Could video game has a literally merit?

Could video game has a literally merit?
youtube.com/watch?v=bPuRrSTenvk

I can tell this guy is going to annoy the fuck out of me already

overanalyzing video games has become very trendy. it's probably the most pseud thing you can do.

a medium that focuses on interaction/visuals will never have the same merit as literature

i want to strangle that dude with his stupid tie.

No, because they are, by definition, not literature. Until retards like the guy in the vid start considering videogames for what they are, they'll never advance as an art.

No.

When will Zizek finally comment on pewdiepie?

Video games aren't literature but they are defined as art, just like music or film. A better term is "artistic merit," whether any video game has artistic merit is a good question and in my opinion the only video game that could be considered having artistic merit is Tetris. Tetris has endured the test of time. Released in 1984, it's still a popular game and has many variants created and has become a part of many cultures. Both the graphics and gameplay are enough to last forever.

>close combat

Hell yeah. Sadly overlooked series. Ditto the non-heros might and magic.

>Vidya
>Bunch of fanfic tier cliche spewing garbage
>IS IT LITERATURE

Who are these people desperately searching for quality writing in games?

That pic sucks.

This must happen. It is inevitable.

I got 20 minutes in. I fucking can't what the fuck. IT HUUURTSSS.

>pokemon plushies

I closed the tab right there.

You see OP, I know you're an idiot and that your family doesn't love you but here's a good thing to consider: back then, 30 or 40 years ago, games didn't have a strong narrative because people making games were just programmers and other faux pas autists.

Then narrative became more and more sought after, but if you're writing for videogames chances are you're American or Japanese, thus very far from humanist sensibilities and culture, and not well-read either, so the writing is gonna be shit.

You had me, but then you lost me at "the only video game that could be considered having artistic merit is Tetris," which, to me, indicates two things: you have a very, very different definition of art than I do; and you have very, very different tastes than I do.

This is really bad.

"The bad guys represent evil, while the protagonist represents the good in human nature!"

But I'm sure we've all done stupid shit when we were kids so w/e.

Fucking crossboarders.

yeah, but due to the inherent complexity of the medium, the beginners being considered as toys, the horrible audiences, and lazy and unread developers it is stifled painfully.
When it does break through completely (which i believe it will soon) it will be an undeniable triumph of human creativity.
Once they are approached as interactive digital sculptures or focus more on mechanically driven narratives, it will be much easier to see their merit.

Antichamber is one of the best examples and the puzzler genre in general is more advanced than most other directions.

Wrong, sorry. The novel is the last medium capable of artistic merit, because it is the last new medium conceived in a pre-capitalist environment.

calling something pseud holds nothing

>video games back in the day
>mindless fun, arbitrary plot, actually hard so you had to focus on gameplay

>video games now
>LE EBEIN STORY XD ITS LIKE IM READIN A BOOK :DD
>gameplay is irrelevant and easy

Really makes you think...

>there aren't tonnes of hard games if you look for them

FUCK

This literally reeks of autism.
True literature can't be autistic, as it is supposed to communicate with people, and be thought-provoking.

Most games SUCK, and you forget about them. The "best game evar xD" is Half-life, according to "muh critics". Fuck, even Zorba the greek is more immersive than some shitty game.

There's no stimulation of creativity in pc-games, there's no time to reflect, and the "open worlds" this autist talks of is literally a spook.

I hate to criticize your wonderful eurotrash opinions, but that's not really how you use faux pas, nor is it a clever imaginative use of it.

I don't disagree with your content but your form is terrible. Shut the fuck up please.

>"You see, whether you can draw like this or not, being able to think up this kind of design, it depends on whether or not you can say to yourself, ‘Oh, yeah, girls like this exist in real life. If you don’t spend time watching real people, you can’t do this, because you’ve never seen it. Some people spend their lives interested only in themselves. Almost all Japanese animation is produced with hardly any basis taken from observing real people, you know. It’s produced by humans who can’t stand looking at other humans. And that’s why the industry is full of otaku!."

If vidya ever gets the credit and academic standing as classical literature, I'm going to off myself.

>Most games SUCK, and you forget about them.
99% of published novels are horse manure that no one reads.

They could have merit in their own right. Myst in the early 90s was something no one had seen, an interactive artistic experience. Souls games, and to a lesser extent Everquest and WoW when they came out had entire worlds portrayed in a unified style. Some Paradox games like Crusader Kings 2 or Magicka had stylistic and gameplay innovations that improved their medium. I would not call any of these literary however. The most "literary" of video games like planescape or arcanum have writing on the level of your typical mid tier sci fi novel.

Modern games are not artistic at all, as they have eschewed the story writer like early Metzen for communal writing goals that are passed through focus groups, creating a sterile, worthless product. Furthermore, the creation of a product for mass consumption does not lend to an artistic product either.

Imagine if your favorite novel, instead of being written by the author, was written by a panel of authors subject to the whims of suits and forum autists with the overall goal of fan service and making as much money as possible.

>True literature can't be autistic
Get the fuck out of here.

My nigga. I actually like Planescape as well, but it's not revolutionary writing or anything. I've been more impressed by games that are able to do something interesting with the medium.