>mfw this was even easier than Dubliners
Mfw this was even easier than Dubliners
>reading is a competition between the author and the reader
are you dumb lad
That's what Joyce is famous for
Only among plebs
pleb
wew
I hate stream of conscious, the only other book I hate more is Billy's budd.
I actually thought the same thing, mostly because like half of the stories in Dubliners are kind of boring.
The Sisters, Eveline, After the Race, A Little Cloud, The Dead and the pedophile one as well as maybe a few others I'm forgetting were all god-tier though
Isn't that basically all of them
That was intentional on Joyce's part. His original version of it, "Stephen Hero" was going to be a lot longer and more complex but he scrapped and reworked it into the simpler Portrait so that it'd be published. If you want Joyce at his Joyciest, read Ulysses and Finnegans Wake.
its not easy tho, maybe at surface level but what about those philosophical references, at the end of book, or things that had place in ireland
t. pseud
Why did he think anyone cared about his life?
Can I read Finnegans before Ulysses
I have both, but Finnegans attracts me considerably more for some reason
Definitely Ulysses first.
fug
why
It was a comfy and feelsy read
What are some films that are like this book?
You actually can, because it's meant to be readable by anyone in its own convoluted way, but if you do, reading Ulysses afterwards will feel like a downgrade.
Because Ulysses is the day
Finnegans Wake is the night.
I DON'T KNOW, CAN YOU?
sorry
I'd tell you to read Ulysses first, if only to get a feel for his wacky fuckery. After Ulysses, FW will still be interesting, while the inverse might not be true.
Fair enough
Not an argument
bump
Which one had a pedophile?
It gets more difficult as he gets older
I had no idea what was going on when he was talking about Aquinas and that near the end
if you love the sound of language then you should be fine with Finnegans.
Ulysses is a bit more grounded. the words will be a lot more familiar to you than the made up ones in Finnegans
yeah now that I think about it
I was thinking about the one where the guy jerks off in front of the main characters, An Encounter
Yeah that was a nice progression, I want to read the texts he discussed now
That's the way it seems to me. I think for that reason I will probably read Finnegans first, in spite of the sound advice in this thread
>A LIttle Cloud
This is basically Veeky Forums the story
chicken and the egg
>not A Painful Case
>>not A Painful Case
My god that one was depressing.
>not that feeling of frustration, isolation, loneliness and failure at the end of Araby
>not the feeling of overwhelming apprehension, anxiety and paralysis at the end of Eveline
why failure? wasn't it just a kid who wanted to check out a bazaar? I forget what happened already
he wanted to get a gf but tfw no gf
this really made me laugh
thanks, nice dubs
Wanted to get a trinket for the girl he was obsessed with from the bazaar. His dad got home late and he couldn't go until tea was over so when he arrived at the bazaar it was closed and all the shops were shut
>Veeky Forums is a board full of people too scared to go out in the world and experience change, trapping them in their unfulfilling lives
Sounds about right
Also don't forget the older girl who laughs at him at the bazaar, I think it's Joyce hinting at his future failure with/betrayal by women. Pretty much REEEEEEEEEEEE: the short story.
Dubliners does feel a bit >projecting
Not sure what you mean, do you mean Joyce seems to be projecting his own anxieties onto random dubliners? Or are you insinuating that I'M projecting my own insecurities onto the short stories? Because yeah I probably am
I meant Joyce projecting, but to be fair a lot of the stories are very relatable (especially to the type of people who frequent Veeky Forums)
t b h the type of person who browses Veeky Forums is pretty much the type of person Joyce was except minus the genius part
>yfw if Joyce was around today he'd waste his time on Veeky Forums and not get anything (except shitposts) written
I wonder how many Joyces are going to waste because of this site
well there's me, for one
wow, me too!
Another Joyce reporting in.
>I will probably read Finnegans first,
loving every laugh
why
fuckim, bruh. you read FW if you choose. Good luck my cosmonaut friend.
Thanks, friend
You guys should see some of the shitposts I come up with.
t. Joyce
do u realize how difficult it is
I wonder how many people on here can actually say they have """""""""""read"""""""""""" FW
I do, that's what makes me so interested in it
nice trips
Is there anything like the end of this book where there's a mix between philosophic and dramatic dialogue, yet also retaining an internal voice? The only thing I can think is similar is the drama-novel hybrid of Dostoevsky and Plato's dialogues.
The Long Day Closes
An Encounter
If joyce was around today do you think he'd ever wander into the "jewish district" like in portrait or would his awkwardness regulate that he watch internet porn all day?
He'd definitely stay at home watching scat
are dubliners' stories connected to each other? I thought they weren't and read only one and left it there
Don't think so
No. Some characters reappear in Ulysses but that's sort of it.
I think the house of the priest from the first story is used in other stories. They all share ideas but not necessarily plot.
dude feels and missed opportunities lmao
;_;