What is math?

okay, to help you clarify what you're asking, you aren't asking anything about math, which is symbolic manipulation via inference rules, and you aren't asking anything about science, which is the making of mathematical models that seem to work

what you are asking about is philosophy, particularly epistemology, which asks about knowledge. whether it's arbitrary, whether there's any basis for believing the world "is" as it seems to us, etc, those all have pretty lengthy and complicated treatments. it's a very murky subject and you won't gain anything talking about it here except for idiots pretending to know about it after they skimmed wikipedia.

No, math is entirely made up. It is not in principle based in any way at all on reality. Math is what happens when you invent a bunch of rules and then follow them and see what happens

>math is made up

then how do space shuttles exist?

if math not real then who was phone?

biggie smals

"math isn't real"

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Because certain kinds of math are very useful for modelling reality

yes, such as rap music .

All math is rap music

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