Which philosopher has had the greatest influence on Veeky Forums, or on you personally?

I agreed with Nietzsche on pretty much everything, except his notion that determinism means the end of responsibility.

Man can do what he wills, but he cannot will what he wills.

You just have to believe in it and it'll become true. Actually the people who wrote it were inspired by god who revealed himself to them. And He told them the redpill. That's why niggers and faggots are condemned. They're closer to animal than divine Being. See how liberalism has run amok, women with blacks etc. it's disgusting.

Trump will save us. Praise KEK

>You just have to believe in it and it'll become true.

There are some people who probably do believe this. Fucking Kierkegaard.

For me it is Hegel and Nietzsche, and their successors. For me it is the major split in the Western tradition today, and whoever can reconcile them will 'win' philosophy for this generation.

To put it in a way horribly simplified (obviously the trees branch out, and I am interested in the other branches too -- most impressively absent is the French lineage going through Sartre, Lacan, Debord, Baudrillard) there are two grand lineages operating at the moment, on the order of :

Hegel --> Young Hegelians --> Marx --> Zizek. I will call this the Red tradition. It influences the socialist Left, the totalising left, the grand systemic left. It is interested only at the highest levels, societies, histories, collectivities. It has no time for the individual.

Then there is Nietzsche --> Heidegger --> Foucault/Deleuze. I call this the Black (anarchist) tradition, because it is concerned with the individual and the nature of their entrapment within power flows. Lots of other anarchists I won't mention here are also Nietzsche-inspired.

The Hegelian is about negation-unification, teleology, and trying to see it all as one system. The Nietzschean is about affirmation-splintering, anti-teleological, and about trying to hold on for the ride as our reality and social body increasingly fractures and fragments. I like both a lot.

I read Nietzsche when I was about 20-22, and his views influenced me a lot. Recently I have been going into Hegel and Marx and their successors, and I am finding not so much a 'disagreement' but a tension, a dialectical kinda thing. It is fascinating and I hope we will have some kind of movement on this front in my lifetime.

Honourable mention: Wittgenstein (for killing the foundations of analytical philosophy stone dead, TWICE), Whitehead (for inventing Hegelianism in reverse before he died as a fuggg u to Russell), Spinoza

>being this reductive

Back to reedit kid.

Also Marx was a retard like the rest of ths leftist cucks

>Nietzsche --> Heidegger --> Foucault/Deleuze.

How did you miss the biggest part of this evolution?

I mean, of course, the guy Nietzsche plagiarized.

>Wittgenstein (for killing the foundations of analytical philosophy stone dead, TWICE)

How'd he do that? Tractatus seems pretty mathematical/analytical to me.

He's a leftist cuck, don't respond to him

I said I knew I was being reductive, fuck you I am trying to explain years of my life in a single post. Also how did you miss the entire non-Leftist half of my explanation?

I am unsure if you're trolling and pretending to be a Rightist, but I have also read/enjoyed Evola, have an interest in Traditional belief systems, and I'm not uncritical of the Left and SJWism and all that shit.

I think everyone today should be critical of capitalism, but how you do that is still an open question.

Also stop saying cuck.

You'll note I mentioned the Young Hegelians specifically, and Stirner is a pretty powerful reaction to/part of their history.

I read Ego and his Own years ago, and I like Stirner (as an individualist-anarchist thinker), but come on m8 he's not part of an influential lineage and if N. read him, he certainly didn't steal him wholesale.

>capitalism is bad, guys!
>Posted from my brand new iPhone

Libcuck 'logic' everyone

Oh come on man, stop being a parody of yourself. I think you're actually just trolling now. If so good job, but you're giving me a good opportunity to explain myself.

Even Hitler himself spoke fucking volumes about the evils of capitalism and the way it poisons the Volk, encourages degeneracy and destroys cultures and relationships. There's a reason he despised a race full of bankers and merchants -- I just think the problem has more to do with banking and merchanting than anyone's particular genetic origins.

>I think everyone today should be critical of capitalism

This. I'm pretty fashy, personally, but I gotta hand it to the Neo-Liberals: making people think that social conservatism and Free Marketeering/Consumerism/Globalism/etc are one in the same, was the biggest con of our time.

Pic related is a good summary.

>wanting capitalism without banking and merchanting

Kek. I'm hitler and I want modern industry and technological development without capitalism
You've been fooled kid

>modern industry and technological development without capitalism

That's socialism m8. National or otherwise, that's called socialism.

Also I hope you're enjoying your Sunday Night Trolling.

Schopenhauer; Voltaire. I try to use my shitposting powers for good but there really isn't any.

Oh yeah and socialism has worked so well yeah? Fucking idiot, go to North Korea and have a look. Or the death tolls of Mao, Stalin, pol pot. Or look at modern Sweden and it's degeneracy. Or South America falling apart.

You're an intellectual insect

How about making fun of the

> PROFANE
> GERMAN
> PRINCIPALITIES

Not him, but I can't tell if you're trolling. Are you ?

Are you being ironic? You can claim your prize now if you want, because you've succeeded in fucking up a potentially good thread

I've succeeded in making every thread about nigger or roastwhore authors into redpill threads over the last six months. You will never have your plebbit hugbox again

kek. yeah, it's kind of hard not to cite nietzsche too after them, but i arrived at him after their influence already prejudiced me towards that. there should be some hipster badge for my kind with "i hated germany before it was a country" i do like heidegger for his german backwoods though, he's just useless for polemic compared with his students

I am trying to engage with you, you prick. I'm trying to have a 'redpilled' discussion with you. I've mentioned my respect for Hitler and Evola.

I'm on your side, mate -- I want to discuss everything openly and expose all the bullshit. I'm anti-SJW, I'm personally fairly conservative, and I am in a committed relationship with a White girlfriend, if it matters to you.

From your own perspective, can't you see that immigration, liberal-feminism, and so on are all products of capitalism? Can't you see that the destruction of the traditional family was caused by technological-capitalistic developments and imposed on us by a powerful clique of rich men right at the top?

What is your positive aim? Not just to knock down, but what do you want to advance, to build up? What kind of world do you want to build?

>can't you see that immigration, liberal-feminism, and so on are all products of capitalism? Can't you see that the destruction of the traditional family was caused by technological-capitalistic developments and imposed on us by a powerful clique of rich men right at the top?

You sure are 'redpilled' lmao. You sound like Bernout scum.

Political correctness, multiculturalism, and women in the work force etc have nothing to do with capitalism, ad EVERYTHING to do with Bolshevik Jews aka Communist subversion of western civilization
If we got rid of Jews, capitalism would function without that sort of degeneracy

You read plato first right? And all the Greeks?

I'd feel bad for people influenced by people who they don't completely understand.

So you're an anti-semite, but only an anti-Bolshevik one? What about rich Jews, or modern cases like Madoff? Have you considered that the 2008 collapse of Goldman-Sachs probably wasn't caused by gentiles?

I'm not a communist and I'm not a Bolshevik. Lenin, Stalin, and Trotsky were shits, and should be fought to the last breath and the last drop of blood.

Read Kieerkangeard

>it's anti Semitic to point out that Jews are in power and subverting western civilization through cultural MARXISM

It's a literal fact. Your feelings getting hurt have nothing to do with it, sweetheart

Nice non-answer.

Also I've read the Frankfurt school, who are constantly accused of being Jewish Cultural Marxists, and what I found in Adorno (their leader) was a bunch of praise for classical music and Traditional culture, general hatred of modernity, feminism and modern mass-culture, and a paragraph in Minima Moralia where he literally says that Negroes should not be told they are the equals of the White man because that would be a lie.

It's a fucking myth. Cultural Marxism is a shitty myth. Once you read the source materials, you discover a bunch of shit wrong with them, but these CultMarx attacks are just shitty noise.

So I supposed to be against capitalism now? What about my vote for trump then?

Fucking retard

Don't argue with /pol/tards, they work with emotions only, not facts

There is nothing the medium of text can do to sway their world view

What did Adorno say about feminism?

Not 'against', just 'critical of'.

Trump's entire message is HIGHLY critical of neoliberal capitalism -- making America great again by enacting protectionism to ensure American jobs and all that shit.

As you can see by the huge attacks on Trump, this scares the fuck out of the capitalist class because it means they'll have to pay American wages instead of Taiwanese wages.

Marx himself said, in the Communist Manifesto:
> [Capitalism], during its rule of scarce one hundred years, has created more massive and more colossal productive forces than have all preceding generations together.

He was praising the fuck out of it as much better than anything that came before it.

But this doesn't mean we can't be critical of it. We should analyse capitalism and -- like Trump -- be really fucking skeptical of Establishment views of how things should work.

Yeah I know, feels > reals

Please appreciate that I am arguing with a /pol/tard. He mentions a few points in his Culture Industry essays about how capitalism is 'feminine', and has taken over women as the ideal consumers all the better to market towards.

Joke's on you, I have around 600 infographics and YouTube links that'll back up any redpilled claim I make

That sounds reasonable. Are you for getting women back to being housekeepers and for racemixing to stop? You sound pretty levelheaded, but these are important issues to me

>these are the people I discuss literature with

You attended or are attending a higher education institution of some kind yes? You've been brainwashed by Marxist professors

I am in favour of allowing women to choose -- GENUINELY CHOOSE -- the jobs they are best suited for.

You know, there will always be a good chunk of women who are actually the equal of men, and deserve to be part of public society, go to University, whatever. I'm not such a traditionalist that I want to rob them of that.

But the cultural propagation of a bunch of 'BE A STRONG WOMYN, WORK FOR CAPITALISM' is just as much a bag of shitty propaganda as "BUY A BIG CAR" was in the 50s or "DON'T QUESTION THE KING" was 100 years ago.

We're also in a funny situation where a lot of the 'wage gap' is explained by underpaying the women doing domestic and childcare work... in order to cover for the women doing bullshit professional work like marketing consultants for Facebook.

That's not an intelligent allocation of social labour for anyone.

As for racemixing, look. I care a hell of a lot more about the quality of the guy that my little sister (or eventual daughter) dates than I do about his racial makeup. I'd much rather a solid, traditional black/arab man than a wigga washout fuckwit. On the other hand, I'm not a fan of media propaganda trying to get people to act in accordance with prevailing social patterns.

>computer science
>marxist indoctrination

You dodged a bullet with STEM, lad.

>doesn't mind daughter breeding with nonwhites
>thinks women are equal to men

Stop calling yourself redpilled, kid

The gen ed classes were likely enough.

Some women, sure as hell. Right today, look at the YPJ Kurds, they are removing ISIS kebab just as well as their male counterparts. There's plenty of examples of women doing as well as men at stuff. Also worth noting, in the computer field, are Admiral Grace Murray Hopper and Ada Lovelace (computer programmers), and so fucking on. Many women would be better served at home, raising children, but I'm not such a cuck that I'd deny amazing women the right to be amazing. To put it in your jargon, how can we identify their intelligence as a positive racial trait without letting it express itself first?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_Protection_Units

As for whiteness, you know the original Aryans weren't white, right? They were from India. Skin colour means fuck all when compared to the value of culture and philosophical virtue.

Read 'On Women' by Schopenhauer. Changes my life

>look at the YPJ Kurds

You mean those literal commies?

>As for whiteness, you know the original Aryans weren't white, right?

Yeah, you gotta be some sort of mongrel.

>literal commies
Those literal commie women who are removing kebab like crazy.

>race
I'm Dutch-Irish-Danish. I'm a military officer (non-US). I look like a fucking Waffen-SS recruiting poster. And I know that I carry within my blood very likely the blood of Brahmin philosopher-priests of old, or at least of Kshatriyas.

I have read it several times. And from Schopenhauer, I would like to mention:

"I have not yet spoken my last word about women. I believe that if a woman succeeds in withdrawing from the mass, or rather raising herself from above the mass, she grows ceaselessly and more than a man."

Those are the women I am defending above.

Women can become religious only if they are raised like so and basically leave body hedonism before chads and robots try to please them.
But these 2 betas depending on women, they never ever leave girls alone and parents now think that body hedonism is alright, so women cannot be anything else than ''useless whores'' as betas call them.

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Philosophy is instruction on how to frame information for better living. I already live well, so it never much interested me.

Some people say I'm Wittgensteinian, but I don't take those people seriously.

>Hoo hoo, I know! I'll write a treatise on language and philosophy in fucking bullet points! I'm a goddamn genius!

Cocksucker.

Do you live well though?

Best question is: given that you can do anything physically possible, are you living as well as possible?

>Hoo hoo, I know! I'll write a treatise on language and philosophy in fucking bullet points! I'm a goddamn genius!

Yeah, agree cocksucker.

fake as fuck
nice try tho negro

I'm the only one qualified to ask and answer those question for myself, and I already have.

>not taking Communion with a wry smirk
>not going to confession with an amused sneer
>not discussing Augustine in Latin with a voice dripping in sarcasm

Wew