Seriously guys, give me a viable fucking solution to overpopulation

Step 1: Legalize euthanasia for all who volunteer (including children).
Step 2: Stop sending aid to child-shitting countries and stop taking immigrants from child-shitting countries.
Step 3: Make any kind of national welfare system dependent on non-reproduction. If the poor want money, they have to forgo children.
Step 4: Let children earn their own money by selling labor and sex, so at least they carry more of their own weight.
Step 5: Reduce pensions and healthcare for old people. If they complain, point out step 1.

Make it count. Remember, you have to get them all or they'll just regrow again.

Over saturate the global population with education.

Seriously highly educated people have less kids and entire populations with high education obtainment have birth rates with moderately low levels.

Don't use war and don't use disease that shit actually accelerates population growth because children are seen as "capital" in those situations.

>every person on earth can fit inside texas with 1200 sq ft each
>over populatard

This could actually work, but good luck winning elections with it. Perhaps a dictator could pull it off.

That's not what it means and you know it.

Gas muslims. All of them.

Most of the worlds population growth is slowing down and even decreasing in some places (Japan). The real problem is africa billions of them are going to be coming into existence within the next couple decades.

natural selection
now stop being edgy

Force adoption. End the life of one half of those who procreate.

A terraformed Mars is what we need.

No, we need a magic curse like in Once Upon a Time my favority TV documentary.

I am an Elon Musk fanboy and the biggest idiot ever.

Pretty much, the idea of self regulation when it comes to breeding protocols is completely off the table. One short lived religious cult reviled sex in general and quickly died out.

Only Christians would be down with that then you get a world full of that team, and into another dark ages where all those solutions manifest, it will probably be plague again but with modern medicine perhaps depletion of critical resources. When fossil fuels get seriously depleted there go a few billion minimum.

>what is china?
srsly the one child policy or some more clever version of that could be the most human and controllable way of doing this.

>le overpopulation
>eugenics
>terraformed mars

sure is meme science in here

>Only Christians would be down with that then you get a world full of that team, and into another dark ages where all those solutions manifest, it will probably be plague again but with modern medicine perhaps depletion of critical resources. When fossil fuels get seriously depleted there go a few billion minimum.

This is an 18+ website buddy

and your solution is ?

China repealed it's one child policy last year after it realised it was heading for a demographic bomb. I'm going to say it again, annual growth rates have been declining since the 60/70's.

Poison food aid.

Bullshit, it was never meant to last that long and they didn't "repeal" it, they replaced it with a 2-child-policy. Compare with the niggers who still shit out 5 children per woman.

If anything, China has an overpopoulation of old people now.

Lets get one thing staight here user we white people can produce as much kids as we want, its the blacks, east asians, and indians that need to take a slow down on their fucking. So focus on them and not the entire planet ok OP.

t. baby boomer with 5 children and wife with yet another pregnancy

Christ user why are you so aggressive? Did a chink molest you? Also if you remove one policy and replace it with another, you've repealed it.

You write bullshit, I call bullshit. If you can't handle the truth, fuck off and go to disney.com or something.

What you meant was
POOR educated people have less kids.

I've never in my life meet a very rich smart person that didn't have over 10 kids with different wives.

But it wasn't bullshit. China is heading for a demographic bomb, it has repealed it's one child policy, and global annual growth rates have been declining. The first two are clear, the last see here:
>data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.POP.GROW

Contraceptives.

nature has a self-regulative mechanism that prevents overpopulation
no need for a solution

Hey Malthus, what ya doing?

This is the "more clever version" on my part. It was kinda wrong how they did it, but in a serious case of overpopulation (this is the base assumption, even if the reality is slightly different), i dont see any other way to solve such a problem.

Make a law that forbids having children unless you have a minimum amount of resources and studies.

Im fucking tired of the scum that has many children but is poor as fuck and doesn't have any education.They can't even sustain themselves and end up as beggars in the street.Those people deserve to be beaten up and jailed for being so fucking cancerous to society.

B-b-but user, eugenics is for bad goys! We must provide for the poor and helpless needy and the 9 offspring they chose to have!

Stop giving aid to African and other third world shit holes. When we give them aid, they don't learn anything and they just increase their rates of reproduction since they have more free shit coming in to sustain increased populations. There is zero reason to send aid to sub-human third world countries when all it does is cause their populations to grow and thus making them require even more aid in an endless cycle.

Jesus will come back before 2100 so don't worry

Pretty much. It's completely fucked, but we are akin to cancer.

OK, and how are we going to get billions of people to Mars?

Faggots historically always whine about overpopulation but in reality never happens.

That's because it turns out that humans don't only come out with a mouth but also a pair of hands and a brain. The more humans there are around the more work can be done and more importantly, the greater the chance for inventions and discoveries.

That said, physically speaking this can't be averted forever (although we have no evidence that the Earth can't support 10bil, no problems). However, at that point there is another observation to be made. That well-off societies tend to have small birthrates (if not outright shrinking).

Thus, far from all that edgy "gas the poor" stuff, the objective ought to simply be to make everyone western-like middle class.

Not only will this enormously help the economy (since only rich people buy crap).
Not only this would enormously help science/engineering (since you need to have some free time to study/think rather than work a field all day or beg)
But it would solve overpopulation as well if not begin reversing it.

Perhaps, but I'd still rather kill everyone.

Abolition of welfare

there is no problem of overpopulation in europe, so i guess just do what they're doing. not having 10 children per family could be a good start.

Doesn't work. Some people will always keep breeding, and those will inherit the world. I wonder who that might be...

The problem is migration.

You almost got it.
The only reason any country gives "aid" is to get something in return. Most famously, resources.

Yes, because countries with comprehensive welfare systems tend toward higher population growth than countries with poor or no welfare systems.

>What is zakat?
>>>/reddit/

Fuck off rapefugee lover. No work, no money.

Remove all welfare.

>preparing people to be useful.

So that they can develop economically specialised societies, infrastructure and manage their own national resources?

Where the fuck would we get our resources from at the dirt cheap prices we do today?

Think about what you're saying, user.

eugenics

Cheap food resultant of subsidized grain farming, keeps the poor over fed and ready to breed.

Therefore, you'd have to abolish corporate welfare too.

Yeah obviously. Giving them tax breaks are a ridiculous and unjust idea to begin with

Treated as a national problem, it's sort of fixed. Developed Western countries don't really have a problem with the native populations' growth. Other factors such as immigration and non-native populations are the only things really influencing population growth. And, honestly, I don't think that in our political climate it's possible to "fix" those in any meaningful way (although, I am very political pessimist).

As a global problem, the "issue" is "developing" countries. We would need to spend a great deal of time, effort, and money on these places to educate, improve their infrastructure, and ... speaking frankly .. "culturally enrich" them (which may or may not be ethically permissible or morally justifiable depending on how you look at it). In short, it is a huge barrier that I think we are unlikely to overcome.

Another consideration is that no one is a paragon of reason, and next to no one acts on purely rationality alone. It's similar to the global warming issue [whether you actually believe in global warming or not is besides the point, so don't get distracted]: the people who happen to believe in global warming and are trying to affect environmental policy, are having the exact same issues that people with population concerns are and will continue to have. That is, that people don't just looks at some population stats and say "oh shit, better not have kids then". Even if you do this, even if many people make that conscious decision, the overwhelming majority don't. So your job wouldn't just be a case of activism, you would have to fundamentally subvert the motivating factors that lead people to child rearing. Much like subverting the culture of developing countries, this may or may not be ethically and morally sound.

One last consideration is that the "right" thing isn't always perceived as being the most ethically desirable.

And how do you force them to obey such laws/adapt it into real life in 3rd world shithole where there is no active state/law enforcment exist?
I agree with you,but it would cause a massive civil war.
Many problem in the western world comes from abusing personal rights,and neglecting personal responsibility.

You could always start a foundation that pays poor women to get their tubes tied. Some women did a similar thing for drug addicts and it went okay.

nwo fuck off

So you can take care an insignificant amount of the problem like 0,5%?The problem is more complex and disperse to solve it like this...

you gotta start somewhere.

1:There would be a lot of misuse,and an administration mistake could be fatal.
2.Partially agree with that.
3.And how would it effect the economy in the long term?
4:And how would it save humanity,if it destroys the next generation?
5.They paid for it,so it would be stealing.It would be better if you could choose to pay it or not,and live with the consequences of your decision.

It's just a temporary solution.Like giving morphine to a last stadium bone cancer patient.You won't get rid of the cancer,just vanquish the symptoms.

Firstly you don't understand how international aid works, like most people who claim we should 'stop giving people free money' as if that's what actually happens, and secondly life expectancy is inversely proportional to population growth rate. There's a reason why the countries with the highest growth rates are Afghanistan and the Congo.

The actual answer is education, especially education of women, and family planning availability such as contraceptives and guidance counselling. The population of a country closely resembles a sine wave as a high birth, high mortality country becomes a high birth, low mortality country becomes a low birth, low mortality country. It's happened in every developed nation and it's happening in every developing nation.

Furthermore, 'overpopulation' isn't actually a problem because there's no hard cap on how many people can exist on the planet at once, only on total resource usage. There is already vastly more food and energy being produced than is needed, it's just that so much energy and manpower is used on making newer and shinier gadgets for those living in rich nations. The 'unwashed masses' people complain of that exist in Africa and Asia obviously use far fewer resources per person than citizens of developed nations - the problem is that they want to live like the citizens of developed nations and the planet can't support 7-10 billion people with that lifestyle.

Vote for the worst of leaders, they will cut your freedom. And make us slaves. Wage wars for ulterior reasons. Induce social anxiety, false or bullshit news, marketing and trading, consumerism is filtered roughly by things that humans find attracted. Burn one generation, make the next generation prone to early life abuse. Same as Japan.

Control the conformity, control the population.

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>ebil white whales

>ctrl+f 'white'
>zero in my post
I wonder if someone's fixated on something

Either way, education is how you solve it and if you think otherwise you don't know shit

Describe the rich nations,or the nations who lives up the vast majority of the resources.

Do you think we didn't have the means to fix the problem?

Why? 'Race' (on top of being biologically undefined) is irrelevant anyway, humans en masse all act the same

>a thing one guy did one time changes how to reduce population growth in developing nations
I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make anyway

So you are part of the problem?

>literally no arguments
>triggered into shouting buzzwords

>humans en masse all act the same
the statistics say otherwise

but statistics deal with human en masse

Well, yes and no because I'm well educated and don't plan on having many children but I also have this expensive computer made using using lots of energy and rare elements.

But I'm not advocating genocide of myself or others because of that, whereas other people in this thread seem to be - not realising that such a thing would only massively spike the growth rate.

If you want a radical solution, ban pet ownership and ban almost all meat eating (it's efficient to still have a few pigs and goats, as they eat farm waste, and a few cows and sheep as they maintain certain grassland habitats and you might as well eat them afterwards). Bam, the planet can now support a much larger number of people, easily enough to cover the projected maximum population. Good luck convincing developed nations to give up their Big Macs and developing nations to give up their dreams of Big Macs though.

Show me some then!

But people living in poverty have smaller carbon footprint...
Anyway,according to your logic smart people should be the ones who reproduce more.So you are doing more harm than good.

SEX
ED

Create a viable nuclear fusion reactor and you don't need to solve overpopulation.

>smart people
Smart people are ones with education. The vast majority of the world isn't as smart as it could be, and that's because they aren't educated. There isn't a passable gene that makes you have access to schooling - and for that reason, fewer children is better because you can then afford to make them all smart. Besides which, the goal is a lower population and that's how you get it.

Also, you can increase your life expectancy, live comfortably and be educated without increasing your carbon footprint much. It's the lifestyle that is the main issue, and most of all the lust for meat and gadgets. Yes, it's going to get hairy as the population maxes out but by the time the people of developing nations have lifestyles and resource usage on par with developed nations the world will be well over the peak.

>smart
>not enough to get enough money with smartness provide quality education to 5 or more children
Or how do you meassure "smartness"?
Anyway there will be a cap for people with small carboon footprint,so it's still just a temprorary solution.
And how do you think the uneducated masses will solve their problem?

>Faggots historically always whine about overpopulation but in reality never happens.

yeah, except in all those 3rd world countries where people are constantly starving and at war with each other

>But user It's not because of overpopulation...
They are uneducated.That's the cause.

The Final Solution

The Chinese are doing it right. But you also need closed borders or else it doesn't help.

No, the cause is that there are too many people in a given space.

better quality of life

What argument are you trying to make here

Trump supporter spotted

do you have proof ?

Overpopulation is a self correcting problem.

As a society's quality of life and intelligence go up, birth rate goes down. Populations are already on the decline in first world countries that don't mass import immigrants.

>overpopulation

>underpopulation

A well placed meteorite of sufficient size would solve the problem.