Is there any scientific reason for men to despise women who sleep around but are now ready to settle ?

Is there any scientific reason for men to despise women who sleep around but are now ready to settle ?
How is it bad for the species when a girl is done with having fun ?

Because her lack of mental maturity indicates that she will be a bad partner and in particular a bad mother. She is not qualified to hold the responsibility of raising my child.

Settling down with a promiscuous female means a higher chance that you'll be raising someone else's offspring.

Higher probability she'll continue to sleep around, no one readily believes it was a phase and she now got it out of her system. Mate selection is about choosing someone to raise your children, pass on their genetically biased behaviors, and life attitudes, as well as take care of them in the event something happens to you.

It's all about engineering the most viable offspring you possibly can. Someone who fucked their twenties and probably early thirties away, fling to fling, probably doesn't have much going on at their core that's worth having something to do with in the context of a meaningful romantic partner.

>Settling down
>on tinder
This bitch is gonna fuck the first guy she matches with

Is there any scientific reason for men to despise women who consume drugs but are now ready to settle ?
How is it bad for the species when a girl is done with having fun ?

>Is there any scientific reason for men to despise women who sleep around but are now ready to settle?

Economics, if you consider it a weak science.

it's not bad for the species, but individuals don't care about the species success. They want to ensure their own reproductive success.
right here says it well.

To add on, many men don't care if their girlfriend sleeps with other girls. In terms of a man's reproductive success, it doesn't matter because females can't impregnate each other.

I never understood why this was so bad until back in 2014 I had my /r9k/ days of shitposting. Eye opening when it came to women and as autistic as it sounds, it has really helped me deal with the more difficult type of women in my life.

It is a thing that I've had more sex since 2014 than before 2014 so I think /r9k/'s influence was positive.

What they argued was that these women would despise men 'like' them. Average guys who just wanted to live their lives, maybe find a good woman to settle down. Those women would ignore them and shit on them but then after 40 years of shit that same type of woman would come to them now that 'Chad' would no longer support here.

Basically, for those women, the men they settle down with are backup plans. You know they wish they could become some crazy popstar and stay all their lives fucking around but they can't and that is why they look for you, a mangina beta faggot who will take her up.

Don't take her up. If anything do it for your own pride.

These kind of women should be despised in modern society. Not because they fuck around (that is perfectly fine, their right to do so) but because they fuck around like total sluts and then try to hook up a man who has likely experienced much less sex than her to just leech off his resources without giving him any kind of love back, because you know these sluts have no heart or soul. They are basically just fuck robots.

DO NOT FALL FOR THIS. IF YOUR GIRLFRIEND HAS HAD MANY MORE SEX PARTNERS THAN YOU THEN DROP HER LIKE A ROCK.

Stop being retarded

Either
>poor cuck realizing his miserable existence
or
>bitch slut angry that one day she may not be able to fill her quota of beta orbiters

Try to argue against my points if you think I am retarded. Just don't make too much of a fool of yourself.

user has a smaller penis.

Any man who doesn't see promiscuity as a red flag is a fool.

This is now a thread for attractive, but also interesting females.

Image related has strange posture and overall detached body language. Hair is very precisely tended. Has an arousing, but still very off vibe. Likely indicates a logical hole for risk assessment.

I've always had a serious problem with girls who fuck a lot of guys(ones I would want to date) having 23 sexual partners at 25 is a fucking big red flag for a lot of things. There's is a reason why sluts are looked down upon. Men are meant to be promiscuous and women choosy. 23 partners at 25 is not choosy or selective. I once had a girlfriend who was 24 that told me she had had an estimated sexual partner count in the 20's. When we started getting really close this shit tore me up inside...long story short i broke up with her even though things we're going really well

fuck sluts man

the kind of person who has "fun" going around fucking strangers is not the kind of person rightful people want

Who wants used goods? Look her stupid I didn't do nothing -face.

Also stop these 'what is scientific reason/evolutional benefit' bullshit threads.

Degeneracy!
There shouldn't be scientific/evolutionary reason a moral reason is good enough. OP you don't have self confidence in your morality and what you're trying to do here is find a "scientific/evolutionary" reason.

Because no one wants a used up piece of meet,and probably insecurity,as she will have probably fucked way better people than you. Woman become pretty useless assets past their 30,so this "settle down" bitches are just trying to take their last train to start a family and have a partner.

Sex is a social construct.

Try

>Sex is a social construct.

dude ex druggie chicks are hot and i will mearry one. We'll settle down and just smoke pot all day since it isn't a drug.

Nono, Don't fuck sluts. That is just what they want.

you know biologically men want to spread their genes as wide and far as possible with as many fitting mates as possible.
Women want to find the top 1% of males on the market, procreate and in darkness bind them.
Because women have to invest incredible amounts of time and energy, while making themselves slower and more prone to die, to create viable offspring, the best tactic for a woman would indeed be:
1) find the best partner
2) procreate
3) be sure that that alpha male stays with you to rise the kids

or alternatively:
1) fuck alphas
2) procreate with them for best possible genes for offspring
3) find some other provider for your offspring, when alpha fucks off

every woman that acts against that old evolutionary program we instinctively deem unnatural. A woman fucking alot of men does so, because she just follows the "fucking alpha males for their superior genes" program, completely ignoring the "binding them" part; either because she is unworthy of being in a relationship with, or because she is simply a slut.
Her trying to settle down, just tells you something about her current sexual market value and her inner clock ticking.

Why would you want a relationship with someone who feels they had to "settle" for you?

Why would you want someone who had many fuck buddies and one night stands, but for some reason isn't interested in the same with you?

Someone "insecure" and "entitled" might deny themselves something they want for petty reasons. I'm not talking about that. I am talking about why someone would want this in the first place.

>Is there any scientific reason for men to despise women who sleep around but are now ready to settle ?

Most of these are diseased and carry incurable STDs like herpes and HPV. A lot of them are just mentally unstable and deeply broken human beings. They will not make good mothers let alone a good wife.

As much as I agree with you, "settling for someone" and "settling down with someone" are two very different things.

Well, cuck confirmed.

user's penis is still of a smaller size.

Small.

being cucked isn't an evolutionary advantage. A women knows if a kid is hers a guy doesn't, that is why women who are sluts are unattractive. A guy who gets a lot of pussy is far from a girl who gets a lot of dick

>On tinder
>looking for someone to settle down with

I don't believe it and there is scientific reasoning it's called fucking logic. If a girl was sleeping around then that stands to reason to me that she doesn't give a fuck about relationships. You don't just one day say "I'm ready to settle down", that's not how it works.

a key that opens a lot of locks is a master key. a lock that a lot of keys can open is a shitty lock

>You don't just one day say "I'm ready to settle down", that's not how it works.
she says this after she had her fun, this is her point.

Basically everyone sleeps around at some point in their life. It's stupid to expect the person you marry (or to get married in the first place, but that's a whole different can of worms) to be a virgin, but you also don't really want to acknowledge all the people she's fucked before (even though, you know she almost certainly has). Likewise, it is also indicative of a healthy male sex life to go through the hookups phase and all that jazz, though I'm sure most females don't necessarily want to acknowledge it.

> How is it bad for the species when a girl is done with having fun ?

That isn't really how evolution works. Natural selection doesn't select the best possible trait, just the best trait of those presented in competition (or most accurately the most suited to survive). Most importantly, just because a trait survives doesn't mean that it is beneficial to the species. It could be totally neutral or even mildly detrimental (just so that it is the least detrimental of trait selection among competing species).

That said, marriage didn't come about by evolution, either, because being monogamous isn't necessarily super beneficial. It only started being a thing in like 1-2k bce as a political tool.

Are those transparent shoes? Is she autistic?

The black community has had it figured out for years with sayings like "can't turn a hoe into a housewife' and "Captain Save-a-Hoe"

>Basically everyone sleeps around at some point in their life

Must be why genetic data shows us that 80 percent of all women in history have reproduced but only 20 percent of men have.

sauce?

no, it's 80% women and 40% men
why?
fucking other 60% died due to war, environment before they can pass on their genes.

>which explains why 10% of children are illegitimate

Source? That would be an incredibly hard claim to actually investigate. If the statement is true, has a plausible explanation.

They''re either transparent or highly reflective.

There's just something about her that I can't quite place.

Look up Bateman's principle, humans also have sexual dimorphism and there was no contraception for most of history.

Why is it so hard for women to be non-whores?

Why is it so hard for men to just develop self control and framework of realistic and iterative heuristics to predict human behavior? Instead you get all this woman-hating nonsense, and overgeneralized evolutionary arguments.

Yes, as a male I get it. You want something and it isn't working the way you'd like and it doesn't like it's gonna, and it seems like a petty and fruitless mess. Most women that aren't worth something are giving out myriad signals you can use to try to weight things and piece this together. Then just leave them to their deal, and move on with yours.

The world is not ideal, and it's full of dysfunctionally stupid people, with unrelateable value systems and motivations, that unfortunately don't exist in a vacuum and tend to leave their shit strewn everywhere. It doesn't have to be so bad. Take life into your own hands, then develop some view a bit finer than "why are women biased towards whore-like behaviors". I think a better question to start with is, "Why are people so disjointed?"

This shit gets tiring.

She isn't looking for the bitter kissless virgins that populate r9k, she's looking for retired Chads.

Because men prefer unplowed fields.
They prefer women who are young, fit, and ready to start reproducing.

A woman who is in her 20s and has been having sex for the past 10+ years is leaving that window of optimal mate choice, and she knows it. That's why she's settling. She's watching her looks, her skin tautness, her breast firmness, her vaginal tightness, her complexion, etc, all fade away, so she's seeking to cash out before she's too far gone. And men know that. And they usually hate it.

It's hypocrisy. It's trying to have her cake and eat it too. She's trying to get the benefits of being promiscuous AND the stability and support of committing by doing the equivalent of a deathbed repentance.

She's behaving in bad faith. Her opposite would be the 20 year old girl who's had few or no partners that's looking for a guy to settle down with and is willing to put in effort to make it work. Almost every man alive will pick the younger girl that hasn't slept around.

What's more is there are women pushing 30, watching their looks go, who HAVEN'T slept around. There's such a thing as an attractive 30 year old female virgin career woman who's looking to settle down now that she's financially stable. And these women are just as desirable as the 20 year old if not more so for their demonstrations of restraint and good judgment.

No one in this thread has posted anything related to science.

Fuck off to your hugbox

Forget the annotations.

>so she's seeking to cash out before she's too far gone. And men know that. And they usually hate it.
The real solution is just to not get married. Honestly, as a man (especially as the primary breadwinner) marriage is nothing but risk for you. At best you are financially supporting one person and banging them, but if you get divorced or are in a sexless marriage it's even worse. You could get all of the same benefits with a non-married long term relationship without all the risks.

Shitty, shitty analogy.

Yeah, but if you marry a virgin, then there is probably something wrong with her. Either there was never any temptation for her because she has some obvious defect or she's one of those crazy religious types, both are shitty. Plus if she wants to wait until marriage for sex, the you wouldn't be able to fuck her before marriage, so you wouldn't know if the two of you are sexually compatible.

>You could get all of the same benefits with a non-married long term relationship without all the risks.
You can't. That's the whole problem. Marriage provides significant tax breaks and is advantageous from a number of legal angles, when you're not screwing each other over for assets that is.

We should get rid of marriage entirely. Opt for some sort of registration system no more impactful than a change of address or filing your taxes. Everyone wants to expand marriage, unfortunately few want to discuss getting rid of it.

Not really. Getting laid as a guy requires effort, if you're a woman you could get laid on any given night. For a guy it's an accomplishment because you actually need to work for it. That's why it's impressive when you're a guy who fucks a lot of women. If you're female it takes zero effort, so it isn't seen as positive. That person's analogy is a perfect encapsulation of this idea. I'm sorry if you don't like it, but we can't all be idiots like you.

The tax breaks aren't worth shit if you get divorced and as losing 2/3 of your income because of alimony + child support. I was referring to getting the same social advantages, there are tax implications, but they aren't worth the risk.

> unfortunately few want to discuss getting rid of it.

You'd have a weird alliance between the feminists who enjoy effectively stealing money in divorce and the traditional values crowd against you.

>You'd have a weird alliance between the feminists who enjoy effectively stealing money in divorce and the traditional values crowd against you.
No one is usually too keen on what I have to say, I'm used to it. Seeing such a disjointed monstrosity form would be a sight worth beholding.

No, he's found a pretty decent one.

It's very old.

This is such a simple question, with a relatively simplistic answer, yet it has generated an absurdly disproportionate number of replies.

Indications of female promiscuity draw negative associations from males pursuing a long term mating strategy.

Whereas, such indications would be positively received by males pursuing a short term strategy.

Males positively associate fidelity in a long term mate and are typically vehemently intolerant of sexual infidelity, either practiced or implied.

The evolutionary origin of such a disposition is rather obvious: males who negatively associated indications of promiscuity in a potential long term mate and reacted severely to indications of sexual infidelity, mitigated their risk of raising the offspring of another male, thereby increasing their inclusive fitness.

It's that simple.

The fact that this thread has generated so many (retarded) replies, is testament to just how ignorant the majority of Veeky Forums posters are and explains why hardly anything of value ever manifests itself here.

>Getting laid as a guy requires effort
When you're a woman as fat as you it's difficult too.

Seriously, when was the last time you went out? It's really not that hard to get laid.
Go be autistic somewhere else

Some people have some problems, or more specific desires.

>Yeah, but if you marry a virgin, then there is probably something wrong with her.

You are discussing one statistic of the graph.

You are neglecting the rest of the graph that shows the relationship between promiscuity and unstable marriages.

So talk about the entirety of the graph or don't post.

>I only agree with you if we are talking about women over the age of 21 or post-University.

It could be a good thing because they won't have a midlife crisis. In a way, they already had some.
But as far as i am concerned, I despise them.

Women are bombarded of proposal form men. No wonder that they become picky and always lustful.

Where is your graph based on? Which country?

She looks really ugly. Like, so ugly she doesn't even deserve Chads in the first place

This woman basically said she is a pair of holes, and has nothing to offer as a human being. Its the same ugliness of character you find in fat people and drug addicts who cant control their desires.

his point is that it is not different

Not really, women aren't men with tits. There's a double standard for a reason. Before contraception it was incredibly maladaptive for a women to be promiscuous, because if she didn't find a suitable mate who was going to provide for her and her offspring what do you think would happen?

holy shit.
i'm a virgin in my mid twenties, the thread.

Guys generally don't. Guys do give a shit about being lied to and finding out differently later, but that social stigma shit is mostly a female thing

Interesting that you have to reduce everything to sex. Is it perhaps because women have no other qualities to offer?

interesting that you have to reduce everything to sex. is it perhaps because you have never actually had a relationship and you therefore thing pornhub is real life?

fuck off already, kid. go find a girl, start a relationship, lose your virginity, get over the sex thing (it'll take a few months), then come back when you're a man.

*think

I had two relationships. How about you stop projecting? White knighting on the internet won't make you more attractive to cunts.

Fucked some girls, had a good relationship, still don't trust these hoes.

Just because your girlfriend is someone else's used up cum-rag doesn't make you anymore of a man than me.

this is the best post of this entire fucking thread.

the worst part of these threads is that they're perpetuated by people who haven't had more than 10 partners in their lives yet think they know how women work.

protip: if you had only two relationships in your entire life then calm the fuck down and understand that you don't know shit about women.

Why is the onus to change solely on men?

TIL you need to have more than 10 partners to know how the other gender works. That must explain why guys with a bunch of baby mamas are involved in domestic situations while having their wages garnished.

This is like taking advice on parenting from the Octomom.

Because when a given speaker is male, that means the given speaker is male. Thus, they only have control over themselves and trying to spend their life controlling and or outwardly critiquing their environment is likely a fruitless waste of time. It's generally missing the point, and strangely embracing a form of slavery no better than simply taking life into one's own hands and figuring what actually works.

>someone else's used up cum-rag
dude, you have serious issues. it's not like it's a bar of soap that gets smaller with use, you know.

aside from the fact that i'm very probably quite a bit older than you are and have had several relationships with girls of all sorts, sexually - from virgin to "cum-rag", to use your words - what makes me more of a man than you is that i acknowledge that it literally makes no difference whatsoever how many partners a woman has had, neither sexually nor for a relationship.

this guy is right on the money. i would add that if you're under 25, you should calm the fuck down and understand that you don't know shit about women. in terms of life, you guys simply need to lurk more. not be so fucking arrogant and opinionated; have an opinion, sure, but shut up every once in a while and listen what other people have to say.

You gotta be kidding me. Of course guys need more effort. It's simple it's been for thousands of years. One selects one agrees, of course the women have power to select whom. Old days were more simple for major average Joe. Selection process was closer to evolution. In today's society harder with complications that comes with it. Women do pick more sexual partners than before but the convergence of optimal standards in society has made the selection window tighter.

It's code for:

"I gave up sex for free in a fruitless effort to attract the most genetically fit men around me for many years before I finally realized that I was aiming too high, and no man that far out of my league was ever going to commit to a relationship with me. Now I'm looking for a less attractive man that doesn't get my pussy wet so he can take care of my kids."

Part of me is pissed off that good looking guys get bombarded with sex from young, naive women who hope that being a nympho can persuade him to put a ring on it. Then when they realize it doesn't work, all the sexual adventure is gone and they just want to "settle down". It's so unappealing. It's like she's screaming "You don't turn me on, but I guess I don't have a choice." Fuck all that noise. I'd rather have a less attractive girl that's super attracted to me. And you know she won't be faithful when she just "settled down", some hulking square-faced savage is going to come along and fuck her brains out in a laundromat, meanwhile coming within 20 miles of your bed gives her a headache. Fuck that life. Just keep swallowing that stud milk baby, you'll get lucky one of these days.

There's nothing biological about it, it's purely a social thing.

Like, society says that's not how a female should behave, so the guy grows hearing this and ends up repelling it.

Though I don't think men in general care about a girl's sexual past enough for it to be a dealbreaker, this is pretty much an /r9k/ myth.

Guys keep aiming for Barbies and wind up disappointed when she still yearns for her Ken. Sex, especially in the long-term, is the same with almost any woman. If you guys are happy together and like each other and she's attracted to you (not necessarily physically, it can be because of how you act - most women find most men ugly according to research), you'll have a good sex life, a good marriage, and will probably raise decent kids.

But noooo... Idiot guys want to marry Barbie and then complain when she acts like Barbie. In the meantime, all the mid-level girls who are interesting and nice aren't getting attention and so they go for Ken as well, when they'd rather have you instead exclusively.

>Though I don't think men in general care about a girl's sexual past enough for it to be a dealbreaker, this is pretty much an /r9k/ myth.

Guys flip their shit before, at, and after weddings when they find out that their bride slept with someone they know.

Speaking in terms of research, women with a large number of partners often have unfortunate pasts. That's fine, if you're aware of it, and are willing to help her through it. But you're kidding yourself if you think that promiscuous women are untroubled.

I'm not saying that you should expect to marry a virgin. But there a difference between guys and gals who sleep around. The guys have high self-esteem and the gals have low self-esteem.

You've got to turn a blind eye to evolution and psychology to think that a promiscuous woman isn't troubled.

Have you left your house to go pursue a romantic entanglement or have you just been hanging around the echochamber that is Veeky Forums?

>there's nothing biological about it.

Deciding to have children with a promiscuous woman puts you at risk for raising someone else's kids thus lowering your chances to pass on your genes. Skepticism of promiscuous women is biological, this is why men don't like women cheating on them, well besides cucks. The reason this doesn't apply the other way around is because a woman can't be tricked into raising someone else's kid.

This is also why being a stud isn't the same as being a whore, women control sexual dynamics in humans.

I'm seriously not sure why this results in so much angst on both sides. If you want nothing to do with promiscuous women..... then just avoid them completely. If you are so apprehensive about marriage...... then dont get married.

Literally no one is forcing you to marry a woman whose sexual past revolts you. The choice is literally yours.

>This is also why being a stud isn't the same as being a whore, women control sexual dynamics in humans.
Look at Islamic nations. It makes you wonder if that's what happens when you remove female sexual selection from the overall equation.

It really defends. All Muslim countries are either shit holes or have massive income inequality. America before women's suffrage was still the best country on Earth.