KIC 8462852 continues to lack infrared light

Followup observations have continued to see no evidence for an infrared light excess around KIC 8462852. A naturally occurring occluding body would need to reside in interstellar space, while the Spherical Dyson Swarm is likewise excluded, unless infrared light is being converted to another spectrum at the 99% efficiency limit for thermodynamics. Any artificial occluding device would need to possess non-isotropic dissipation of infrared light.

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home.fnal.gov/~carrigan/infrared_astronomy/Fermilab_search.htm
scientificamerican.com/article/alien-supercivilizations-absent-from-100-000-nearby-galaxies/
arxiv.org/abs/0811.2376
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technosignature
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>celestial bodies need to emit excess IR
They don't you dumbfuck. You got BTFO like 10 times already.

Fuck off back to your containment board

>thinks he's talking to the same person

And it's called black body radiation. All matter absorbs light, gets hot, and achieves equilibrium by emitting infrared light. The fact that it isn't there means that the naturally occurring body (or bodies) that's blocking the light presumably must reside in Interstellar space.

I said not excess IR light. Also you don't even know where the occluding body is positioned yet alone how much light it absorbs.

Please take this spam of a thread back to where it belongs

Man, I hope people post threads about this star forever just to sustain your unwarranted ass-pain.

Daily reminder that Dyson Sphere searches have come up with several candidates and it is open knowledge that is simply ignored.

Back to where you belong you cancerous shitposting manchild

>Back to where you belong you cancerous shitposting manchild
Daily reminder that Fermilab has active program searching for Dyson Spheres

home.fnal.gov/~carrigan/infrared_astronomy/Fermilab_search.htm
>The search focused on a temperature range of 100 to 600 �K leaving about 6521 sources. No cut was made on proximity to other sources. By doing this partial Dyson spheres were not ruled out. As noted on the Dyson Sphere look-alike page there are several natural surrogates that are difficult to rule out. Several cuts were used on the LRS sample to focus in on a Dyson Sphere signature.

fuck off to with your "ayyliums"

People are searching for aliens as well but we don't make threads about it on Veeky Forums as if they are confirmed and factually known.

So until anything changes, stay at

scientificamerican.com/article/alien-supercivilizations-absent-from-100-000-nearby-galaxies/

Provided he can get more funding, Wright intends to perform follow-up work investigating some of his survey’s strangest galaxies, looking for civilizations further down the Kardashev scale. He also hopes to examine a curious cluster of optically dark point sources just outside the Milky Way’s galactic plane that his team discovered by their infrared glows in the WISE data. The cluster is probably a previously unknown giant molecular cloud, an unmapped stellar nursery filled with protostars, Wright says. But “it’s also almost exactly what you’d expect a cluster of Dyson Spheres to look like.”

arxiv.org/abs/0811.2376
A Dyson Sphere is a hypothetical construct of a star purposely cloaked by a thick swarm of broken-up planetary material to better utilize all of the stellar energy. A clean Dyson Sphere identification would give a significant signature for intelligence at work. A search for Dyson Spheres has been carried out using the 250,000 source database of the IRAS infrared satellite which covered 96% of the sky. The search has used the Calgary database for the IRAS Low Resolution Spectrometer (LRS) to look for fits to blackbody spectra. Searches have been conducted for both pure (fully cloaked) and partial Dyson Spheres in the blackbody temperature region 100 < T < 600 K. When other stellar signatures that resemble a Dyson Sphere are used to eliminate sources that mimic Dyson Spheres very few candidates remain and even these are ambiguous.

Daily reminder that both WOW signal and Tabby's Star are in the direction of Vega Constellation and WOW signal came from the same area.

Try reading OP closer. The entire update basically says Ayyyes are less likely because there continues to be no evidence of the spectral signature you'd expect from large orbiting bodies, natural or artificial.

> you'd expect from large orbiting bodies, natural or artificial.
>or artificial
Only using our technology.
Folks on Centauri Dreams came with several ideas of Dyson objects which would do this.

>two unrelated pieces of data both from the same patch of millions of square light-years of space
>Same source
>Aliens confirmed
This is why no-one takes ufology seriously.
Annyway off to with you

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technosignature
>Another search for technosignatures involved an analysis of data from the Compton Gamma Ray Observatory for traces of anti-matter, which, besides one "intriguing spectrum probably not related to SETI", came up empty.[27]

leave

>WOW signal
it's better if you don't mention it at all
>WOW signal came from the same area
could you be more vague ?

>Only using our technology.
>Folks on Centauri Dreams came with several ideas of Dyson objects which would do this.

Hence "less likely" rather than "excluded from possibility."

I'm glad to see you /x/tards are cowarding out. You used to fill these threads with baseless machildren ayylmao arguments that made no sense. Now you're just posting some vague inconsistent citations and expect people to say it so you don't look like tinfoiler retards.

>Year of Our Lord 2016
>Believing in aliens

back to

leave the site

what made you think i 'believe' in aliens?
whatever

>Not realizing that Catholicism, Islam and Mormons all accept existence of alien life

Honestly, just click the link to go to our dedicated board for talking about aliens, spirits and any other unproven shit.

Here is the link :

>Honestly, just click the link to go to our dedicated board for talking about aliens, spirits and any other unproven shit.

>unproven shit
So does it also include exoplanets and particle research?
Life exists on Earth, are you claiming some kind of supernatural intervention was required for its existence?

btw, thanks for the video!

>strawman
Is this literally the extent of /x/tards argumentative skills ? I said evidence or GTFO

Thanks OP, forgot to tell you thank you for interesting lecture.

Even without you there will be enough people to call bullshit on retarded topics

leave the site

not evidence

>Is this literally the extent of /x/tards argumentative skills ? I said evidence or GTFO
What strawman?

Are you going to direct discussions about exoplanets around Proxima Centauri to /x/ as well because they are unproven?
Are you claiming life is limited to Earth despite being result of chemical natural processes?

Go to m8

he's referring to people who treat the notion of the existance of aliens as undeniable or already 99.9% proven

he just does this in an extremely retarded way

Show me the evidence of this "other life" you claim exists, then we have something solid and proven to have a discussion about rather than sperging about pure /x/-tier bullshit.

Until you do, remain in your cesspool

That's putting it mildly.

leave

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>Show me the evidence of this "other life" you claim exists
Lack of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Life is result of natural processes and rules of nature existing throughout the whole universe.
To claim life exists only on Earth is to attribute supernatural aspect to our existence.
If you argue that life is created by natural processes it is logical that it could have happened elsewhere.

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Holy shit both of you just shut the fuck up already. This thread is about observations of KIC 8462852, not "NO AYYLIUMS REEE" "IT CAN BE AYYLIUMS REEE."

>Lack of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Can be said about flying unicorns, ghosts, reptilians, etc...
>existing throughout the whole universe
Yet for the 50000th time, you fail to provide the evidence for it
>To claim life exists only on Earth is to attribute supernatural aspect to our existence.
The strawman is alive and well
>If you argue that life is created by natural processes it is logical that it could have happened elsewhere.
if X happened here, it must have happened there as well, is a logical fallacy at best.

just stop responding to him: he has nothing useful to say, and is here just to '' people

bro, what are you talking about, this thread is exactly about it

Why do these /x/tard invaders desperately looking for the affirmation of Veeky Forums on their chidlish ayylmao fantasies with zero evidence ?

Why can't these fucking imbeciles contain themselves in their cancerous board for fucking once ?

>Can be said about flying unicorns, ghosts, reptilians, etc...
Except unlike them, we know that life exist.

>Yet for the 50000th time, you fail to provide the evidence for it
You want me to prove that laws of physics and chemistry work across the whole universe? What makes you claim they don't?
>if X happened here, it must have happened there as well, is a logical fallacy at best.
Again what makes you claim that laws of nature are different in other parts of our universe?

oh look, he wants to add some fuel to the fire!

what a fucktard xD

Advice accepted.

Why are you so upset?

Just popping in to say you're way overdoing it

wtf man, dont fucking coach him on trolling!

WHO IS THAT?

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AYYY LMAO

>Also you don't even know where the occluding body is positioned yet alone how much light it absorbs.
But we do know how much light it absorbs...it's right there in OP's picture. Even if all that light is reflected rather than absorbed, there is still some kind of unnatural occluding body. Do we know of anything natural that could result in a highly reflective material forming around a star? How much reflective material would there need to be to cause this much occlusion? Honestly I'm starting to think this light must be reflected, otherwise we'd see some kind of re-emission from the body/bodies. These are the critical questions you should be asking, instead you're bitching about which board OP should be posting in. It's fucking Veeky Forums, it's all shit anyway. It's like a public restroom. Each stall is disgusting in it's own way, but just because the handicapped stall is less used you can't expect it to be clean. So get off your high horse.

Can someone who isn't an autistic shitposter explain to a simpleton what's going on? Why should we be paying attention to this?

Thanks.

>Can someone who isn't an autistic shitposter explain to a simpleton what's going on?
yes
>Why should we be paying attention to this?
something in space absorbs IR radiation (apparently).
that's an interesting phenomenon

go back to /x/

Again, nice strawman. Maybe you can fool your buddies over there

The star KIC 8462852 is seemingly unique in our view of the night sky. It has anomalous drops in brightness before returning to its original brightness, and the overall trend shows that the star is getting dimmer with time. It looks like something is orbiting the star and blocking the light, but the amount of area being blocked is huge - so huge, in fact, that the only single natural objects big enough to do it are stars. However, we already know that it's not a star, because the shape of the drop in light is not the same as a circle or sphere. In fact, the irregular dimming of the star is very difficult to explain except as a confluence of multiple arcs of material. So much material would leave a signature in the infrared spectrum in the form of black body radiation; anything that absorbs light will re-emit that light as it is able. However, we can't find any such light when we measure the star to a limit of about 68 Kelvin.

There are basically two natural possibilities left: that the star has previously undiscovered stellar processes unlike anything we've seen before, or it's being blocked by something in Interstellar Space that falls between the Earth and this particular star alone.

usaka

I really appreciated this, user. Thanks for the good explanation.

The unnatural explanation is fuckin' space aliens, but nobody really wants to think about that until the others are disproved.

His explanation is shit, tell him to go back to /x/

No problem, user.

By definition, yes, any unnatural explanation requires alien intelligence.

>that image

Holy shit, go back to /x/

Look up 'the most mysterious star...' TED
talk

>ted talks
god fucking damn it, kys

I should have mentioned that massive companion objects, including planets, stars, and black holes, have been excluded within a distance of 20 Astronomical Units by radial velocity measurements.

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>or it's being blocked by something in Interstellar Space that falls between the Earth and this particular star alone.

This is kinda the important part, because it means we need to keep watching this thing and see if the dimming is transient. If it sticks around then we can figure out if it's actually orbiting. And additionally check out any other stars to see if the phenomena is replicated.

That part plays into the alien megastructure shit because it rules out any potential orbiting objects being "normal".

Honestly this is probably going to take a long time to figure out. Hell, it may take forever.

Retards think a rock in front of a star equals aliens

Not to feed the go-back-to-x-tard, but the main point here is that orbiting rocks have been ruled out.

I think he's talking about a free-floating object obscuring the star from Earth's perspective, not something in orbit.

Or, some of them actually followed the study and know that asteroids patterns were already ruled out

Because basically aliens are actually 200% confirmed no matter how many times people tell you this is /x/

This thread is dildos

Guys guys I got an idea.
Send two identical telescopes and put them very far apart in the solar system.
Use the two telescope to create stereo data on the star and possibly identify the shape of the light blockers.

>Use the two telescope to create stereo data on the star and possibly identify the shape of the light blockers.

You can derive the shape of the occluding bodies by the structure of the dimming event; a high parallax observer probably wouldn't help too much for this particular point. However, it would be fantastic for distance measurements with parallax and high resolution imaging through interferometry.