Instead of buzzwords and memes...

Instead of buzzwords and memes, please could people articulate clearly exactly why they enjoy or dislike/hate Cormac McCarthy's works?

Repeating "Tortilla YeCarthy is a hack" doesn't quite get your point across, my main man.

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Tortilla YeCarthy is a hack

Tortilla YeCarthy is a hack

Tortilla YeCarthy is a hack

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Writes in a way that makes this weird metaphysical connection between man, the earth, and the ubiquity of evil. Paints the world as a place of supreme disorder, but does so in a way that places man at the poetic epicenter of the chaos in that he is capable of aestheticizing the evil

This. I haven't ever articulated it, but this is precisely what I feel when reading some of his works. And for him to bring something as abstract as that and have it interweaved into, say, the low, monotonous, incredibly materialist world of Suttree in a cohesive fashion is attractive to me in more ways than one.

nicely put, user.

Why do people say tortilla yecarthy? I've read Outer Dark, Child of God, The Road and Blood Meridian and it's only Blood Meridian where he even brings up tortillas.

is suttree better than the road in your opinoins

The Border Trilogy and NCFOM are also set in the American Southwest / Mexico.

His prose is lifted from Faulkner and Melville.

His novels are boring.

It's more the second one, though. Banal ideas, unoriginal prose, wooden dialogue, it can all be excused if the author in question can write a good story. McCarthy cannot.

suttree has the hard edged prose of blood meridian. it's one of his best, if not the best McCarthy book.

he's a corncobber senpai.

do you just not read a lot? this is such a trite and cliche thing but you seem to think it's some novel amazing writing

his prose is definitely inspired by a degree of "southern gothic" but it's definitely not "lifted." you need to take a step back and consider who inspired Faulkner and Melville.

and no...McCarthy's stories are never plot-driven...being instead character-driven...as what you'd normally find in superior literary fiction, you philistine.

>superior literary fiction
>you philistine

/reddit/ is the other way, m'fedora -tips-

Because all he does is write overwrought descriptions of the scenery inbetween disingenuously folksy dialogue and character interactions where people just spit or say ye before maybe killing someone 200 pages later. He desperately tries to make his writing look important by making it vaguely "biblical" instead of actually saying or doing anything with it. It's a scam and plenty of people who should've known better have fallen for it.

So that's why Corncob Tortillas YeCarthy is a hack.

What is a corncobber, user? Please specify, I don't understand how "corncobber" is pejorative.

parochial fiction limited to a very narrow region that fails to say anything universal or insightful or otherwise interesting for people who don't live the experience. it's hick "literature" that is patronized by the "elites" to show how cultured and worldly they are.

>character driven

Okay, hit me with McCarthy's best character. Explain to me how mature and open-hearted McCarthy's understanding of other people is.

>Explain to me how mature and open-hearted McCarthy's understanding of other people is
He's not a fucking advice columnist.

I read quite a bit, actually. I tried to describe as best I could why I like his writing, maybe it wasn't a well written explanation but I am a big fan of his. I don't understand the 'corncobber' thing either

You seem dumb. I will not take your opinion seriously

I think you fail to grasp McCarthy's writings, or you have not read them. You may have gotten 50 pages into Blood Meridian and quit or something.

ah yes, the old "you just didn't get it" defense.

how about you name a character you have a problem with and i'll tell you how you're an idiot.

ready? go.

I am reading The Road right now and I can't see how it could be called character driven. The man barely has any depth or thoughts and the kid is just a normal kid.
I think what makes the book pretty good is the flow of narration and the descriptions. It's also short, so you can tell the narrator didn't really mean it to be anything more than that.

different user, but Billy Parham from the Crossing. A teen caught up in the vicissitudes of harsh reality when he is forced to bring a Wolf back to the mountains of mexico. The Wolf is captured by the military police of a mexican village and forced into dogfights until it is killed in front of him. Defeated, he returns home to a ransacked house with his parents slaughtered and only his younger brother still alive. They now aimlessly travel between the American/Mexican border in search of some vague sense of purpose or belonging, experiencing mostly hostility peppered with small pockets of relief and beauty.

If you can't see how that perfectly encapsulates the human experience of being subject to the larger tectonic shifts of fate and circumstance, I can't help you.

see this is the problem. People read like half of one of McCarthy's books and feel entitled to pass judgement on him as an author despite many of his works being entirely distinct from one another in their approach

the road is his worst book

which is saying something considering how shitty the rest of his stuff is

suttree is passable. his best by far.

the road is not typical of McCarthy. I liked it despite being divisive amongst fans.

no...there is a lot of stuff going on. a lot of it is cryptic for sure. the way his wife's suicide is told as one example. the last paragraph as another.

for character driven McCarthy try, "blood meridian" or "suttree" which are his best and represent what he is most known for...

but border trilogy is probably my favorite to read/reread.

Tortilla "Corncobs, landscape description, no grammar" YeCarthy is a hack and a charlatan

Trump 2016

So is this just another thread of one autistic loser spamming corncob? 32 replies, 14 unique posters

I don't see how any of that makes Billy a good character. Bad stuff happens to him, good stuff happens to him, he is at odds with society and the people around him... typical literary stuff.

I find Edith Stoner to be a good example of a complex, sympathetic character. She's an interesting look at unconscious early life traumatic programming wrestling with the person she wants to be. What does an abused girl think of men when she grows up? About her husband? About a relationship between her daughter and husband? Did she truly love William? Did she truly love Grace? Did this abuse influence her opinion of her husband's affair?

Encouraging greater discussion about ourselves, each other and the things a person can go through in a life is what makes a character good. What questions do Billy (or any of McCarthy's characters) ask of us?

I've only read The Road and I hated it because of the short and choppy sentences.

>hurrrr it must b 1 guy
Eat shit, tortillafucker.

someone link to my bloodmeme video review

youtube.com/watch?v=dEVX42Pg1xw

Do the meme trilogy or Women And Meme (if you can steal a copy) next.

Ugh not again. Don't you have some Ritalin to take?

lmao

retard

meme should be wordfiltered to something Japanese. mono 物 (thing) or densetsu 伝説 (legend) maybe.

or "meme" should be filtered completely so no posts can be made if it contains the word

we'd cut down on shitposting cancer by 50%

I'm all for that!

You retards do realize that people would just space it out into m e m e or some such shit, right?

Twitterspeak has declined significantly since the latest wordfilters came in

filter that too

basically just delete anybody from existence that promotes ironic meme culture, it's just as bad as third-wave feminism

Yep. I didn't think it'd work to the degree it did.

I like this video because corncobbers get so upset by it. they start attacking the way he looks and other shit. lmao pseuds = BTFO

>ironic meme culture
>third-wave feminism
You sound like a literal meme yourself though. You'd be deleted too.

Are you a woman?

Corncob "Tortillas" Yecarthy only knows how to write dusty yarns about spitting and murder. A favorite among inner city nu-male pseuds who want to feel like they're diversifying their intellect.

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I liked the Nabokov version more.

>Tortillas Yecarthy, Corncob. A puffed-up peddler of yarns about spitting and murder. A total charlatan.

Or something.

Are you seriously that pathetically lonely that you need to bump a dead thread with your memes to squeeze out a few (You)'s for attention?

You've become quite a meme yourself, Mr. Gets triggered by corncob memes

>ah yes, the old "you just didn't get it" defense

My friend, Blood Meridian, All the Pretty Horses, No Country for Old Men--they all explicitly ruminate on universals, to the point where it's something McCarthy is actually criticized for. The only book by him that could be called regional is maybe Suttree. It's plainly obvious you haven't read him.

lol what a faggot

I hate mexicans.

Also, he's a fucking bore.

>58 replies
>29 posters
Not even Gassposter is this bad.

Seriously. Can the YePoster please stop?

ah, blood meridian, monsieur? that novel is the sark and chaparral of literature, the filament whereon rode the remuda of highbrow, corraled out of some destitute hacienda upon the arroya, quirting and splurting with main and with pyrolatrous coagulate of lobated grandiloquence. our eyes rode over the pages, monsieur, of that slatribed azotea like argonauts of suttee, juzgados of swole, bights and systoles of walleyed and tyrolean and carbolic and tectite and scurvid and querent and creosote and scapular malpais and shillelagh. we scalped, monsieur, the gantlet of its esker and led our naked bodies into the rebozos of its mennonite and siliceous fauna, wallowing in the jasper and the carnelian like archimandrites, teamsters, combers of cassinette scoria, centroids of holothurian chancre, with pizzles of enfiladed indigo panic grass in the saltbush of our vigas, true commodores of the written page, rebuses, monsieur, we were the mygale spiders too and the devonian and debouched pulque that settled on the frizzen studebakers, listening the wolves howling in the desert while we saw the judge rise out of a thicket of corbelled arches, whinstone, cairn, cholla, lemurs, femurs, leantos, moonblanched nacre, uncottered fistulas of groaning osnaburg and kelp, isomers of fluepipe and halms awap of griddle, guisado, pelancillo.

i was waiting for it

Charlie McCarthy is the finest literary artist of our time.

To rebut the and and and and + muh thesaurus...

One must realize Charlie operates out of immersion, very much so, like his father Faulkner, so the declarative style works to an end: to create a cinematic stream. From within this framework, he, like his grandfather Melville, knows truth is only possible in lightning flashes. It isn't about "original ideas", it is about guiding the reader into a place, supressing the ego with this cinematic stream, that allows for the reader to be a genuine receipient of the poetic and philosophical. He places you in a prayerful state. Much of his quick hits of philosophy are indeed somewhat truisms, and his poetry sometimes over the top, but that is not the point, the point is the power they carry within this aesthetic framework. For the thesaurus claims, in the modern world, to reconcile man and nature one must rename the holy. The green grass does not do.

Pa. Why are eggs breakfast?

What.

You can put bacon on lunch.

Ye.

But if you put eggs on stuff it becomes breakfast?

The man spat and said the eggs are not for this world or from this world they come from the chicken but the chicken knows it not.

He wiped his chin and spat.

a 12 year old can understand stoner, you misunderstood The Crossing completely

maybe some day you will be able to read

Looks like somebody wiped your tortilla the wrong way.

I hate how everyone makes this Melville connection. I've only read Moby-Dick so I might not have read the right books but McCarthy's prose is nothing like Melville's.

I actually like McCarthy, and will admit he is dry. Melville is completely hilarious about half the time.

>but you seem to think it's some novel amazing writing

He articulated a possible method to McCarthy's work and reason why he enjoys it. There is no reason to infer from this that he thinks "it's some novel amazing writing", except that you are a histrionic cunt who is so insecure and intellectually impoverished that you bulwarks your stupidity with brainless sentiments like "this is trite and cliche", and then lash out at whatever target for which you've been provided a platitude like "he's a corncobber".

You're a smelly neckbeard meme fag

I'm willing to sacrifice myself for the greater good.

As a Cormac McCarthy fan, this review is pretty funny. I love Blood Meridian but he's quite a funny guy.

People call McCarthy fans pseuds and memes but it's more often than not the anti-McCarthy types that spout the memes and shitposting.

Not even mad, just disappointed and wondering why these people need to rely on pastas rather than forming their own opinions on the writer after reading his work.

nah it's pretty cringe desu

t. pseud

samefag

>Not even mad

That's bullshit considering how you maje sure to throw a fit every single thread, you corncobbing pseud.

lmao that description is 100% story.

i'm a proud corncobber but you're a silly duffer.

as the creator of that video, I'd like to say it was meant to be that way. it was /lit in video form. which is very scary. I used our buzzwords like

subvocalize
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meme
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corncob
corncobber
tortillas
tortilla'd
tortilla
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YeCarthy
genre trash
spit
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reading for plot
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and many more. lol we are that embarrassing. but seriously though that book fucking sucks fuck you guys for tricking me into reading it.

You shouldn't really generalise all Cormac McCarthy fans as just one person. I don't know what other posts you're referring to but they were not me.

I thought you said you wouldnt blame four chan for your own reading of it. it's not anybody's fault other than your own if you didn't enjoy it.

I was lying.
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If you're bent on really being a memester you should review shit like Tai Pei then that 99cent ebook about Tao Lin on a Tricycle for contrast. If you really committed to this that way then I might actually buy your shit.

I'm really not committed

McCarthy fans are always so bad at literature discussion.

Too bad then.

committed enough to print tshirts no one will buy

they're gonna be sick bro. they say "get /lit faggot"

get /lit on the front
faggot on the back

I'll send you one

>someone articulates an actual opinion on why they like McCarthy
>you respond with memes and copypasta
>call them pseuds for trying to actually discuss literature

>you dismiss his works as parochial
>call other people elitists

I mean it's fine and all I guess as long as you know you're the one dragging the tone of the discussion down.

I mean I think it's fairly obvious that you're not interested in changing your mind, but if any part of you is open to an actual answer to this question then here you go: Suttree is a wholly character driven novel centring on a man who has dropped out of his privileged life and abandoned his family, driven by a craving for personal autonomy and authenticity. He has opted out of comfort and security and run away from his responsibilities in favour of a shiftless and precarious existence in the margins of society. There's a conflict at his core between his compassion and simple humanity, and his refusal to be tied down in a responsible social position where he feels like those qualities of compassion and humanity are stifled and abused.

There were actual non-memetic opinions on why he sucks too. They were also dismissed by corncobbers like you. Memes are all you tortillafuckers deserve.

>we

I'm not your friend

>It's a "Guy who posts shitty youtube video confirmed for mentally ill" episode

lol dude your vocabulary is like 9 words, half of them variations of meme and tortilla. Is this what living on Veeky Forums does to a person?

Why is Cormac McCarthy such a contentious subject? You'd think we were on /v/ from the level of venom in this thread.

mccarthy is the new dfw. pretentious pseudointellectual entry level drivel that plebs try to pat themselves on the back for appreciating and they sperg the fuck out when people arent worshipping corncobs.

Ah, memes. They are the food of the wise man but the liquor of the fool

I don't understand. I just want to know why people get so worked up over stuff like this. I mean, go read a book. Wouldn't that be a better use of your time?

lol

You better start believing in meme stories, my friend. You're in one!