>implying that people don't treat "property" much better than "public property"
Most humans don't make rational choices unless they have their own skin in the game. Autists and Aspergers might be an exception but most humans are naturally tribal greedy assholes who manipulate surpluses of material goods for the social benefit of their tribe.
The concept of property is intimately related to the concept of responsibility and the concept of a self-responsibility.
Necessary but not sufficient.
Neither. Again, if you can't be bothered to follow the conversation refrain from entering it.
>most humans are naturally tribal greedy assholes who manipulate surpluses of material goods for the social benefit of their tribe.
Source on this universally?
>The concept of property is intimately related to the concept of responsibility and the concept of a self-responsibility.
Source on this?
Sorry, you're just wrong.
Great. Next!
>most humans are naturally tribal greedy assholes who manipulate surpluses of material goods for the social benefit of their tribe
oh, that's true
it kind of fascinates me what people think when they gather charity for american war vets, who are already very well paid, that's leaving aside that they are basically adventurers who went aboard to kill some people for money and , bawww, some of them were hurt, it's when hundreds million people on the earth starve
Further, the myth of success is "all men for themselves" is ridiculous and antiquated. It's the direct opposite, nothing points to this, there's growing evidence its the exact opposite.
Kropotkin's ideas of mutual aids, as well as 19th century initial Marxist analysis of history, tends to be surprisingly on the money most of the time. In history and anthropology.
If we're to regress to vague unprovable arguments of "human nature", it's more that "human nature", as a social genus from social organisms, have more in common than the concept of mutual aid than the concept of Randism, or other 19th century individualist nonsense. Not just in humans, generally in life outside of it, outside of mammals as well.
does Marx have any value to me? would it benefit me or empower me to understand him?
not everything is about you lol. In fact it isn't.