Do the Ilvermorny houses line up with the Hogwarts houses?

Ilvermorny is shit and has cemented Rowling has a hack that got lucky.

There is no fucking way that USA would onyl have one shitty school and ESPECIALLY a Hogwarts analogue with 4 houses

And Gryffindor is a lion. It's stupid.
It is weird that Europe has 3 or 4 schools(I think there might be a fourth) but all of North America has the 1.
But I would hardly say the American school being mostly lame is proof that Rowling is a hack. She clearly has talent as she wrote 7 of the best-selling books ever, spawned one of the biggest movie franchises ever, got TWO theme parks, and played a role in shaping a generation.
Ilvermorny being so heavily "inspired" by Hogwarts does seem lazy until you think about how American schools have always tried to emulate British schools. And I like that Rowling didn't back down to the SJW fags who got butthurt on behalf of the Native Americans. Fuck those idiots.

I went to Hogwarts not ilvermorny dammit

Well I guess when the wizards immigrated to America when the muggles discovered it they took their old culture and tried to build poor imitations of it. That's not too strange.

Well that's where your ignorance comes into play.

The reason they have 4 houses was because the founders were from Ireland and wanted to go to Hogwarts more than anything. But because they migrated to the US, they couldn't. So they made their own school (started off just a home-school for the 4 siblings), with a house system just like Hogwarts. They created the school like it intentionally.

As for there being only one school, there's a reason for that, too: the US is a new fucking country. The European schools had existed for centuries, teaching wizards and witches for generations. Ilvermorny was created early in the founding of the US, but the US is so young that no other school has been made yet. It's nothing about size, it's about history.

>got TWO theme parks
top kek

>She clearly has talent
KEK

Wizarding World Orlando, Wizarding World Hollywood.
You're an idiot.

You were supposed to say "good and cold".

No.

Actually, I think it's a pretty decent commentary on American positivism. Harry Potter is an allegory for the history of philosophy. Think about it: HP.

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Dude what the fuck is this thing supposed to be?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pukwudgie

A type of goblin.

>The reason they have 4 houses was because the founders were from Ireland and wanted to go to Hogwarts more than anything. But because they migrated to the US, they couldn't. So they made their own school (started off just a home-school for the 4 siblings), with a house system just like Hogwarts.
That's a cute excuse for not having to come up with something original.

How sincere is this thread?

Why not? In real life the UK only has one good school and the US has like 8

Why wouldn't it be sincere? I've been a fan of Harry Potter since I was 10 or 11 years old. My interest has been reignited by the new movies, the new play, and Wizarding World Hollywood opening(I live a short drive from there).

>a cat
>a bird
>a snake
>some other thing

Yeah they line up perfectly. Clearly whichever came first got ripped off by the 2nd one.

i honestly thought this was a joke because of the name "wampus" until i googled it. what is the excuse for this poor version of the OG hogwarts houses

Based on how American schools have always imitated British schools.
The four houses are pretty lame though. Not nearly as much creativity in them as the four Hogwarts houses. The American houses don't even have their own colors. How the fuck do they make Quidditch uniforms?

>Ilvermorny being so heavily "inspired" by Hogwarts does seem lazy until you think about how American schools have always tried to emulate British schools.
If you read the accompanying short story about the foundress, you learn that the similarities were entirely deliberate as she was trying to recreate what she had heard stories of growing up. The houses are named for local creatures rather than founders, which seems in line with American mascot culture.

Also, pretty sure Horned Serpent is a "good" variant of Slytherin, given that it's the house named by one of Salazar's descendants... and, you know, it's represented by a serpent.

>The United States has not produced as many world-class Quidditch teams as other nations because the game has had to compete with the American broom game Quodpot. A variant of Quidditch, Quodpot was invented by the eighteenth-century wizard Abraham Peasegood, who had brought a Quaffle with him from the old country and intended to recruit a Quidditch team. The story goes that Peasegood's Quaffle had inadvertently come into contact with the tip of his wand in his trunk, so that when he finally took it out and began to throw it around in a casual manner, it exploded in his face. Peasegood, whose sense of humour appears to have been robust, promptly set out to recreate the effect on a series of leather balls and soon all thought of Quidditch was forgotten as he and his friends developed a game which centered around the explosive properties of the newly renamed "Quod."
>There are eleven players a side in the game of Quodpot. They throw the Quod, or modified Quaffle, from team member to member, attempting to get it into the "pot" at the end of the pitch before it explodes. Any player in possession of the Quod when it explodes must leave the pitch. Once the Quod is safely in the "pot" (a small cauldron containing a solution which will prevent the Quod exploding), the scorer's team is awarded a point and a new Quod is brought onto the pitch. Quodpot has had some success as a minority sport in Europe, though the vast majority of wizards remain faithful to Quidditch.
- Quidditch Through the Ages 44-45
tl;dr, they're too busy playing broomstick Hot Potato.

Goddamn that's stupid. It's not even a competitive sport. Americans wouldn't take the competition and brutality out of Quidditch, they would fucking multiply it. Americans would be savages on the Quidditch field while the Europoors are pretending they got fouled.

Why does Hogwarts even have a "Racist Asshole" house?

The houses were founded by individuals with their own ideas of magic and magical education. Salazar Slytherin thought that only witches and wizards born to long-lived, established magical lineages should be educated in the ways of magic. And that view has persisted with a lot of the "upper crust" in the wizarding world, which leads to children being sorted into Slytherin because of their asshole tendencies. Like Draco Malfoy. He just did what his dad did.

Why does Hogwarts only have 1 (one) house that cares about the culture and insular integrity of people of a magical persuasion? Wizarding world for the wizards.

Because the Wizarding world hasn't been taken over by liberals.

Also it's fiction and it's easier to write a group of "bad guys" than give any real depth to the houses.

Because the other wizards knew that excluding 99% of wizards would lead to wizard culture dying out. A prominent wizard lineage can be ended in 1 accident.
The houses do have a lot of depth and lore, it's just not touched on in the movies. Slytherin isn't really the "bad guy" house, it's just where a lot of assholes get sorted. But a lot of assholes also get sorted into Gryffindor because Gryffindor is basically the frathouse of Hogwarts. Gryffindor is jocks, Hufflepuff is dweebs, Ravenclaw is nerds and weirdos, Slytherin is ambitious.

Hufflepuff should have been the artist, singer, writer, house for creative fuckers. I mean shit "Hufflepuff" even sounds like wizard slang for smoking weed. Would have made them a hell of a lot more interesting than the "nice guy, minimum wage, assembly line worker house".

You'd probably actually have people wanting to be in Hufflepuff rather than it being the "you're too shitty for a real house" house.

>Because the other wizards knew that excluding 99% of wizards would lead to wizard culture dying out.
typical leftist cuck. you literally just believe whatever shit old bumblebee shovels into your fucking gob.

There are a lot of people who love Hufflepuff. I don't get it, but there's tons of them. At Wizarding World Hollywood and Orlando I saw more people wearing Hufflepuff robes and/or clothing than Ravenclaw.

>math makes you a leftist cuck

just because some floridians in their thirties genuinely hope to be invited to a british children's boarding school doesn't mean that they shouldn't realistic with their expectations
rowling literally ends the cursed child by saying that everything salazar ever wanted was correct so I don't know why we are even talking.

Hufflepuff house pride is how they cope with being in the reject house. Source: experience

Just like how the American settlers came up with so much new shit, right?

This desu, being placed in the house with a reputation for losers just makes you band together all the harder, to the point of fanatical rivalry against the "cool" house.

t. Hodgetts House
Fuck you Orchard
House volleyball champs 4 years running SUCK IT

>Horned Serpent

That's like literally taking the god of a people and turning it into a highschool mascot, holy shit. It's like getting sorted into YHWH house or something.

I'm fine with the fact that a lot of the HP universe doesn't really hold up if you really think about it because they're fucking fantasy YA books, but the house system in Hogwarts is the one thing that immediately breaks suspension of disbelief for me with how poorly thought out and contrived it is.

>almost literally the good guys, the bad guys, the nerds, and everyone else not special enough to be in a real house

She can backpedal as much as she wants saying that Gryffindors can be arrogant and that Hufflepuffs have more integrity or whatever but that doesn't change how cartoonish and simplistic the houses are in the book

>just because some floridians in their thirties genuinely hope to be invited to a british children's boarding school doesn't mean that they shouldn't realistic with their expectations
Can you read? This response literally had nothing to do with what you quoted.
>rowling literally ends the cursed child by saying that everything salazar ever wanted was correct so I don't know why we are even talking.
OK, so you definitely can't read.

But they're not that cartoonishly simplistic. Voldemort had dark wizards from every house but Hufflepuff. Gryffindor was home to troublemakers and dullards. Ravenclaw produced the second most dark wizards. Gilderoy Lockhart was a Ravenclaw. The Hufflepuffs were massive assholes to Harry every time something happened to make him look bad.

>backpedal
>forgetting Neville was a Gryffindor, Cedric was a Hufflepuff, Hermione was a Gryffindor, Luna was a Ravenclaw, and Merlin was a Slytherin

>tfw ravenclaw and thunderbird on pottermore
who else feeling real good right now

I got Slytherin and Horned Serpent. They don't seem like equivilent houses, but the shared snake motif is appreciated.
And who's butt is that?

I'm also a Slytherin (favorite house, just barely dodged Ravenclaw) and a Horned Serpent.

Thought HS is Ravenclaw-ish, I think it's more Slytherin since Isolt Sayre was a descendant of Salazar Slytherin and a Parselmouth. I kinda like it.

Also, dat butt is Scarlet Johansson.

James Potter and the Marauders were bullies as children, so they're kind of the shitty part of Gryffindor. Plus, Peter Pettigrew was a Gryffindor, and he was Voldemort's right-hand man... in more ways than one.

Professor Quirrel was a Ravenclaw, too.

>James Potter and the Marauders were bullies as children
Sirius was a bully as an adult. When Severus confronted him and Lupin in PoA he reverted right back to his shitty Hogwarts self.

That's right, though Snape was going to go along with the framing and allow Sirius to get his soul sucked out.

Also, Ravenclaw has a fair share of bullies, too, since a lot of them like to steal Luna's things and hide them. Plus, in Rowling's Slytherin introduction on Pottermore, it's confirmed that there's a lot of academic backstabbing involved there.

dumb post. he was severely unbalanced after spending his adult life in azkaban. severus is more of a fucking bully than james and sirius combined.

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Pretty neat.

I'm Gryffindor & Horned Serpent. I wouldn't say they line up that well.

>there's a reason for that, too: the US is a new fucking country

Shut the fuck up. USA has a population of over 300 million people now. That's 5 times the size of UK.

A tiny school wouldn't be able to sustain the population demands of USA magical education.

Not to mention the sheer staggering variety of immigrants here. Why would Asian immigrants with Asian magical practical want to send their children to diet Hogwarts to learn? Or mestizo warlocks? Hell, even Italian wizards with magic heavily rooted in Catholicism/Vatican magic wouldn't send their kids there.

No man. There's at least 5 different magical schools in USA with each teaching/researching different magic

Sincere thread seriously discussing the Harry Potter world

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>That's right, though Snape was going to go along with the framing
Snape had no reason to believe it was a frame-up. Sirius' supporters weren't exactly credible and Snape had seen no evidence that Sirius never actually killed Wormtail. He overheard what he thought to be a plot to kill Harry and intervened like a fucking boss.
>severus is more of a fucking bully than james and sirius combined.
That's retarded. They tortured Snape for 7 years. Sirius was always an asshole. He never felt bad about how he treated Snape.
>tfw your wand is only 12.5"
>There's at least 5 different magical schools in USA with each teaching/researching different magic
wat
>let's get back to telling each other how shitty everyone else's opinions on books are, guiz

>Shut the fuck up.

No.

>USA has a population of over 300 million people now. That's 5 times the size of UK.

Yeah, population now sure matters when it's about a school in the 1920s.

>A tiny school wouldn't be able to sustain the population demands of USA magical education.

Pulled that out of your, I see.

>Not to mention the sheer staggering variety of immigrants here. Why would Asian immigrants with Asian magical practical want to send their children to diet Hogwarts to learn? Or mestizo warlocks? Hell, even Italian wizards with magic heavily rooted in Catholicism/Vatican magic wouldn't send their kids there.

What makes you think Wizards even immigrate like Muggles? They can teleport.

>No man. There's at least 5 different magical schools in USA with each teaching/researching different magic

Pretty fucking roomy up that ass, eh?

To be fair, Ilvermorny wouldn't be one of the top 11 wizarding schools (12 if you count Koldovstoretz) in the world if it was just "diet" Hogwarts. Of course, they'd have other school scattered across the US, but none as good as Ilvermorny.

>Outside of general education, the wizarding world offers specialised schools of learning as well. Such schools include the Academy of Broom Flying, Charm School, and the Wizarding Academy of Dramatic Arts.

harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Wizarding_school

I kinda want to go to Durmstrang.

>I kinda want to go to Durmstrang.
It's like a military boarding school to make dark wizards. You would be happier working at Hot Topic, guy.

Tried it for the first time and got Hufflepuff and Wampus.

JUST

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>yfw all slytherin wants to do is make the wizarding world great again

>yfw Trump is too stupid to be a Slytherin
>yfw you realize that makes him dumber than Crabbe and Goyle

its the flying serpent you pagan

No, mate. Horned Serpent's a motif in Native art in the Southeastern Ceremonial Complex. You can find them from the Mississippi to the Rockies. Horned Serpent's a symbol of life, renewal, water, and the good aspects of the underworld. Similar to Quetzalcoatl in Central America.

You could try being Slytherin/Winged Serpent with a Dragon Heartstring wand like me. Would be rather be a JUST or a MEGA EDGELORD?

Our core values are ambition, cunning and determination. We just happen to have a some assholes because many pure-blood wizard families traditionally get in there, like the Malfoy's, Black's and Gaunt's.

But seriously, the reader's views on Slytherin is mostly based on Harry Potter's firsthand account of them, usually Draco and his posse. Adding in Gryffindor's rivalry, there's a fair bit of bias, too.

*Horned Serpent

My bad.

>They tortured Snape for 7 years
I'm not defending that, but they grew up after whereas severus just joined the dark lord and was literally responsible for the death of harry's parents. he probably murdered/tortured a lot of people seeing as he was a death eater for years. i actually cant stand when people defend this asshole. even when he left the Dark Side he was constantly fucking bullying actual children. he was an emotionally retarded piece of shit. remember when neville's boggart was snape? as in, literally the thing he feared most? i hate that that was played for laughs, because it has really fucked up implications. and then harry named his shit kid after this guy and the man who manipulated him and made the first 11 years of his life hell.
fuck snape.
fuck dumbledore.
fuck YOU.

>Financial success means a person is a talented artist
No.

what a fucking dissapointment, I always thought americans played a magical variant of Handegg

alsofucking americans would own the "brutality" of Quidditch

this, worldbuilding when not involving Harry or Voldemorth is shit in the books

so Slythering is like an Ivy league school

Got Ravenclaww/Horned serpent and my wand is made of Alder with a Dragon string

what did they mean by this? seems like I'm one of those know it all jackasses... althought the wand description is pretty rad, atleast Alder is made for non verbal spells, a battle shouldn't be an anime were you yell your next move

>I'm not defending that, but they grew up after
Only Lupin and Harry's dad grew up. Wormtail became fucking Wormtail and Sirius never grew a conscience or grew up. They say right in the books that he doesn't feel bad for his dickish behavior and that hanging out with Harry and Ron makes him revert to his old ways because he's so fucking immature.
>whereas severus just joined the dark lord and was literally responsible for the death of harry's parents.
You just went full retard. Wormtail and Voldemort killed Harry's parents whereas Snape joined Dumbledore before that even happened.
>he probably murdered/tortured a lot of people seeing as he was a death eater for years.
That's a stretch, seeing as how Voldemort like to torture and kill his victims himself.
>i actually cant stand when people defend this asshole. even when he left the Dark Side he was constantly fucking bullying actual children.
Yeah, he was an asshole. Rowling and Rickman both agreed that Snape wouldn't have given a shit about Harry if he weren't Lily's son. But that doesn't make other assholes not assholes.
>he was an emotionally retarded piece of shit. remember when neville's boggart was snape? as in, literally the thing he feared most? i hate that that was played for laughs, because it has really fucked up implications.
That was funny because Neville was such a timid little shit that couldn't stop fucking up. No other students were that terrified of Snape.
>and then harry named his shit kid after this guy and the man who manipulated him and made the first 11 years of his life hell.
Dumbledore was the much bigger asshole of the two, and Harry already named his first son after his father.
>fuck snape.
>fuck dumbledore.
>fuck YOU.
I think you're taking this shit a little too seriously, lad.

>writing stories that resonated with tens of millions of people and created a lasting fanbase makes you a talentless hack
Full retard.

Means you'd be sorted into the smart/weird house and the smart/scholarly house.
What was the rigidity and length of the wand?

So... is Rowling ever going to dare address just what the wizarding world's relation to Christianity is? Or what its relation to religion in general is?

Part of the Ilvermorny history involves the Salem Witch trials(and the like) iirc.

They aren't direct parallels and the schools don't have the same dynamic. I assure you it's much less boring, which is why the series was based on hogwarts and not some other fictional school.

>You just went full retard. Wormtail and Voldemort killed Harry's parents whereas Snape joined Dumbledore before that even happened.

Snape overhears the prophecy being told in the pub and relays the information to Voldy.

Dumbass. Once he realises that he's going after Lily he flakes.

12" slightly springy flexibility, is it a good wand?

>That's a stretch, seeing as how Voldemort like to torture and kill his victims himself.

not true as well. neville's parents were tortured by death eaters. hell, throughout the 6th and 7th book there's mention of muggles being killed in storms created by death eaters. Even some members of the order tell harry that it started like this the last time voldermort gained power.

You really are a self-righteous prick.

Dumbass.

A bit short but good.
That's pretty goddamn indirect since he didn't know who the prophecy was about and Voldemort had plenty of people inside the Ministry(who would have known about the prophecy), and the Potters were already on Voldemort's shitlist. They were enemy combatants, so to speak, and would have been killed anyway.
Neville's parents were tortured by Death Eaters AND Voldemort. It's why Neville flinches people say Voldemort.
>self-righteous
I don't think you know what that means.

what I really would like her to write is some short story or something about how the WW dealt with World War 2, it could be an interesting take on the Harry Potter universe, there were already rumors that Hitler and his inner circle were involved with the Occult and all that Thulean society mumbo jumbo, hell she could make a series about that but I don't think she has the balls to write some gritty war story involving wizards

>some German wizards and warlocks descendants from Thule (let's make it a real wizarding place) like Hitler, they think Germany deserves to rule Europe
>At odds with the Wizard confederation, they go rogue and introduce themselves to Hitler under the guise of some Thulean fuckery
>Wizarding world introduces themselves to world leaders (there's groundwork for that, the ministry of magic had relations with the Prime Minister of England in one book if my memory serves me well)
>The War is more than what normal people know, the world is watching wizards fighting along normal troops...
>Thule warlocks device some uber spell that will wipe the allies (think magical nuke)
>D-day is an operation to stop those bastards, on the shores of normandy machigun fire and killing spells come from both sides
>Allies push into Berlin
>Climatic battle in the Reichstag between Allied Wizards and Thulean Warlocks
>To protect the wizarding world The Wizard confederation comissions a non lethal memory altering nuke made by their most powerful members
>They wipe the minds of everyone making them believe WW2 happened as we all know it happened

the protagonists should be a group of 3-5 wizards that were assigned to some famous company, we see camaraderie, some romance between a muggle and wizard, some fuck who betrays them you know your usual tropes

I think it might be good, might write some fanfiction about it hehehe

That's pretty pleb-tier, bro. Extremely derivative.

hey I know it's derivative, it doesn't mean it can be fun, I mean her books are not exactly patrician thought provoking pieces of literature, but they are fun books nonetheless

This here was a man all about bum wine and you men let him down.

She already did. That's what Dumbledore vs Grindelwald was about. Grindelwald was that generation's Dark Lord and was fucking shit up in Europe. Dumbledore even defeated him in 1945.

Slytherin/Pukwudgie, a traditionalist who cares deeply about his own

I actually tried to get Pukwudgie to see the blurb and shit but couldn't manage.

USA USA USA