What does Veeky Forums think of his body of work?

What does Veeky Forums think of his body of work?

Epic Hitchslap videos aside, I always enjoyed his articles in Vanity Fair and his published essays.

Recommended Hitchens?

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His book on the Clintons is excellent.

Many of his articles were very entertaining.

I don't care for his atheism stuff, though he is right about Islam, I think. I'm not sure whether I agree with him about the war in Iraq, but his point's compelling.

I think he was a real English man of feeling, which made him a good journalist.

I say this as one of those "Christian morons" he might have "Hitchslapped"

I enjoyed his memoir, though he spent way too much time talking about whether or not he was Jewish.

fuck off, for any thinking and feeling person it's a big deal

you seem like an ok guy

>So mad at religion you make a book called "god is not great'

I hope he only gave it the title to sell, what self respecting author would put a name like that on their work.

>not understanding that pride is the most difficult sin to overcome
come now, let's not be judgmental, user. religion can be a crushing thing to a man, the concept that everything is out of one's control, except the choice to give everything to the Lord, to accept love in spite of all the pain that the soul suffers within the mortal man. This was his endeavor to lash out at the Lord, in brief opposition to all but he and the Lord. Please be more kind to one who exemplifies that which is man, and that which is meant to be overcome, do not scoff at the beauty that he has given us through the vicarious experiences of men just like us. those who we will be in union with when the Lord takes us.

'God is not great' is a reference to the Muslim Takbir, 'God is great' (Allah Akbar)

Pretty much this

Even though I disagree with Hitchens on most things politically, he was principled as fuck and knew what he was talking about. I can't think of a better orator in recent memory and his essays are worth reading.

I think he was way too hard on Kissinger though. Every radical teenager now who's watched a Hitchens video on youtube just calls him a War Criminal without any understanding of what an ambiguous shitshow the Cold War was.

I can't say he was allergic to the sophistry. He's much more likable than the average sophist, but he's hard to take very seriously on matters like foreign policy which are more empirical than stuff like religion.

He's just the prototype Atheist Edgelord that inspired many of the insufferable fedora tippers you find these days.

I shared a house with a guy that emulated c hitch right down to the brand of cigarette he smoked, the corpulence and the hairstyle.

It was awful.

Peter hitchens was the far superior brother

no shit

He was a master at rhetoric. While his opponents were making arguments, Hitchens would usually appeal to emotions.
>Wouldn't THIS have been a better way to do it?
>Read this part, doesn't this part hurt your feelings? Therefore it isn't true

look at that popped colllar and that cigarette
guy is just begging to be misconstrued as an edgy contrarian pile of nothing

I watched an episode of Firing Line (will buckley's shit) a couple months back with hitch as a guest and was taken aback because I watch a lot of that shit (ty amazon) and normally I never agree with a guest so strongly but he was on easy mode, the guy he was arguing against was some currently no-name misogynist 80s congressman. but the point I was gonna make is 1) fuck hitchens but also 2) the guy's right about a lot of stuff, and wrong about a lot of stuff, and you just gotta learn which stuff is which (as with anyone man). He's just a dude, and the dude was right sometimes, but even when he was wrong he was wrong well.

>edgy contrarian pile of nothing
he has to appeal to his intended audience, man

It's a good thing he is dead or you cucks wouldn't be able to criticize him without getting BTFO.

Christ, reading your writing is torturous.

He was a fucking contrarian, the same as his still living brother.

He even wrote a book called "How to be a Contrarian" for fuck sake.

Insincere as he was, however (although I do think he might have been sincere about 'some' things), a lot of his arguments were invaluable. As said, he would have been pretty invaluable in this modern age of shameless Islam-coddling.

As with all of those New Atheists, he made the mistake of thinking that with Christianity dead, atheism/logic/reason/etc would take its place.

*Letters to a Young Contrarian

Same thing, basically.

Probably the most beloved intellectual of the 21st century so far, OP

Apart from Žižek that is ;^)))

ok,Always nice to make an impact!

I'd love to see his take on the 2016 US election.

I'd think he'd despise Trump, he'd probably dislike Bernie's foreign policy but admire his healthcare plan, and vice versa for Clinton.

Even though he held the Clintons in enormous disregard, I'd think he'd be a reluctant Hillshill because she's the natural successor for Obama and his foreign policy.

You're wrong.

If anything, he'd love Trump; the one thing he couldn't stand was self-hating Americans. If memory serves, he even renounced his British citizenship in favour of becoming a fully-fledged American.

He also frequently defended George Bush from attacks on his intelligence/etc, and was quite a fan of Neo-Conservatism in general. There are a lot of parallels between Bush and Trump.

He'd have hated Hilldog, just like he hated Bill. I doubt he'd have cared much for Bernie, but would probably have been pleasantly surprised to see an openly Socialist candidate; having been a 'former' Trot.

Trump is an Lindbergh school America First isolationist

Hitchens despised that; Trump is no neo-Con

>If anything, he'd love Trump;
I doubt it, but I could see him voting for Trump if the alternative was Hillary.

You say there are parallels between Bush and Trump. Let's assume that's true (though I think it's not): Hitchens did not "love" Bush. He defended Bush against the Left which would vote in anybody, no matter how degraded, how corrupt, so long as it wasn't a Republican. His feelings for Bush were lukewarm.

>he would admire Clinton's foreign policy
You haven't read much of his, have you? If anything, he would have spent the last four years attacking Hillary on every point. He hated the Clintons more than he hated anyone, except maybe Kissinger. They were, to him, symbolic of (and partly responsible for) the total degradation of the American left.

>anti-abortion
>anti-gun control
>pro-war
>islamophobic
>believes no wife of his should have to work

why do we say that he was on the left, again?

Dunno, not sure how such a reasonable group of views can be seen as left wing.

>I'd love to see his take on the 2016 US election.
I wish we could bring back ALL our great dead to talk about this fucked up election

but it's most tempting to wish Hitchens were here because we already know how ruthless he'd be to Hillary

Didn't he consider himself a socialist?

There seems to be a common line amongst a subset of Trumpettes that Hitch would have supported him.

Above all else, Hitch valued intelligence, and nobody (not even Trump supporters, who hate Hillary for other reasons) can argue that Trump has the intellectual edge on Hillary. Hitch is also too cosmopolitan to support an isolationist like Trump.

As for the man and his work, Hitch is among the finest wordsmiths of modern times, and a great synthesiser of enlightenment philosophy.

People who prefer his brother really just fall for the accent, since Peter cannot string a sentence together like his elder brother, and nor can he formulate an argument. He's all bluster.

He's a dog shit philosopher.
He's a great entertainer, I guess.

>Above all else, Hitch valued intelligence
I think that's a simplification

But I'm certain he wouldn't be much taken with the boast that Trump is a successful businessman. What he'd think about securing the borders, I don't know.

Given that Trump is a habitual liar, I doubt the Hitch would have liked him much. I suspect he'd a little bit like how unpolished he is, but maybe he wouldn't.

>Recommended Hitchens?
Peter.

>People who prefer his brother really just fall for the accent, since Peter cannot string a sentence together like his elder brother, and nor can he formulate an argument. He's all bluster.
It simply isn't true, and that you needlessly and unprovokedly insult him to such a degree betrays the simple fact that you disagree with him politically. Remember, disagreeing with someone does not mean that they don't have a single argument or are stupid.

I regret writing that out after read the top of your post and saw that you somehow tried to twist Christopher Hitchens into choosing Hillary Clinton. That's just embarrassing for anyone who knows anything about the two. Once again you make it clear that you hate one of them and do everything to insult them. Christopher Hitchens would have liked neither but he would certainly have supported Trump's aggressive foreign policy. Trump is not in any sense an isolationist, you absolute mong. And I don't care what the newspapers say.

Hitch was a verifiable retard, though.

and Hitchens wasn't a neocon either lol
he was called a neocon though

>believes no wife of his should have to work

He also said that women should be free to do as they please but his way his wife shouldn't HAVE to.

because he was a professed socialist and a trotskyist

>Trump is dumb meme

I would think Hitchens would've supported Trump against Hillary just to spite the left, and because of his hate of the Clintons.

He was a "charming sexist" and I am convinced that is the basis of his entire career.

Now, now, the only thing more pointless than a fag getting a vasectomy is speaking on behalf of the deceased.

The Chorus of Cassandras is good from back when he as lucid and not sleeping with the neocons

Nobody ever took Hitchens seriously, and that extends posthumously

Trump will also lose the election to Hillary Clinton.

Based Peter

>Nobody can argue that Trump has the intellectual edge on Hillary

Hillary is "intellectual" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA

>Trump is dumb because his base is the working class
>The working class is dumb

Is this like the eternal meme of politics?

It has less to do with Hillary being intellectual than the staff, money, mind, man hour, and capability, Trump simply doesn't have.

>the working class is dumb

They're not dumb, but they are easily manipulated. For example, the two candidates for the empty King/Queen position that hardly matters, don't give a solid fuck about any of them and never will; yet as always because we have no choice in the matter, we line up to pick our poison.

So it's merely Hillary's CAMPAIGN that's intellectual (this is even more absurd than your previous statement btw)

>Working class is easily manipulated (implying that other classes aren't)
>Executive branch doesn't matter
>All politicians are cynical
>Choice doesn't exist

Any other brain-dead memes you'd like to regurgitate before I log off this literally retarded board?

>So it's merely Hillary's CAMPAIGN that's intellectual (this is even more absurd than your previous statement btw)

I'm not that user, and using "intellectual" in this context is pointless, it's not a value being debated at all. It's competency, organization, money, and the interest of the market to have Hillary be president because Trump is entirely an unknown, what is known has consequences.

This is not saying Hillary is good, or Trump is good, for any of the above reasons; that would pointless as well. They both have about the same interest in the people they promise to serve.

>>Working class is easily manipulated (implying that other classes aren't)

I never suggested they weren't, but how the upper class can be manipulated once you've reached a certain point, in this time, is beyond me.

>Executive branch doesn't matter
If Congress can be as incompetent as its always been in order to get the state to churn out laws that make it and the market inseparable, the executive office is not an office that matters as it only exists to capitulate.

>All politicians are cynical
Oh is this an edgy thing to say now? Do you trust your politicians? Do you trust Donald Trump to give you daises and flowers and kittens and puppies and a wonder bread white America without any violence?

It's all bullshit, the only edgy thing is denying the facts as we have them in favor of, basically the fantastical.

>Choice doesn't exist
In the bureaucracy here? You have no choice in how the world operates.

>Nobody ever took Hitchens seriously,
demonstrably untrue. nobody you read, maybe.

>Now, now,

stopped reading there tbqhwufam

Does anyone other than Trumpettes on /pol/ not think this?

nobody that mattes

He's one of the last of those overly educated erudite, articulate and well spoken british social commentators

Who do we have left? steven fry?

I like the bit about women not being funny.

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This fucking legend.

I like peter hitchens, just listening to him he sounds so smart from his way of articulating, is he a good guy? I"m not british but i've watched a few of his interviews, he seems level headed.

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Crass and boorish. I wish he'd hurry up and fade away already.

Whiny adolescent that enjoyed being a big fish in a small pond. He only """"debated"""" nobodies, his writing is pedestrian and he is a literal hack, that is, journalist. Journalism is the graveyard of failed hack writers.

wow you managed to fit like seven cliches in three sentences

From anti-Semite to self-hating Jew, all in one day.

>implying anti-gun control isn't the true revolutionary position
Petty-bourgeois reformist, you probably don't even read Worker's Vanguard

A posturing pseudo-intellectual who only appeals to the kind of troglodytes who are stupified by an educated sounding English accent.

I like him because he's the only conservative/reactionary I know of who admits that it's all utterly doomed and there is no realistic hope for any such ideals to ever come to fruition. I also like him for calling out mainstream conservatives for no longer actually being conservatives.

He realises he's on the losing side of history, sticks to his opinions all the same but just gets comfy in the meanwhile and waits for the deluge while being an affable lad.