Truths that Veeky Forums refuse to accept

You don't need to read the Greeks to understand Nietzsche or Stirner, which are the only philosophers you need.

“I know my fate. One day my name will be associated with the memory of something tremendous — a crisis without equal on earth, the most profound collision of conscience, a decision that was conjured up against everything that had been believed, demanded, hallowed so far. I am no man, I am dynamite.”

>he didn't even understand who the guy with the lamp was
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Implying I need to read Plato to know the Cave allegory

Of course you do. Just because you wish to justify your own haphazard juvenile reading of Nietzsche to yourself doesn't mean others have to follow the same pseud path

yes it will be great when we have everyone acting like they are in their own Spy vs. Spy comic strip. You are probably the same people who think Sam Harris is doing a public service by going around telling people they have no free will (the truth of that matter notwithstanding).

if you don't have some understanding of Plato there's like no point in trying to read Nietzsche, OP is an idiot.

on the off chance this isn't bait of course.

can you move straight from Plato to nietzsche or do you need Schopenhauer first? what about Hegel and Kant?

you should have some understanding of Western ethics and moral philosophy more than anything I think.

Given Veeky Forums I wouldn't really put it past a Stirnerbot to believe something like this.

Plato to Nietzsche is okay, but make sure you at least wiki Descartes, Hume and Kant in between.

Unless you're interested in Nietzsche's critique of those philosophers. most of philosophy before Nietzsche and after Plato is just retarded people arguing about what we can know before experiencing the world.

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you need to read Hegel to understand Stirner

Nietzsche y need voltaire, pre socratics, rousseau, schopenhauer, plato.

No.

>you dont need to understand the Greeks to understand Nietzsche
How can people actually think this?
Did he not write the Birth of Tragedy?

>most of philosophy before Nietzsche and after Plato is just retarded people arguing about what we can know before experiencing the world
Have you ever read philosophy?

You don't 'need' any philosophers. I read for fun, user, not out of a necessity.

Just read Hegel and Kant because theyre great for their own sake.
Why read philosophy in a vacuum?

Might as well just read the wikipedia page for Camus so you know not to read philosophy at all.

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Please. Nietzsche was consumed with the Abyss staring at him. The Abyss and I get together every Monday night for shade room and cards.

If by Nietzsche and Stirner you mean Marx and Engels, maybe.

Well, sure, you're probably right enough. Reading the Greeks just makes it easier to understand any western philosophers.

I was the kind of idiot who first skipped the Greeks and a lot of other essential philosophers, I started with dialectical materialism though, not Nietzsche, but I got to him at some point.

Surely enough I could understand Nietzsche when I got to him - to some degree - but it took a lot more work, reading not only Nietzsche but a lot about Nietzsche as well. It was slow and incomplete reading, and not in a good way.

When I finally decided that philosophy won't only be for fun but also my career, well, I obviously started reading the essentials and attending classes. Momentarily, everything got a lot easier than it used to be. Shit makes a lot more sense when you don't just pick a random philosopher and read their works.