You lied to me Veeky Forums

>he did not went for archeology
studentsreview.com/unemployment_by_major.php3

Sorry, but I have to ask.
How did you manage to go through your entire Ph.D not knowing that Prof was top of the food chain and in order to get there you have to go through some years of post-doc/fellowship and if you do well and are lucky, get a lectureship > Senior lecturer/Reader (depending on publications) > Associate Professor/Prof (again dependant).

Knowing the career progression is pretty much invaluable if you are going into academia. Did you not wonder why the majority of Profs were 40+? You don't just get given it with your Ph.D, you need a lifetime of well recieved and impactful publications to even get a look in a Prof. We are talking more than a decade from starting a Ph.D, so significantly longer than medschool. Also going from post-doc to associate prof just does not happen given the differences in the positions, lecturer always comes first due to the managerial nature of the postion.

Wtf dude, no wonder you are disillusioned.

This is virtually the only post that had some backbone in it in this whole stupid thread.

>It's just as long as med school, with less pay and much more time wasted chasing unicorns.
Let me stop you here, because this memeing is starting to annoy me. Less pay than a med student? Associate professor is a professor; they make on average $80-90k a year at state schools. The only difference is that they can be let go after a few years and don't yet make as much as tenured professors. Postdocs make around $40k. Are you telling me that you consider $80k and $40k, respectively, to be a pittance? This is more than a perfectly livable pay.

Oh, and I think we both meant to say assistant professor. Associate professors already have tenure and make a little more money.

>Science is literally a meme.

Everything that is common enough is "literally a meme".

>Science is underpaid

It's paid perfectly fine. If you wanted to drive sports cars and fuck bitches, you selected the wrong career senpai.

>Science is spending countless hours searching for knowledge that will never be directly applied.
>that will never be directly applied.

That is not yours to worry about.

>thag, stop rubbing stick together
>need food thag
>thag waste time playing with stick
>no application

>look how many of those jobs require a PhD in order to even be considered
This desu, along with a handful years of experience all over the industry as "minimum requirements".

Fortunately I have not gone through the entire PhD. I am a sophomore who almost fell into the career path as a result of the "PhD is best, most honor, professor is best scholar" meme. The problem was that all they talk about is how great a PhD is and how it helps, but no one ever actually sits us down and tells us or allows us to know what Grad school is actually, or what it entails afterwards. I partly blame this on myself for taking things at face value.

However, there are jobs just as prestigious and much better paid out there that can still allow science without spending nearly half of your life to get there. I actually wanna live at some point as well.

>The problem was that all they talk about is how great a PhD
would do this too if i ran a university t b h