The weird frontier between post irony and new sincerity are these millennials the saviors of literature?

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calling people pretentious gives them some sort of a cache these two don't deserve

gotta make that drug money somehow

I personally enjoy their works

I don't let a lot of things bother me so its perfect for me

Holy fuck

Successful art elicits an emotional response :)))

I remember my first Mira Gonzalez hate thread.

Sweet, sweet youth.

da fuq this shit is good

Astrophysicist @JimmyFallon might have said

Be snappy with your chat and believe the luck you've found.

Stars communicate, connect with sound

tao has a unique aesthetic in his entire life to be fair

Nice try Tao. I agree with you tho

is that lady okay? she looks poorly :(

she's fine, just a larger dose of memeage than usual

The Tao that can be named is not the true Tao

Are you on the Love All ?

lord give me strength, is that a real person

I believe so, yeah.
Such a shame that millenials are not only getting fucked up in the ass by boomers but also a shitload of aspiring writers are being shot down by older and bitter people who dont want nobody to try because they failed in the past.

You could take it up a notch and come up with a theory that past generations makes it a pain in the ass for new writers to emerge because those careers wont fund their retirement fund or whatever. Because its not exactly productive being a writer nowadays.

not only is it real, but i paid for it, preordered it, read it, and proudly display it on my bookshelf.

Totally really real

And strong too

Quite the Lady

Who's actually a Queen

So fluid she's never boxxy'd about

The same will happen again. Only this time instead of Boomers against Gen Y millenials, it's Gen X against Gen Z.

Literature will continue to get worse and worse, people have no influences anymore like dickens or keats or cervantes.

How can a society weaned on harry potter and steven king accomplish anything of literature repute. There's a reason why tao lins and mirana gonzales exist now, although they are still quite the minority as far as published ones go.

At first I thought I was just being a paranoid little twat.

But the deeper I get in the industry more and more I realize how much the game is rigged.
I'm not saying that millenials dont come up with crap, they do, most of them.

No wonder why millenials cant think out of the box nowadays, cant even grasp at the concept of what it is a society without capitalism. They're shaped to not think about this. Its deep coded in their brain.

do you think they feel good or bad when they see that they are memes?

>think out of the box

Don't be boxxy'd around

What about those that began as memes ?

A mememorphic egg spiraled with threads of Love ?

Do you know the Nu School ?

"People" like Tao and Mira are symptoms of just how rigged the game is. Those same gatekeepers who actively prevent real literature from being published because they're convinced no one wants it will bend over backwards to give opportunities to used-up-by-30 drug-addled trendwhores like those two who perpetuate their preconceived notions of what "this" generation and its art are all about.

Somehow it seems like this proves that, big picture, being a pothead is worse for writing than being an alcoholic.

Tweet related: twitter.com/tao_lin/status/746052759833681920

I agree with his tweet.

vintage is publishing his next 2 books. nigga made it. I wonder if it will be good.

Alcoholism or borderline-alcoholic boozing are time-tested writing aids. Pot-smoking only works if you're already a genius like Pynchon.

Biosphere Extensions: Solar System Resources for the Earth

Like were made of starlight?

>After being hospitalized three times (between June 1976 and February or March 1977), [Raymond] Carver began his "second life" and stopped drinking on June 2, 1977, with the help of Alcoholics Anonymous. Carver—who continued to smoke marijuana and experimented with cocaine at the behest of Jay McInerney during a 1980 visit to New York City—believed he would have died of alcoholism at the age of 40 had he not overcome his drinking.

If everything else he's ever written is anything to go on, then the answer is no. Bloom should've saved that "can't write, can't think, no discernable talent" meme comment for Tao Lin because he actually deserves it.

I had never heard of her until now. Just spent about 20 minutes reading a couple of her articles and scrolling through her Twitter feed. Absolutely horrid. I genuinely loathe this woman. The white male bashing, the sluttery, the flagrant drug use, the shameless attention seeking. She's fucking awful.

Women like this are the reason that more men should seriously consider celibacy. Read her work and you'll see that it all revolves around dating and sex; these are the only realms in which women have any power. If you stop caring about these two things they will have zero relevance to or influence over your life.

Losing battle, 197 men practicing Celibacy will not make a difference due to a billion sexually active males. Women would not have any power of you personally, but they would still retain their own power & influence

This would've been true maybe 30-50 years ago, but for better or worse there are plenty of women in positions of authority now because of the way society has been re-oriented. I don't mean those basic bitches who go prancing around everywhere in torn up jeans or yoga pants. Serious, professional women. If anything, women are more suited to today's hyperconsumerist late-capitalist society because the idea of it makes more sense to them on an intuitive level.

youtu.be/DU8dPPy0_bM

...Fluid intelligence...

...Tacit knowledge...

...Reflexive Spirituality...

Glad to know I'm not the only one. Really. Sometimes I wake up at 3 am and sit besides my windows and ponder if I'm crazy or not, for thinking that maybe, just maybe, those who pulls the strings are the ones preventing this current generation from thinking too much. Keeping the millenials away from things like writing because they might change the scenario in ways that bankrupts them. Slowly killing their artistic vein.

Every time it's either too vague, or it doesn't fit their categories and therefore into the trash it must go.

Thats why I believe that no matter what, aspiring writers should turn to self publishing before giving away the rights for some big publisher house.

The thing is, if you self-publish and don't do well commercially, it pretty much kills your chances of getting traditionally published. No one takes the idea of self-published books seriously enough for them to be viable as literature.

Look at that one guy who posts his shit here. Roberto something or other. He wrote one actual book then just started cranking out these retarded 8-10 page things after it was basically ignored. That's what self-publishing looks like these days.

I see your point. Yeah, self publishing scene is rather weird now, but it is also rather young. What was the internet before web 2.0? A mess.

But I believe that it is the future, you know? This generation hope in terms of literature. A away to trick the gatekeepers.

It should be taken seriously, tho. Especially now, that it is easy. With the right strategy, you can end up hitting gold.

It is possible to make a living writing despite what people say, there are tools, and money shouldn't be the main reason someone writes but I don't judge people from wishing to make a living out of it, everybody gotta eat. Shouldn't we all do what we love?

Self publishing allows that. If you're not lifting off then there must be something wrong with your writing. It gives you an honest feedback from your readers without some white collar poiting fingers at you and telling what you should do and raping your manuscript until you have another mediocre fantasy romance. Because if you don't do well commercially with a publisher, you're done too, but it >might< not be your fault at all.

>What was the internet before web 2.0? A mess.
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That's assuming you even get read though. Pretty much all self-published things that do well are YA or genre fiction.

Get off Veeky Forums, Tao. And please, for the love of god, stop making threads about what a genius you are. The amount of posts on this board lately just agreeing that Tao is a genius and an important voice instead of a semi-retarded drug addled failed vice columnist brings me to the idea that you're samefagging all over the place. I hope your landlord finally googles you and sees the truth about you raping children and kicks you out onto the street like the pseudo-intellectual bum you are.

Tao Lin is a garbage writer.
I'm be savior of literature desu.

Going celibate mostly benefits you on a personal level. It's tremendously freeing and it's only once you stop caring about chasing pussy that you realise how much of your energy you were putting in it even if you weren't fully aware of it.

Not trying to make a difference in the bigger picture and removing yourself from politics and such is also very liberating.

Pic related was really on to something.

To be honest, senpai, Cioran would have used Twitter, too, if he'd had the chance.

>ynw follow cioran and nietzsche on twitter

You must have low testosterone if going celibate doesn't make you want to whack off all the time to the point of distraction.

i tweet like this. i must be up next in the literary hot buzz

I didn't stop masturbating, I just stopped chasing women (and watching porn). I just do it to drain the pipes now, just like one pisses or shits and then get back to other things.

Works fine desu.

I don't know about tao lin, but mira's poetry is fucking godawful. It's literally shit like "omg i sad", and her articles are just shit like "omg i did weed so quirky". no fucking way she's a savior of literature.

sounds like most female authors

What did she mean by this?

she fuccs nu-males only

wow, poignant. scholars will study this for centuries.

It's a slight towards Sam Hyde. He choked her out and made her cum all over his cock but obviously wants him to come back for round 2

what the fuck is this pseud bullshit.

where's their porn video?

>DAE hate twitter

I want everyone involved in the contemporary literature scene to breathe sarin and die

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Veeky Forums is garbage.

Grass is green

>What was the internet before web 2.0? A mess.
a mess with higher SNR

"If someone reads my Twitter feed and doesn’t immediately think I’m a massive shit head, then I probably want to be friends with that person. If someone reads my Twitter feed and does think that I’m a massive shit head, then I probably want to have sex with that person." - actual Mira González quote.

Post those nudes, friend.

The greatest art is when you walk up to someone in a cafe, just enjoying their coffee, pull off your pants and piss them in the face. It elicits the most delicious of emotions, you can really savour them as you blast their stupid faces with piss.

I'd legitimately prefer to be pissed in the face rather than reading Lin and Gonzalez.

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i like lin. people think he's just a quirky cunt but i think his stuff is worthwhile. he gets shat on for writing about the internet, loneliness, and autistic stuff generally. people dont like it because they see themselves in it, but it's not like he's some tumblr spergerino his stuff actually has some depth. it may not be nobel price material but if you read it with an open mind you might end up liking it for it's novelty in how it deals with these topics

gonzales, i just dont know. i'm not feeling it. lin was prolly just exited about doing stuff with a semi-hot beaner chick and he mightve thought shoehorning writing from a non lit medium into a lit format would be cool.

HEY I WAS THE FIRST ONE WHO LINKED THIS VIDEO ON Veeky Forums PLEASE GIVE ME A (you)

some of those were actually pretty funny.

What is this

>if you read it with an open mind

Your brain will fall out.

Your homework for today is to meditate on the meaning of the words "sufficient" and "necessary".

No one shits on him for what he writes about. We shit on him for how he writes about it. Which is to say inadequately.

>mmoserverstatus.com/pokemon_go
i have a different opinion on this

>having shit taste

tao tao needed to appease to the tumblr crowd after the rape thing so he collabs with tumblr: the person

i want to

>all those fucking pill bottles on proud display
disgusting

more hot pics of mira gonzalo pls

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oh god I didn't know I needed this

is that tao's doge?

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Me on the right

Dig

Who is the pig-looking girl?

Have you ever rode a tricycle?

Once, with my friend Tim (28).