I don't like either of the current poetry recommendation charts and want to make a new one based on eras/styles/movements. Does anyone want to help?
I don't like either of the current poetry recommendation charts and want to make a new one based on...
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I kind of get Dylan, but 2pac is just another meme, right?
>does anyone want to help?
not really but if you have questions i can answer
4chanlit.wikia.com/poetry
Hopefully. The chart in OP is the chart I'm trying to replace.
Yeah, I know about the wikia, will be using it as a general guideline for the chart. I'm trying to figure out if the chart should just be divided by style/movement or be a flowchart. Which would you recommend?
flowcharts are too demanding, getting into poetry isn't something rigid like that, no matter how much I'd like to say that my way of learning is the correct process. probably best to divide it according to some other means but that'll take more work. your chart, up to you, i don't care
These charts need some John Motherfucking Donne
Am currently working on it with a focus on western poetry but I can't decide - should the entries on this chart mainly be works by great and well-known poets or simply the greats and well-knowns themselves?
When will you leak us your flower folder, flowerposter?
Isn't this one already made.
This was the other poetry chart I was saying I dislike. It's okay but could be much more in-depth.
jesus i haven't been here in months and you're still here asking for my folder. you're persistent. you could've made your own by now
it's easier to just paste in a picture of a poet than it is picking his books and then a cover of it, especially considering a lot of poets have their work spread out in various places besides their own collections. much simpler to just encourage someone to get a complete works of so and so even if they're not going to read the entire oeuvre.
What's the point of poetry? I understand that it can be profound but I really just don't like it. I don't like that it's always in code and you have to slowly decipher it and by the time you translate the entire thing into something comprehensible, the meaning has been lost.
And when you do understand the sentiment, when does it become enjoyable? During the dissection?
I dunno, I reckon Tupac can have some depth and emotion
>I understand that it can be profound but I really just don't like it. I don't like that it's always in code and you have to slowly decipher it and by the time you translate the entire thing into something comprehensible, the meaning has been lost.
that's the joy of it.
kek.
Give it some time.
I haven't been here for months either, our visitations coincide with each other.
>Whitman in entry level and levelled up-tier
big things few words, excluding narrative poetry
it's complicated because much of the time it's condensing novel sized ideas into a 14 line sonnet, or whatever. just like if you took a football field sized block of something and smushed it up and condensed it into a golf ball size thing, you can imagine.
but like anything not all poems are the same. you can't really ask what poetry is or what its purpose is because "poetry" isn't definable like that, each poem is its own thing. you can ask what the point of a certain poet is or why a poem is written like this or that, i guess. but you already knew that, yeah?
besides, like poetry people are different too. some of us like esoteric lateral uses of a word and we like to study how the poet used it and why, it's rewarding and exciting and personally gives me ideas for my own writing. might be everyone who likes dense poetry is autistic, who knows. what's the point of novels, right?
it's a meme chart but i did that on purpose
>it's easier to just paste in a picture of a poet than it is picking his books and then a cover of it, especially considering a lot of poets have their work spread out in various places besides their own collections. much simpler to just encourage someone to get a complete works of so and so even if they're not going to read the entire oeuvre.
Okay, will be doing that unless there isn't a complete works of specific poets available. Homer's a complete works guy. Ovid isn't. Should the Metamorphoses get a spot or the erotic poems?
>2 times Whitman in entirely different places
(or am I an illiterate who misses something? They look like the same Whitman.)
Whitman should transcend the concept of levels
both or neither but metamorphoses if you're asking, much more important
i can help, i am knowledgeable in modernism and american modernist movements
This is a masterpiece of modern poetry.
i bet you will overestimate the significance of american free style poets in your chart
This was already revealed to be a troll chart.
you can't overestimate Whitman considering he's the greatest poet since Shakespeare