

>you've probably never heard of these obscure writers like Arthur C. Clarke, have you? heheh, nothing personell kid

Fuck off.

Someone should make a soft SciFi chart about stuff that's not set in space, that'd be cool.

how is the second book?

You might like C. J. Cherryh's Merchanter novels, or even the Chanur books. I can't vouch for how well her heavy use of internal monologue translates to audiobook.

Real good. Much broader in scope than Three Body. One of the protagonists is a waifu-obsessed wiener for the first 150 pages but after that it really picks up.

Better. At least in my opinion.

How far into Dune does stuff start happening, I heard it's kind of slow. Is the pay off worth it?

I know a bunch of people that read SFF. Some of them are family, some of them are old college friends, a bunch of them I see at church. I'm Mormon.

Oh, no, Gibson's not stupid because he's left wing, he's just stupid in general. He never knew what he was talking about. Neuromancer was a lucky strike.

What has he actually done/said?

But your church is basically wacky sf, of course you know people who read sf

Could someone explain to me why Guards! Guards! is always the recommended Discworld novel? I've bought each Discworld up to it, did I fuck up?

Very much so. It really slows down during the desert stuff but the ending is intense. Depends how much you enjoy pseudo-space-Muslims and long complicated words.

Probably just because it introduces the City Watch and they're the characters he did the most with.

The City Watch sequence is popular, and Guards! Guards! is the first one.

Aight thanks. I was fearing that it was the first good one or something.

The first couple are pretty shit. Most people don't read Discworld in order

>Most people don't read Discworld in order
Someone post the reading guide.

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Lads I've just finished The Hitchhikers Guide to The Galaxy series and (most of) Discworld, can you recommend me some more good Sci-Fi Fant Comedy please?

Preferably British, but anything so long as it's funny.

So I did fuck up? Nvm, I'll still give em a go I might like em.

Um. Was that intentional?

>The first couple are pretty shit
I have a soft spot for Pyramids tbqh, pity he never went back to that setting

W-what am I reading?

Your funeral
Don't come back crying that you should have listened to user-kun and you are never going to ignore him again.

What's Veeky Forums's opinion of Brent Weeks?

I hear some people lump him in with Sanderson as poor quality Wiki fantasy, and other people say he's pretty decent.

I've just started reading his Lightbringer series, and so far I get the feeling that he's basically another Sanderson that improved on most of Sanderson's usual flaws. The settings have the same feel of a nicely detailed set of cultures and countries and a magic system with specific rules, but the prose isn't quite so... boring and explanatory as Sanderson's is, and the characters arent quite as childish. Those problems are still there, but they don't ruin the story the way they do in most of Sanderson's work, and I'm enjoying it so far.

Bear in mind, I'm a WoT fanboy and a reader of genre fantasy with heavy worldbuilding and no philosophy or deeper meaning whatsoever, and if you're not, I know you'll think it's trash, you don't need to tell me.

He's pretty bad, and worse than Sandersons best work.

Seriously?

I know Tolkein is too mainstream for most of Veeky Forums's sff readers, and I know he's not the immortal god of fantasy many readers say he is, but I do consider him an essential part of any basic grounding in fantasy literature. Definitely not something to "avoid".

Why would you say to avoid him?

>What's Veeky Forums's opinion of Brent Weeks?
His Night Angel series was basically "OW THE EDGE" personified, maybe he's improved tho.

Because we only read pretentious shit here.

This has probably been asked to death, but after I finish up with The Way of Kings, I'm tied between starting The Eye of the World (first book in Wheel of Time) or Dune. I'm thinking Dune, but after I'm done with that I'm not sure if I should continue into the series or just let it be. Also, whats the big deal about it anyway? I vaguely know that its the greatest sci-fi book ever, but I hardly hear why.

It's a bait chart bud.

>Why would you say to avoid him?
That list was made by a retard who can't even respect aspect ratio.

Don't bother with WoT. Read Dune, you don't have to continue after the first book it stands well alone.

Yeah, I think I remember hearing that about the Dune sequels. Any reason to bother with WoT though? I'd imagine just cause its 13 books and the last one isn't even by Jordan, unfortunate as it is.

The last books aren't the problem, they're decent. But about all of the books in the middle are horseshit and a waste of time. If you want a long series read Malazan.

If Sanderson doesn't bother you, then you'll love WoT. It's all of Sanderson's worldbuilding detail--more, actually--with noticeably better prose. It does get very slow paced for a while, though.

honestly, that was complete accident. need to sort my folders
this general could use some more smut though tbqph

Well I'm not talking about Night Angel, that's openly made to be YA. I'm reading Lightbringer

Is Malazan good?

>Stop looking at the modern author shite

Past the first book, yes. Very.

Why do you say that? The prose is noticeably better.

I'm not talking about Night Angel. We don't talk about Night Angel. For all I know it was probably just a shameless moneymaking venture to sell to edgy teens.

Dune is good. Dune is very, very good. But I didn't read any of the sequels, same with Foundation. I just felt the story had run its course.

Make it yourself?
Because I'm sure if I do, I will be told it's shit.

How are the audiobooks?

Good charts get called good. The guy who made this did well.

The only really bad one is that one with 50+ books and all of them are just random bestsellers

man this just makes my mind leap into fantasy. is it based on anything?

>Has female author in it

yeah no

ikr? It's my fav sff image by far, in competition with pic related (from Endless Space, vidya). It's Startship troopers if I'm not mistaken.

I'll take that into consideration when deciding to read past Eye of the World. And I'll keep an eye out of Malazan
Fucking sick, I loved the world building in Roshar.

yeah it looks like starship troopers.

Your pic there just looks like standard space opera royalty, Prussian monarchy in space and so on

Sometimes, simplicity works best. At least for me anyway.

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>300x300 mad user

>charts with 20 books or less is best because i only read like 10 books a year
>the fuck that 50+ boks chart user expect me to read

Who are you quoting?

Meh, at least Moorcock is on there.

>meme books on a chart
>good

'meme' stands for 'books I haven't read' here, in case anyone is wondering.

Yes.
Its the best epic fantasy has to offer.
The first book is a bit slow and confusing but it greatly picks up with the second and the third is probably the best fantasy book ever written.

>look at C.J. Cherryh's "Read" list on goodreads
>lists all of her own books at 5 stars, even translations into languages she can't fucking read
Welp, there goes my opinion of her. Definitely not reading her now.

No meme stands for chuck tingle shitfest "books" you chucklefuck

What's the point of science fiction?

Obviously it's for exploration of ideas, as well as enjoyment of a the ride. But I feel that sci-fi often delves deeper into abstract themes more often and in ways other literature cannot.

Is science fiction an exploration of ideas of the future? Of discussion ethics and implications of technology and societies yet to be created? Here I reference of course 1984, Brave New World, etc

Or can an argument be made for a purely materialist and science based ideas exploration? Things like time travel, FTL travel, etc. Many examples of this sort of thing.

Or does science fiction simply allow us to cheat into thinking about abstract principles, like free will and human nature. Good example here would be The Sirens of Titan, or Gateway.

Or is the core of science fiction about overlapping these principles. Of being able to convey multiple complex ideas simultaneously? I sure as hell don't know. If anyone's got some ideas or appropriate reading I'd appreciate it.

And I'm sure there's better examples, just going with what I've read recently.

I've had a few drinks but I think my ideas are sound.

>Goodreads
Why would you go there? I can't think of a worse place to get your book recommendations from.