I'm looking for fiction with the following themes:
Traditionalism
Natural order
Societal homogeneity over heterogeneity
Authority
Conquest
Anti-egalitarian
Nature conservation/worship (Blood and Soil)
Separatism
Any recommendations don't have to have all characteristics and feel free to recommend works that have characteristics I didn't mention but are similar to those I mentioned.
Thanks
just start with the greeks you'll be fine
Literally this.
That was a spicy mehmeh! Have some gold!
Storm of Steel by Junger
Growth of the Soil by Hamsun
Beyond Sing the Woods by Gulbranssen
Things Fall Apart by Achebe
starting with a slight angle variation on the classic smug pepe
and another example of smugness deconstruction
Faggots by that one gay jew. It's exactly what you're looking for.
Hitler
>works that have characteristics I didn't mention but are similar to those I mentioned.
Upboated for defending our safe space :^)
If anything, giving him real /pol/fag recs would be doing that because you homos think this entire site is your alt-right hugbox.
Our whole society is a marxist PC gulag. That's why we need our Danger Space (opposite of safe space), a zone strewn with Truth and Redpills.
>homos
Awful lot of homophobia for a hired SJW!
You and your ilk are the cyber analogs to Trigglypuff, lmao.
As for op Starship Troopers and Lord of the Rings are good starts.
One form of histrionic whining isn't any better than another. You're just as bad as the ess jay dubyous and deserve to be ridiculed exactly as much as they do.
Looks like the gist of this image is "it is wrong to cry and be passionate about something"
Nice
>responding to bait
check my 6
>H-How dare he poke f-fun at my emotions!
Logic and reason's for chumps, amirite?
When you cry because people disagree with you and your passion is convincing people that you're actually a wolf and/or that obesity isn't an indicator of poor health, then yes, those are "wrong" (inb4 Stirner)
They kind of are, t b h. No one reasonable ever gets anything done these days. Sane people are ignored is the new nice guys finish last.
hello trollo
>One form of histrionic whining isn't any better than another.
Trolls have invaded this thread posting nonsense and not offering literature recommendations. If you are uninterested in these topics there are many other topics for you to engage in, just like if Trigglypuff wasnt interested in hearing the views of speakers at a presentation, she could have gone to another.
>All these cucks and nu-males getting btfo
Leftists losing is the greatest tradition of all
muh boogeyman
at least acknowledge the people who disagree with you aren't all obese dragonkin furry, most of them do because you're obnoxious
If you mean high profile, Tom Clancy's better novels are all right wing. The Hunt for Red October, Red Strom Rising, Patriot Games, Clear and Present Danger, and Without Remorse are all good.
There's also William F. Buckley, of course.
But it's a myth to think all writers and creative people lean to the left. This isn't even true in Hollywood. It's just that squaky wheel get all the grease. I've seen estimates that even Hollywood is 40% conservative. In most forms of fiction writing, the left wing, right way numbers break down roughly the same as they do outside of writing.
I've met just as many right wing writers as left wing writers. Most just don't make a show of it. Even science fiction has a healthy share of consrvatives and libertarians.
I think teh perception that the creative fields are filled with those on the left comes about because those on teh left tend to write books, make movies, etc., that expouse their philosophy. Most of those on the right tend to write books and make movies that are simply entertaining.
Though I do sispect that genre matter. Most of the right wing writers I've known write in the mystery/suspense/thriller fields, and most of the left wing writers I've known write in either "literary" or SF genres.
The best right wing books are NOT nonfiction, they are simply books where the writer doesn't believe he has to fill every page with his own personal philosophy.
By and large, I read both types of writers, but when a writer starts beating me over the head with politics or social agendas at the expense of story, I stop reading. Kim Stanley Robinson is unreadable for me simply because everything he writes screams his personal view on everything, and I don't give a damn about his views. I read novels for an entertaining story and good characters, not because I want to hear some idiot expouse political and social agendas.
In other words, I don't care if you're left wing or right wing, don't try to send me a message, don't tell me your philosophy is the correct one, don't try to send me a message that you think will change the world. Shut the hell up and just tell me an entertaining story filled with good characters. It's the story and the characters I want, not your opinion on the world, on Bush, on Clinton, etc. I'm all grown up, I watch the news and read newspapers each and every day, and I probably know at least as much as you do about what's happening in the world. Likely more. I don't need a fiction writer putting a slant on it.
Just tell me a good story, fill it with good characters, and get rid of the notion that I'm going to adjust my philosophy, or change my beliefs, because of anything you write. Preaching to the choir never has done any good, and that's all such writers do.
Tbh
>tfw you'll never live in a traditional classical greek societ
literally nobody is going to read this, what the hell were you thinking?
>triggered /pol/fags desperately trying to save face
I can see the cum dripping from your assholes. The only reason degeneracy triggers you is because you crave it so badly. Real men just laugh at all that bullshit because it doesn't affect them in any way.
>Real men just laugh at all that bullshit because it doesn't affect them in any way.
Yeah, those fags you see in your local Starbucks (with whom you are included) are not real men.
Sorry bub.
The Way of Men - Tribalism
Anything by Wendel Berry - Land/Man relationship
Plato
Lol, life imitates image boards, or is it the other way around... thank you to all the hall monitors of the year for doing your damndest to throw a blanket on this outbreak of wrongthink...
A lot of Mikhail Bulgakov's work leans right. Heart of a Dog comes to mind. You might want to try some of Solzhenitsyn's fictional work, too, although these are really pretty balanced.
ITT: tards feeling persecuted
The Fountainhead?
i read it you cock sucking faggot
Agreed, fuck these drumf voting pieces of shit that want fascism in the usa
fuck off falseflagging trumptard
Is this bait? Because i simply can't believe that there are still people who believe in such ideas in first world countries. How frustrated with your life do you have to be in order to actively look for fiction which promotes "cultural homogenity" or anti-egalitarianism? I mean, even using the world anti-egalitarianism in such a positive context is a sign of immense overestimation of oneself and a superiority complex. Are you saying we should go back to feudalism or what? Because that's what came before equality.
see
sounds good to me, but anyway, got any recommendations ?
>empirical science largely vindicates materialism and the reductionist hypothesis
>therefore physical appearance should determine your worth as a human being
>anybody who defies this and holds up intellect as an independent virtue is obviously just a self-serving cynic who would see civilization in ruins
Jesus Christ, I thought it was only postmodernists who were in the habit of hiding such utter unreasoning non-sequitor with linguistic juggling
Timid young centipede does not approve
And here we see the pseudo-intellect in its natural environment, the self-professed "Bernie Bro" or better yet "informed non-voter" engage in pathologizing of ideas contrary to their worldview.
>Is this bait? Because i simply can't believe that there are still people who believe in such ideas in first world countries.
>"ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!?"
t. Karl
Conservative authors don't tend to write "literary fiction." The genre itself does not tend to lend itself to conservative values and outlooks because it is generally more "emotional" than "cerebral." Conservatives fair better in more cerebral genres such as satire. Most of your great satirists tend to lean to the right (or at least vociferously away from the left): Evelyn Waugh, Herman Wouk, Jane Austen, G.K. Chesterton, C.S. Lewis, Tom Wolfe, Thackery, Jonathan Swift, Nathaniel Hawthorne, George Orwell, Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. (to a degree), etc.
It's tricky to label a "right wing" novel because "right wing" is hard to define. There are 100 shades of conservative, and conservatives argue among one another like cats and dogs; they love intellectual wrestling matches with one another. Do you mean "libertarian"? Well, then, Ayn Rand certainly comes to mind. Anti-communist? You've got Alexander Solzyhneitzhen. You've got George Orwell, but he was a socialist, which is usually considered leftist.
I disagree with the general agreement that novels should not have intellectual content. The novels that have impressed me the most deeply have all had philosophical content--The Brothers Karamazov, Middlemarch, The Fountainhead, Animal Farm, 1984, Brave New World, etc.
But it is true that, in general, left leaning people are more likely to slip thier idealogy into music, film, literature, and indeed every day conversation than are right leaning people. So there may be many more right leaning novelists out there--you just don't know it because they don't make a point of it.
I think almost by defintion, it would be hard to write a great "conservative" novel. I mean that literally. The definition of conservative: "tending to oppose change. Traditional or restrained in style."
Well, if you reject almost all of the great satires...this might be true. The thing is, conservatives only oppose change when the left is not the status quo. And since the left is the status quo in the media and the arts and the academy...well, conservatives are gung ho about change. And they are happy to mock the changes that the left has brought in--thus the satire.
Ayn rand valued ramanticism and the heroic, but I think op is looking for traditionalism and tribalism
>George Orwell
>tend to lean to the right
I stopped reading there because I realize you have no idea what you are talking about and don't want to pick up misinformation from a retard like you
This. Of course, he is a fan of Ayn Rand so rubbish is to be expected.
Literally in next paragraph:
>You've got George Orwell, but he was a socialist, which is usually considered leftist.
And in the first paragraph, he vociferously leaned away from far left (1984)
Fucking typical know it all idiot. Stick to spamming memes and unsolicited political commentary.
>leaned away from far left
Animal farm too
why are people ruining this perfectly fine Veeky Forums thread?
Mods?
why do you even post in this thread you fucking retard?
ALT RIGHT GET OUT
REEEEEEEE
>it's a lets falseflag as /pol/ posters and ruin a thread to prevent /pol/ posters from ruing threads, thread
You mean Veeky Forums posters get out?
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Seriously? Why would you want books on all that /pol/ trash?
Just leave our board honey, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Toodles, mwah.
Joe Haldeman, The Forever War
Robert E. Howard, Conan stories
H.P. Lovecraft, anything really, but particularly the “Cthulhu cycle”
>And since the left is the status quo in the media and the arts and the academy
>neoliberalism
>leftist
W E W
Totalitarianism isn't "far left" - you epic fucking dumbshit.
Don't encourage these people.
They have outdated views and aren't welcome on our board.
If you agree with any of their views, please see the related gif.
>Totalitarianism isn't "far left"
Totalitarianism
Totalitarianism is a political system where the state recognizes no limits to its authority and strives to regulate every aspect of public and private life wherever feasible.
It can be right or left.
What was the ending of animal farm? Wow some are more equal, revolutions fuck up, etc.
He was talking abouta USSR
Ill give you 7/10, not too bad.
OP could check out Ernst Jünger. His best work (in my opinion) isn't fiction but a memoir, but he does have fiction as well. He had a great influence on Heidegger, he would surely fit the bill for OP.
Communism/socialism is, even in the Stalinist form. Particularly so it was in the age when people actually supported the shitty regimes, even overseas. Orwell did criticize that form of system. Playing the "that wasn't true far left!" card is about as pathetic as neoliberals claiming that free market capitalism works but there just hasn't been a real free market so far. Just accept that even good causes can end up bad.
Hard to say, maybe they'll become better if they start to get educated.
Neoliberals, Marxists, Anarchists and cuckservatives are all part of the same United White Genocide Front. Whenever globalism comes under attack, their differences suddenly dissapear and the wagons close in around the thought criminal.
Marxists are anti-globalism you /pol/tard.
all neo nazis and /pol/lacks hate cops
did you even research before making this unfunny garbage?
3/10
Spooked
Excuse me bitch. Not everyone on this site wants to stick to the rules of your right wing hug box, don't be surprised when you see people who aren't sucking Donald Trump's dick. Don't assume I'm trolling because I'm not licking the boots of authority, or being horribly racist to people who've done nothing wrong aside from be born the "wrong" colour.
Incase you idiots haven't realised, we should judge people as individuals, not on their race or some arbitrary thing like that. Now, please honey, leave, you're kind of views aren't welcome here.
Okay this is getting so shitty that I'll abandon this thread now.
you aren't welcome on this website
all anonymous imageboards across the web are almost always right-wing, from the Japanese ones to the German ones.
Fuck off and die
Fuck off, retard, Veeky Forums is a community of posters that don't browse the rest of the site.
>therefore physical appearance should determine your worth as a human being
Not what he's saying though, the video de-contextualised it too much.
actually we do? Please go back to where you came from, you aren't welcome here
That comic is an awfully logical and reasonable comic, you raise a good point.
There's nothing logical or reasonable about using personal insults to dismiss anyone with whom you disagree, whether that be calling them a racist or calling them a cuck.
People who resort to name calling so often should be laughed at.
Yawn.
Just to let you know, real men have no need for right wing politics to feel male, because they have confidence, tolerance, and respect - the three male traits. No real man would ever value what OP posted. Oops! Hit a nerve?
Are you sure about that? Since when is the working class uniting over nationalism to defeat capitalism everywhere not globalism?
No we don't, you aren't one of us
spooky
>Communism/socialism is, even in the Stalinist form.
Leftism, at its core, is about dissolving concentrated power of all kinds - economic, political, social. It's about tearing down hierarchies. Autocratic rule requires concentrating power in the hands of a few, and is thus the very opposite of a leftist utopia.
>Orwell did criticize that form of system.
Yeah, because he was a leftist.
>Playing the "that wasn't true far left!" card is about as pathetic as neoliberals claiming that free market capitalism works but there just hasn't been a real free market so far. Just accept that even good causes can end up bad.
No, that analogy doesn't work. When free marketeers object to the current state of affairs, they say it is not pure enough in its implementation. In contrast, leftists do not criticize Stalinism for not going far enough; rather, they object to the very notion of totalitarianism.
You, me, and that other guy have all read it. So that's 3.
been posting here since the beginning
Go back to redit
Discrimination is based on logic and statistic. Science teaches us that some races of people have lower IQs and are more prone to criminality. It's indisputable. The difference between right wingers and leftists, is that we choose Reals over Feels. Leftism is but an infantile denial of truth and science, Transgenderism, marxist economics, egalitarianism and 'anti-racism' it's a patters
Quit lying, you aren't fooling anyone.
>one of us
haha oh wow
Awful, you went overboard.
3/10, best I can do.
>you ain't welcome here
Unfortunately for you, no matter how much you disagree with someone, terriritorialist statements will never work on an anonymous message board from seeing things you don't like or disagree with (which in this case is actually probably trolls). If you can't deal with that and need to call me a cuck, either do that or go outside. Whichever makes you happy. You lose either way.
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why are you even posting in this thread?
Fuck off and die
kys retarded reactionary
lol nah
I'm staying here and i'm not going anywhere :) go be autistic somewhere else though lol
>Playing the "that wasn't true far left!" card
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
What, in your mind, are necessary and sufficient conditions to consider something "far-left"?
Which, of course, you should at least have in an approximate sense or you're clearly using it as an utterly meaningless political slur
>I'm looking for fiction that either treats the traditionalist and naturalistic fallacies as a valid intellectual framework or that I can misconstrue as such.
Lmao. Look at all these keyboard warriors trying to look macho.
Try getting some sex in your life. Ooh better yet! Get a life!
my man
You mean:
My racist, reactionary Japanese guy who's culture I appropriate?
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The alt-left doesn't visit this site, the lack of a downvote button is too triggering.
Literally everyone posting in this thread is trolling
ie. fascists are mentally ill and their politics are merely an expression of their fucked up psychosexual hang ups
not him but i don't "appropiate" his culture, i just like his style. He was a very interesting man
>the media and the arts
Neoliberalism is dominant in foreign policy and international finance not the media and arts rofl ...
Um, if you're not him, then, er, don't reply to me?
Bingo.
what are you still doing in this thread, manlet?