Was he right?

>Technology makes our live easier.
This is particularly true for the disabled, something often forgotten by anti technology people.

>western europe is the world

This is a problem in and of itself. Too many people are alive and those that are are so soft that they might as well not be. They are like blobs of jelly with no connection to their land, people, body nor craft.

>helping the disabled is a universal, axiomatic good and signifies "progress"

no

Those people might not survive in the wild, in some emergency situations - but so what? It rarely happens, and just to very few people. In today's world you better know programming than hunting an animal.
Being a blob of jelly means flexibility.

>Technology makes our live easier.
It makes tasks easier but it obscures the focus of life...dank memes

I hope you break your legs.

what does that have to do with "progress"

It is baffling that you actually think your so-called progress is indefinite and that this state will be perpetual.

Nothing. Just want you to break your legs.

want away, prole

>look guise I can recognize an ideology
(You) kids sure do make me lol

by what arbitrary criteria is the world "getting better every day", and on what time scale?

just admit you're a naive, shallow thinker and be done with it

I resemble that remark

kind of

hello, i have posted in a similar thread a while ago.
i think the former faggot was into "is it okay to be a luddite?" by pynchon

i like what john zerzan sais about it. he's also being interviewed in a film called "surplus - terrorized into being consumers"

if you're into philosophy you'll have to look into heidegger: "The question concerning technology"

then there's jacques ellul's "The technological Society",which influenced kaczynski greatly and is a more elaborate read than unabombers manifesto.

however i think the topic is best explained by movies,ironic as it is:

Pandora's Box and All Watched over by Machines of Loving Grace by ADAM CURTIS

and The Net: The Unabomber, LSD and the Internet by Lutz Dammbeck

USA's national hero HD Thoreau also has it figured out imo.

funnily enough Thoreau and Kaczinski are connected through the whole earth catalogue by Stuart Brand, that took Thoreau's cabin from Walden as a model that got copied by Kaczinsky and Brand is a technophile and inventor of the Well.

JUST WATCH THE FUCKING MOVIES then start reading

maybe the spookiest thing about technology is that there's no regression. or at least there never has been. "We create technologies and then we mold ourselves to our use of them."
if people don't become super technology conscious (there is a trend to turn off smartphones and use less cars but globally its still the oposite) the only possibilty is revolution. thank god the current economic system is fragile as fuck. when shit goes down, no oil is available and anarchist utopia arrives

I don't think he was right but I know if I agree with him I'll get $1 so yes

He was wrong. You can solve almost all our problems by keeping the population really low. It would not even halt technological progress, though there would be less gadgets around. The proof is that the western world reached Quantum physics in the early 1900s with a global population of 1.5bn, of which only a fraction was living in the western world.

overpopulation is not the problem. one person can sustain the lives of several others by physical labor, so the more we are the easier it gets.
we could easily sustain a good living standard with 25bn+ people in an agrarian society without any electronic technology.

>one person can sustain the lives of several others by physical labor

marxist cucks pls go

If the last two world wars started there what makes you think the third one will be somewhere else?

helping each other predates marxism user

Thank you user.

He was always too smart for society to appreciate, even if it could've tried. His diagnosis of the problems which befuddle society are largely correct, but lacked the wisdom to realize there is no "solution" in the sense humans desire.

>fascism
>bad
>>>/leftypol/

dont call me 'faggot'

Reminder that people legitimately thought Pynchon was the unabomber because of his writings.

I use GNU/Linux with non-proprietary software and BIOS.

I'm literally part of the solution.

Kek.

no, he was left.

he was right about leftist politics and modern art, wrong in many ways about technology

Yes, but the problem he sees won't be fixed. The technophiles have already won

Watching the All Watched documentaries now, almost finished with the first one. I'm really surprised at how the United States can manage to be such a shithole and fuck everyone else in the process so much. Fuck that country and their delusional mentality.

>maybe the spookiest thing about technology is that there's no regression.

> What is true of one man, said the judge, is true of many. The people who once lived here are called the Anasazi. The old ones. They quit these parts, routed by drought or disease or by wandering bands of marauders, quit these parts ages since and of them there is no memory. They are rumors and ghost in this land and they are much revered. The tools, the art, the building--these things stand in judgement on the latter races. Yet there is nothing for them to grapple with. The old ones are gone like phantoms and the savages wander these vanyons to the sound of an ancient laughter. In their crude huts they crouch in darkness and listen to the fear seeping out of the rock. All progressions from a higher to a lower order are marked by ruins and mystery and a residue of nameless rage. So. Here are the dead fathers. Their spirit is entombed in the stone. It lies upon the land with the same weight and the same ubiquity. For whoever makes a shelter of reeds and hides has joined his spirit to the primal mud with scarcely a cry. But who builds in stone seeks to alter the structure of the universe and so it was with these masons however primitive their works may seem to us

ofcourse we can forget and discard technology but only by total collapse

>Kaczynski
>MKUltra
what an interesting coincidence

there wouldn't be the disabled in a hunter-gatherer society

the genetic lines would be weeded out, and the ones that do get born are summarily put out of their misery

>weeded out
Fine.

>put out of their misery.
Hahahahahahahahahaha.

please, if you think this hack has something then you dont know shit. he has no clue about what a society is and only develops the common sense notions into a pseudo primitivist rant.

It takes much more space per person to support hunter gatherers compared to early farmers, we're never going back to a hunter gatherer lifestyle, but the sustainability of food production is another topic.

What about the ones that get damaged in their lifetime. Since we are removing technology, I can assure you badly healed injuries will result in plenty of disabilities.
Not to mention not even hunting would be possible without tools ever since we climbed out of our trees. You'd have to life of fruit and insects or running down game and good luck trying that in Northern Europe or America.

He is referring to genetic disability I suppose.

Today, I didn't die from exposure, starvation or infectious disease.

You can whine as much as you want about degeneracy in the arts hurting your sensitive faggot sensibilities, but denying that many things have gotten much better is fucking retarded.

didn't Ted write a critique of anarcho-primitivism and all that, though?

Seconding Adam Curtis, by far my favourite documentary maker

Fewer humans killing humans, lower infant mortality and less death from starvation.

> I'm willfully ignorant

not an argument

bye bye!

t. triggered

The containment board exists for a reason lol

>he thinks dying is bad

Could you imagine a world where people were living centuries and everyone would have to take it upon themselves to commit suicide but society would still intervene. Could you imagine how horrible that world would be?

you should go back to your containment site, tumblr

"they are working on giving szchhhhh a guy three penises zschhhh genetic engineering schhh i am not kidding, and so on"

Who gives a shit?

This

It pretty much is.

has anyone read Ellul?

the technological society seemed like a lot of dense air blowing to me. no argument made beyond 'technology is bad' in the broadest sense possible

Why would I want to do that?

Good

No, he wrote a critique of (what he saw as) false utopianism projected onto the anarcho-primitivist framework. Zerzan's followers and 18 year old crust punks have basically decided that the Neolithic was a paradise free of all the oppressions of the modern age. Ted's critique basically said that if we were to actually transition into primitivistwhatever, it wouldn't necessarily be a fun life to live.

Just finished the Adam Curtis' documentary recommended above. That last episode fucked my mind so hard it gave me a headache and I'm going to sleep.

>playstation 2 was possible thanks to western companies driving nignogs to brutally kill each other

That's some grim stuff for someone who grew with videogames evading reality

Has anyone read My Twisted World by Elliot Rogers? Was he right?

Post pics of ur hard body working its ancestral lands plz

Genuinely underrated post.

He had good questions but shitty answers.

He was absolutely right as far as our society's future is concerned. The only thing I can't figure out is why he specifically said that his followers should be outgoing about their support of his views, and not secretive. He didn't want people that support his view to infiltrate positions of powers, but that seems like the only way anyone would be able to act on his ideas.

ratical.org/ratville/AoS/TheTechnologicalSociety.pdf

So science fiction is your counter argument?

today's science fiction is tomorrow's not-fiction

you do realize that SF is stagnating since the 1980s?
immortality is probably humanity's dream since forever. it's not going to happen and i also see no reason why it would be desirable
i'm 26 and i'm already bored with life

i'm 40% into it. don't think it's so bad

wonder how old Ted would feel about Pokemon Go and augmented-reality video games.

check this if you want to know more about him youtube.com/watch?v=fHxRuLT4FIE

>Ted was a well read smart person acting on a political basis
>Elliot was a butthurt manlet virgin with autism

Adam Curtis "Bitter Lake", his last documentary is also prety good. It talks about the history of Afghanistan and middle east geopolitics.