He went to college to study "biochemistry"

>he went to college to study "biochemistry"
>he went to college to learn """""science""""""

Biochem has effectively become the new psychology degree.
It's the "default" degree that millennials take when they fall for the "everyone needs to go to college" meme and they enter college not knowing what they want.
These are people who think they'll fit in because they've spent their whole lives on this earth and think it'll be easy.

They've never bothered to learn chemistry or biology concepts in their spare time and just expect college to teach them everything because they really have no passion for chemistry.
They don't even do their assignments outside of school and certainly never open lab notebook outside of class.
Ask any one of them if they've ever conducted an experiment in their spare time for fun and they'll look at you like you're crazy.

And what do they get?
Biochem programs are almost unequivocally shitand only people who spend their spare time self-learning the stuff their classes leave out have any chance of making it in a science world.
In an ideal world, you could self-teach most, if not all of a biochem curriculum yourself, but you still need that slip of paper that says you went to college, so that's not realistic.
Most biochem graduates cannot experiment worth a damn, and can't implement any ideas or a concept that wasn't explicitly taught to them.

Don't fucking bother with biochem. Major in something you couldn't realistically learn on your own and teach yourself chemistry on the side.

the image is hilarious, don't care about your rant

It's copypasta from /g/ i made

literally applies to any degree. people are retards

Fuck you. I'm doing biochem because I want to go to medschool. I don't care about "experimenting".

>Major in something you couldn't realistically learn on your own and teach yourself chemistry on the side

>implying you can learn any chemistry without access to a wet lab
>implying that any biochem experiment worth a damn can be done without dropping thousands on reagents and equipment

The code below, is that what the user put in his final, or was he unable to do it at all?

95-100% of 1st and 2nd year biochem majors want to go to med school and:

+ 5% make it, 90% of biochem classes at 90% of universities are premed oriented and thus shit
"I want to be like a doctor, bro"

"bro doctors make so much money dude, bro"

"bro why do research when i can help people bro?"

"dude i just gotta get my grades up a bit bro i dont need to volunteer"

>tfw want to do MD/PhD

Then do it
Don't let fucking Veeky Forums dictate your life

no im just saying
canada's kinda nice because there's a handful of med schools that only look at best 2 or 3 years

>tfw Chemical Engineering Master Race
>Never took a bio related class in uni
>Getting paid pharma bucks to do drug design and synthesize exotic peptides

Med school in the most insulated and protected trade school on the planet.

>getting paid pharma bucks to do pipe design and synthesize exotic pipes

ftfy

>tfw making a pipe shaped peptide

You can never escape the pipes.

It's not that hard to get into the states

Where is your humility then?

Can I get into the space industry with a biochem degree? Should I take a minor in physics or something to increase my chances of getting into NASA or SpaceX?

I am a lowly college freshman, pls no bully

im canadian

What's the career prospects of a biochem and how much money could one excpect?

I don't know what I want to study and like OP's rant I've been considering biochem.

Can someone exaplain what is wrong with the code in the OP?

I don't know much about about java. Can someone tell me if there is a direct (!) way to swap primitive datatypes anyway, or do have to you wrapper classes, arrays, or some kind of stuff always?

He should have done it this way:

private static void swap(ArrayList a, int i, int j) {
int temp = a.get(i);
a.set(i, a.get(j));
a.set(j, temp);
}

What is better about the set function?
Is it just convention?

>implying you can learn any chemistry without access to a wet lab
>implying that any biochem experiment worth a damn can be done without dropping thousands on reagents and equipment

I wonder how many people are math or CS majors because of this.
In my college interview, I said I was interested in optics, and the interviewer asked me if I had done anything with optics. I said no, because it is not like I could buy the equipment and do neat experiments.
To learn any physical science as a hobby you need to spend a considerable amount of money on a lab, but to do math or comp sci you just need a computer and books.

A pipe is the most beautiful thing in existence. It is simultaneously masculine and feminine, it is a phallic object and also a hole. it inputs and outputs, a very static object which controls a very dynamic processes. It truly is the alpha and the omega.

>coding in java

GET THE FUCK OUT

>kek
so true

Is this the new meme or are you just an asshurt bio major that is looked down upon by the chem department?

Biochem is literally the same thing as a chem major, just a couple more bio classes and minus the second semester Pchem course. Some of the time they just keep the pchem in there

Keep bitchin about your poor choices though. Chem has gone to hell in general but it's slightly improving. Biochem probably has greater potential in the next decade as we move towards personalized medicine and protein synthesis. Another user said he was going to med school with Biochem? Good for you. I have many friends from undergrad who finished their degree and got into med school no problem. One of them Northwestern.

Source: Biochem undergrad who went on to a PhD in chem no questions asked. It's the same fucking major.

I took PChem optionally, hence the minor in Physics too.

Could you answer this for me?

You already know the answer.

Aye, protein synthesis in extremophiles. Thanks lad. Just wanted a few opinions.

kek. reminds when i watched a girls do porn episode (yes, i'll admit it), and the girl honestly said she studies biology and wants to be a doctor. it was so god damn hilarious that i lost my boner

Should I do Molecular Biology instead

Presuming a biochem curriculum is the same everywhere is incorrect. Different universities have different degrees. In some unis, biochem is very close to chemistry, while in others, it's much closer to biology (molecular). You can (usually) distinguish which is which by checking whether the biochem department is in the chem department or the bio department (physical science or life science department in certain cases).

I guess OP is from the states though where many degrees have lost their educative value (chem, biochem, bio) due to people using them to get to med school, which is a beyond retarded system imo. Very good way of memeing people on Veeky Forums though.

biochem at my school is under the same faculty as medicine and nursing lol

and you wanna go to medschool to....get a job!!
This is the sad truth. 99% of college students just go there to get a job with no passion whatsoever. Poor world.

Second this. Did biochem in undergrad, now in biophysics PhD program. Majority of "pre-meds" didn't make it, plus were delusional enough to not do anything that would strengthen their CVs (e.g. independent research experience) in the likely event that they would not get in to med school.

IMO, neither post is incorrect. The core of the degrees in chem and biochem is highly similar. That said, there are slight differences: bioinorganic v. inorganic; biochem and/or pchem sequences. As was mentioned, the differences will be determined by who is running the undergraduate biochemistry program.

tell us more

>literally applies to any degree

No, everyone knows biochem is just watered down chemistry for girls. Just like CS is watered down CpE for manchildren.

>Just like CS is watered down CpE for manchildren.

Why must you hurt me so :'(

>they know a certain programming language i don't like personally, so they must be stupid

Explain that way of thinking.

I want to know what caused you to be so butthurt

here if you want to do biochemistry you must first get a bsc in chemistry, this applies to all sub fields of chemistry, then you choose your particular field for your masters

yes, it sucks that in amerilardia the system sucks, but blame yourself and your govt, not the field itself

im doing a molecular biology bsc and thinking of switching to a chemistry bsc to pursue biochemistry as a msc. it all depends on what you wanna do in the future, microbiology? molbio, big pharma? biochem, etc

> CpE
good luck with getting laid off from intel and then rehired at a lower salary in a never-ending cycle. the rest of us will be enjoying our sweet SDE jobs at competitive pay rates.

It's probably just that Java is the layman's language.
It's the language business applications are hacked together in and it's the language they teach at less than reputschools because languages like C++ or scheme are considering "too difficult for most people."
When something is shoddily hacked together, most often you'll find it's written in one of these "easy to start" languages like Java, PHP, or JavaScript. After a while you start to expect very little from the people who use these languages and do your best to dissociate from them.