Let's discuss this

Let's discuss this

Physical vs e-books which do you prefer and why?

E-books. I travel a lot and having an entire library in my pocket is super handy, plus I can download and read whatever pops into my mind without even leaving home.

I like paper books but it's not even a contest.

i hate ebooks but i have your pic related as an ebook because it was free lmfao (in french)

I can't concentrate as well with e-books. I'm able to focus a lot better with physical books. Idk why

If you want a collection you always go with physical. If you are just a big reader and go through books like it's nobody's business, then e-books are better. It really all depends on what type of reader you are. I prefer e-books when reading because of lightning, formatting, ease of reading (just clickin 1 button to go to the next page, yes I can easily do that with physical books but we're talking details so bleh).

I just don't get the advantages e-books brought up.

E-readers
>free books
>portable
>comfier to hold
>can read in the dark

Books
>get to show off the book you're reading
>get to build a collection

Your brain associates digital reading with low effort nonsense that doesn't require much focus like Veeky Forums and other intraweb horseshit.

I very much prefer physical books, although I admit ebooks are superior in most aspects.

>free books
>portable
>comfier to hold
>can read in the dark
+
>can carry your library anywhere
>read 1000 page books in a few grams
>make notes without "hurting" the book
>embedded dictionary for multiple languages
>check wikipedia/internet instantly

Physical books don't even compete.

The only time I ever feel the faint semblance of something that resembles joy is when I go to the bookstore and find a pristine copy of the exact book I was hoping to find. I like holding them. I like the minor change they bring to my collection. Even though my reading list is unmanageably large and I probably shouldn't spend my money on something in won't touch for months, happiness is also important and books are all I have right now.

That being said I want an e-book because I move around a lot and lugging 100+ pounds of books up and down stairs is a hassle.

All these advantages are highly arguable. Assuming all the e-books you got are free, I could still provide you a lifetime-long supply of second-hand books for the price of your e-reader, which would last… Four years? Five years? A book is also “portable”, and even if an e-reader can hold up to 1,000 files, I don't get in which situation you would need such an amount of reading. I never read more than three, four books while traveling, even on long-term period. We could also ask how healthy it is to read on a screen in a dark room, or why you wouldn't simply set the lights on. Except bibles printed on extremely thin paper, I also never saw a 1,000+ pages book issued in a single volume, nor have I met someone who did read it straight. I doubt an avid reader would need a dictionary, and I don't think an internet connection does anything good except providing new opportunities to get distracted. On the other hand, e-readers are expensive, eco-unfriendly, highly dependent on a power shortage or more likely to break up.

Not buying an e-book when the paperwhite came out, was one of the stupidest mistakes ever.

It fits in most pockets, weighs nothing, allows you to read everywhere (rolling stairs, metro, in the dark), back light changes your reading game, you can get any and every book for nothing.

Paper is for people who have enough money, space and don't travel. If you ever leave the house, invest in a reader.

>if you ever leave the house, invest in a reader
What? Why couldn't you bring a book with you?

Depends on the book. If it's a classic, physical. If it's a more contemporary book, digital (unless it really sat well with me, in which I'll pick up a physical copy used).

I also get erotica digital.

It depends on what I'm reading. I always prefer a physical copy but if it's sci-fi or fantasy schlock of which there is a lot on kindle then I love my kindle. I sort of see it as the best device to read pulpy type of fiction stories while the authors I've vetted and really like I'll buy hard copies to read and add to my shelf.

you can get a lifetime supply of books for $60? Bullshit.
And I've had my kindle touch for years with no problems.

I take a crowded train to and from work every day. Turning pages is not practical when every arm movement has to carefully avoid four people. Even holding some books open with one hand is a pain.

I have the Kindle app on my phone, and I fucking hate it.

Why? I just prefer it. I'm a literature luddite.

I like being able to write notes/annotate easily, and fold in corners to mark where I'm at. I like the gradual shift of weight from right to left as I turn every page.

Most of all, I don't mind supporting the industry: because if physical books die, my only hope will be to make £0.35 from a million Kindle sales.

>I have the Kindle app on my phone, and I fucking hate it.
>Why? I just prefer it.
You hate it because you prefer it?

I prefer reading e-books for multiple reasons.

>No dusty books taking up tons of space on shelves
>If there's a word I'm not familiar with, I can simply press on it and I have the definition
>Can make as many notes as I want
>Can store as many books as I want on the device
>Don't pay for any books
>Only prefer reading during night time, I don't need any light to see the screen unlike a book
>Device is less than a pound

Reading a physical book is completely inconvenient to me. I'm never in a situation where I'm without a place to charge my device for more than a few hours. Building up a collection can be expensive, and books rented from a library can be dirty or fucked up.

Ebooks are better, but I like paperbacks anyway.
I like to give my books to people if I think they will like them, I like to focus on one title at a time, I like to buy them used for cheap. I almost dropped my kindle in the pool once and that wouldn't be the worst if it was a single paperback I could dry out and possibly still read. The button to turn the page is too often pressed on accident too.

I converted mostly to ereader because I had to move and couldn't take the library with me for lack of space and I do enjoy my kindle, but I was born to early and I have a nostalgic love for paper I guess

Both are good. A lengthy tome is good on an e reader if you are on public transport but the formatting is usually garbage so anything with footnotes is unreadable. For me the number 1 advantage of an e reader is highlighting and note taking. Copying out sections is torturous with a pen and paper

I prefer physical books but I read way more on my Kindle.
If I could download physical books and have them as readily available as ebooks it wouldn't even be a contest but as of now, it's much easier to get my hands on an ebook

Physical books. I write in them. And frankly I feel like there are enough screens for us to stare at in every day life.

e-books because I move around a lot for work.

Fuck trucking all that shit around man.

Though I am pretty pleb. Just use my Pixel C and Phone and the Google Play Store. Not sure how the quality compares to a kindle or some shit.

printed pdfs

ebooks of course for serious readers on a budget nothing matches it being free after purchasing the device

no not even libraries with their shit tier selections

I use both, physical when I am at home and a kindle for when I am travelling or out and about.

I still prefer a physical book to a kindle though. Guess I am just used to the feel of a book in my hand. It just doesn't feel right when using a kindle.

>want a collection
>if it's a classic, physical
>I've vetted and really like I'll buy hard copies to read and add to my shelf.
>and fold in corners to mark where I'm at. I like the gradual shift of weight from right to left as I turn every page.
>I have a nostalgic love for paper
>Guess I am just used to the feel of a book in my hand. It just doesn't feel right when using a kindle.

Veeky Forums - Materialism and Pedantic Behaviours

Shit, nigga, for the cost of all that ink you might as well just buy a used copy.

Physical, because I used to read books from computer screen back in the day when e-readers did not exist, and that's an uncomfortable experience.

Would probably find e-ink acceptable, but I own tens of shelf meters of books and kind of like the atmosphere they put into a room. Don't want to give that away.

>I doubt an avid reader would need a dictionary
>I've never seen a 1000+ page book issued in one volume

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I prefer to read free as in free beer books underwater.

>I also never saw a 1,000+ pages book issued in a single volume
>I doubt an avid reader would need a dictionary
>I don't think an internet connection does anything good except providing new opportunities to get distracted
>e-readers are expensive, eco-unfriendly, highly dependent on a power shortage or more likely to break up

>someone somewhere is seriously this autistic

Paper is more elegant and has charm, but e-readers win for me. I'm stingy and libgen/irc rooms/torrents have pretty much anything I may want to read for free which is my main reason.

I have a Kindle and I appreciate the convenience of cost effectiveness of ebooks, but in terms of just pure reading experience real books are.far better-the weight of them in your hands, the smell of the pages, turning back and re reading is more intuitive, seeing your progress immediately.. cool covers, having a collection of your favorite books. I dont see how anyone could think the shitty pyrotechnic thing with buttons and that can break is as good as real books.

I don't like staring at a screen while reading tb h. And I can focus better with a physical book. Plus I like having a bookshelf full of books + adding to the collection rather than just another device laying about.

>torrenting books
>being a stingy, immature poorfag

DUDE FREE SHIT XD

Both

>I could still provide you a lifetime-long supply of second-hand books for the price of your e-reader

No fucking way, man. Way different from having access to any book you could possibly want, without having to hunt around for a 50 cent copy at a used bookstore. You aren't factoring in opportunity cost.

>I doubt an avid reader would need a dictionary

Wow. You can also instantly translate non-english words and see the wikipedia article. So you know every word in the dictionary? So you also have encyclopedic knowledge and are fluent in every language. In that case, I concede to this point.

>I don't think an internet connection does anything good except providing new opportunities to get distracted

I don't think you get how it works. You don't surf the web on an e-reader. It's like pic related. Nothing "distracting".

>e-readers are expensive, eco-unfriendly, highly dependent on a power shortage or more likely to break up

I have a gen1 kindle from when they came out that still works perfectly. Also, what's more "eco-unfriendly"? An e-reader with 1,000 ebooks on it or 1,000 paperbacks? Lastly, the charge lasts 1-2 weeks so unless you live in Afghanistan, power shortage shouldn't be an issue.

None of the counter-arguments you brought up have any basis in reality.

Physical books improve comprehension and retention, so there you go.

Physical books are also the antifragile choice.

I have a Kindle and I can never find free books when I want to. Where are all the free books?

goddamn this

i can print for cheap at uni

Not him, but I agree on his point about the internet connection. It does serve as more of a distraction from the work.

Where online is the best place to get free books?

reading ebooks sucks on a desktop computer.

In my eyes E-Reader users are "lazier" with their reading. When the argument involves 'so you know every word in the dictionary?' I just don't equate digital to physical reading if you see not having to learn a word a good thing. Then again I probably just feel affronted and it's all personal preference anyway.

>for cheap
So you're still paying for it?
The only time I print pdf's at uni are academic journals and such and thats only when I need to write a lot of notes on them, other than that printing anything longer than 20 pages is a fucking waste.

>inb4 infinite jest

War and Peace
The Brothers Karamazov
Atlas Shrugged

/thread

Kat and piratebay

Most classics are free on Amazon as well like War and Peace and whatnot

kat. tpb. libgen. I don't know if #bookz is still running

I'd like to see what you think is mediumly arguable

Paper white best buy ever so convenient and when go places and don't know how long I'll be there or if bored waiting have a bunch of books and battery lasts forever

e-books are cheaper, or free if you're reading public domain books. Phisical books depend on the edition. It can be a nice hardcover with notes that don't take half of the pages, or a paperback with this on the cover

>digital reading
>low effort nonsense
At the end of the day, you're reading the same thing. Doesn't matter whether it's on paper or on a screen. Don't try and act like your better than every one else mate.

Every book is a memory, a souvenir from the time I read it. They give me happiness and nostalgia. My bookshelf makes me smile. Fuck screens and Internet devices.

I am from Russia and read basicallt on my cheap chinese android smartphone. Not that bad actually, could've been worse, at least I have easy access to a dictionary

...he furiously typed into his internet device

luddites get

ITT: people who only read mainstream books.

When you're going into slightly obscure (or old, or foreign) literature, there is no EPUB version to download on your e-reader.

Fuck Internet devices in relation to reading books, you literal autist

Explain why you don't like reading on e-readers.

e-books are for faggots

because then he can't show off his full shelf or flaunt in public that he's reading a book, in fact a passing person won't even know if that's a tablet or if he's really playing candy crush, and to be seen as just the same as everyone else is of course utterly unacceptable for an intellectual such as himself.

This is the truth behind the hate ereader get here.

Because 80% of my library doesn't exist on e-readers.

Good luck getting pic related on your Gameboy reading machine (and that's not even an out-of-print book).

>download audiobook
>it's read by a woman

>these so called "automobiles" need to be refilled every few miles
>I love the smell of horse
>horse carriages will last forever
>lol at your mechanical contraptions!

loving every laugh

Why do we never learn?

>le false equivalence

Surely you would be able to find the other 20% of your library on an e-reader? Or are you too against the "reading machine"?

it's exactly the same : a jump forward in technology.

And like every time it happens, there are those that cling to the old ways which will inevitably be swept away.

>Arguing by analogy

How to spot a pseud 101

You lot like physical books purely because then you get to show off your shelves to other people or be seen in public with one and yet I am the pseud. Keep them coming, pal.

Yes.

For the remaining 20%, the e-reader has two main advantages:
>you can carry your whole library easily
>you can search inside the text

But it has two flaws:
>you cannot turn pages very fast, or get to page 334 in one second
>all these files look like each other, so you remember what you read... but not what book it was

Overall the main reason to have an e-reader is that you're downloading books illegally.

>implying the average Veeky Forums user has "other people" to show his shelves to

I don't even let people in my room let alone read in public. They're there for me not others.

does this guy have any english translations?

"Bréviaire du chaos" was translated in Spanish, Italian and Turkish (?)... but not in English as far as I know.

Some parts are written directly in English (or German, or Spanish) though. He may even switch languages in the middle of a sentence.

If only /pol/ knew him, it would start a riot there.

So, what's the best e-reader to purchase?

Can I inconvenience you for forums /ircs/torrent links? Where can I find shit to read and people with good taste?

Amazon Kindles are crappy readers. Better but something under android

Do you just make shit up and expect to not be called out on it? You can type what page you want to go to and it takes you there instantly.

But it's not as simple.

1) It takes some time to display the menu, type on the keyboard, and let the lagging e-reader do his job (Kobo Aura here). It's way faster to go to page 372 with a physical book.

2) Even if it's not laggy, the page numbers are fucked up.
It's not the same numbers on your e-reader and on Calibre, for example. And the page 372 on the e-reader is actually two or three pages displayed on screen (???).
So you never know where's the page you want. You lose too much time fiddling around.

Not him but all the authors I read are dead, me buying their books wouldn't do them any good

>i often need to flip to page 334 quickly and without hindrance.

Lol, ok.

people who don't like e-readers are mostly people who think they're tablets

Is there any country you'd rather live in or are you happy in Russia?

Naturally in USA. Russia is a
disgusting shithole, am absolutely unhappy staying here.

Have multiple brands of ereaders and they're great . I couldn't go back to not having one.

With that said, they just can't replace physical books. There is a sensory level of enjoyment with a physical book that isn't present on an ereader.

The majority of my reading is done on the ereader, but I still go to the library at least once a month.

The Voyage and Paperwhite are probably the best currently on the market. The Kobo glo is a close second, but it can't handle PDFs as well. Nook is just not as good as Kobo or Kindle.

I hope Kobo comes out with something good next year. I'd love to have an 8" color eink screen with sd card slot and no cloud shit.

Also, don't waste money on buying ebooks. The pricing is a fucking joke. Half the ebooks cost the same as a paperback. You can usually buy used physical books on Amazon and pay for shipping and come out much cheaper than buying the ebook.

If you can't use free sources, for whatever reason, then don't get an ereader.

libgen.io will have most of what you need, idk any good communities sorry

I have an e reader/tablet just use it for porn now

I mostly read on my Kindle, but its literally only because of how easy it is to freely obtain new books at the drop of a hat. Besides that, I don't really give two shits what form the book takes, barring the absurd before the smart arses reply with stone tablets and the like.

If I could magic up a real book into my hands as easily and quickly as I download ebooks, I'd read that just the same.

How much of a pleb I am for just using the Google Play Store and reading on my phone/tablet?

e-ink screens really are much more pleasant to read on than traditional screens, but phone/tablet isnt too bad. you should try it out at a store with test models or something.

Debating it. Do any work with the Google Play Store?

I just hate having 1 million fucking accounts.

Both. But if I had to gear down and pick, I would pick ebooks.

I like buying resold books and taking out library books. But having ebooks wait patiently while I savor them is quite enjoyable.

About the only downside I've encountered is that some footnotes don't work as well in ebook format.

I'll admit that I'm losing something with my old book smelling candle while I read on my kindle.

It depends on the content. If it's something I'm going to refer to often and flip through, and where formatting really matters (poetry for example) then the physical copy.

E-books for most novels. But if I'm really interested in it, I'll sometimes buy the paper-back.

I can only speak for Kindle's in that they operate through Amazon and so need an Amazon account. That said, dedicated e-readers tend to be a bit on the gimped side for anything more than reading ebooks - so I don't think any of them will be using a store dedicated to android.