So I'm really getting into noir/hardboiled detective stuff, and I need suggestions besides Hammett and Chandler

So I'm really getting into noir/hardboiled detective stuff, and I need suggestions besides Hammett and Chandler.

James Ellroy

James M. Cain
Mickey Spillane
Jim Thompson
Ross Macdonald
John D. MacDonald

New York Trilogy, if you want postmodern detective metafiction.

Inherent Vice for a postmodern parody

Lot 49 somewhat as well.

Simenon, of course.

Dancing Bear and The Last Good Kiss by James Crumley
True Confessions by John Gregory Dunne

Not hardboiled.

And what does that mean anyway that Simenon doesn't have?

Buy this Library of America box set.

The worst part is that's probably the only library of america purchase a decent chunk of people will make.

you think so? why?

>women crime writers

>women

It's not bad by any means, I haven't read the selection but I'm sure it's great, I mean library of america has a pretty varied collection so it's nice to give more publicity to underrated authors. They've probably published more females in this recent decade 2010 onward then they have in their whole catalog, which isn't bad either, they're a business and like any other business has to appeal to the times.

More like neo-noir here, but did anyone enjoy Chabon's 'The Yiddish Policemen's Union'? I thought it was quite well done, though a bit heavy on the depressed Jew shtick.

>>women crime writers

agatha christie is pretty decent
dorothy sayers is so-so
most of others are bad

idk how popular it is, they havent published a list of their bestselling titles of 2015, but it has only 14 reviews on amazon

they did, however, publish their bestselling titles of 2012 and 2013

>2012
The Philip K. Dick Collection [three volumes, 2007–2009]
American Earth: Environmental Writing Since Thoreau [2008]
Flannery O'Connor: Collected Works [1988]
Raymond Carver: Collected Stories [2009]
H. P. Lovecraft: Tales [2005]

>2013
Kurt Vonnegut: Novels & Stories 1963–1973 [2011, —]
The Philip K. Dick Collection [three volumes, 2007–2009; ranked #1 last year]
Flannery O'Connor: Collected Works [1988; #3]
Jack Kerouac: Road Novels 1957–1960 [2007; #7]
Raymond Carver: Collected Stories [2009; #4]

they listed 15 books for each year, but i posted the top 5

vonnegut, dick, o'connor, kerouac, carver, and lovecraft were their bestsellers in those years, and im sure they continue to sell well

James M. Cain - The Postman Always Rings Twice, Double Indemnity
Jim Thompson - The Killer Inside Me
Richard Stark - The Hunter/Point Blank (and the rest of the Parker series)
James Ellroy - The Black Dahlia, The Big Nowhere
Ross Macdonald - The Chill
Charles Willeford - Miami Blues (and the other Hoke Moseley books)
James Crumley - The Last Good Kiss, The Wrong Case
Dan J. Marlowe - The Name of the Game is Death
Ted Lewis - Jack's Return Home/Get Carter
Elliott Chaze - Black Wings Has My Angel
Jonathan Latimer - Solomon's Vineyard

I haven't read all the books that are included in that set, but these ones are good:
Dorothy Hughes - In a Lonely Place
Vera Caspary - Laura

James Sallis

Nelson Algren
Chester Himes

Is this a joke?

First off, Sayers >>>> Christie. Christie is just awful.

Other good female crime writers include Patricia Highsmith, Daphne Du Maurier, Josephine Tey, Ngaio Marsh, etc. etc.