/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

Every time I see a Bakker quote I laugh.
He's unintentional comedy.

Yeah, he's just a Rothfuss/Abercrombie tier edgemaster but with philosophical mumbo jumbo thrown in which of course fools Veeky Forums into thinking it's some SFF achievement.

That's all there, but the funniest thing are those names. They are about as linguistically sound as my farts, but 1/4 of every sentence is that nonsense.

That's because he's washed out of school and failed his PhD dissertation.

I didn't know it was possible in philosophy.
Here any nonsense can pass because it's not really an "objective" field.

>finally grasp the absolute
>still no gf

hooray i guess

Platonism is in no way related to having a gf.
But if you are a hegelian, you fucked up, hegelians always get pussy.

What other fantasy novel has elves like Discworld elves?

I'm tired of wise sages living in hidden villages. I want psychopaths fucking up with humans.

No Great Ordeal spoilers pls bros. (Or spoiler tag them if you must)

Thanks

aurang is one cheeky fukkin cunt swear to mog m8

The shittiest cover art.

The shittiest novel

is that Manu Bennett

>The man in the dinner plate silently roared as a servant placed a leg of roast turkey over his eyes.

What's the LotR of sci-fi then?

Dune.

Dune is Fantasy.

Science fiction and fantasy are more or less the same thing with a different excuse on why x is so.

As are all books, if you stretch the definition. Stretching the definition is the only way to encompass Dune in that genre as well.

Friendly reminder that Tuon is oriental looking.

Their are no black people in WOT.

Can someone spoil The Great Ordeal for me?
I've basically forgotten all the characters introduced in the second trilogy and I don't think I'll get back into it.

Also I think I worked out how it will all end/what the inchoroi's problem was

The Saldeans are Oriental I think. Seanchan should look Caucasian.

Also Taraboners, Tairens and Domani while not exactly black are at least brown.

>Domani while not exactly black are at least brown.

Domani are spanish looking.

Things become even WORSE

>Their are no black people in WOT.
Sure there is: the main villain of the series is the Dark One.

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Is the No-God Nau-Cayuti?

What are some fantasy novels on par with Malazan in terms of scope, world-building and complexity, but don't end up meandering into oblivion with philosophical ramblings and preaching?

this

www23.zippyshare.com/v/z1Ft2TwV/file.html

>No God
>Zero God

ruh roh

Owari no Chronicle & Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon

>Bakker could only get an Ian C Esselmont quote on the cover

fucking really?

The best cover art

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Nice thumbnail. Why does the inside of his cloak look like something from my grandma?

With all the rape in the series, no normalfag author wants to put their stamp on it.

>not the nip covers

>amano edition

>tfw meme wolfe is more popular in japan than meriga

Why don't you ordeal fags make a thread and shitpost your theories?
You are making the sffg thread go sonic fast I spent 2+ hours reading through 150+ longcat is long posts that were 90% bakker

>Making a SFF thread outside of the general

The contrarian edgelords would shitpost it up

Discussion of autist edgelord fantasy theories is already shitposting.

>Anime shit even worth mentioning compared to malazan

??? my edition has a erikson quote

Can't answer without spoiling the entire series

Yeah I don't see an issue with making a single thread for a new book

So when is The Unholy Consult coming out?

The elves in my novel are cyberpunk japanese fucktards who do drugs and mind altering substances erryday to the point where there's basically no "normal" elf left.

Is Richard Morgan's scifi, specifically Altered Carbon, as grimdark and edgy as his fantasy?

i'm starting garden of the moon. What am I in for?

Who knows. Don't forget The Great Ordeal was finished in 2013. Orbit+Overlook are such a pain with Bakker.

No don't.

Or if you do please use spoiler tags.

>What are some fantasy novels on par with Malazan in terms of scope, world-building and complexity

Harry Potter
Eragon
Twilight

Yes but has less gay.

>Yes but has less gay.
Then what's the point

Cover art looks suspiciously like based Obata's illustrations

a confusing first book of a great series.

Really bad writing

He gets better but holy shit that book is badly written

Don't do it. I'm on the tenth book and it is trash. The series has some great stuff (books 2-6) but overall it isn't worth it.

>thread quickly deranges into "is Tuon white?" /pol/ shit

Jesus christ and I thought this place was bad.

/tv/'s amazing

It's the only board that's totally incapable of ever having an ontopic discussion

but Tuon is eurasian

Normies cant grasp the absolute. Truth is,bakker is one of the smartest guys in sff. His world building is sublime and incredibly ambitious. You need to be smart and have a flexible mind to appreciate it.

Why bro ? What it do ?

is this any good? what sort of story is it? the cover art is truly terrible though...

It's a story about a monk who becomes the King of the whole World via philosophy. Also it has orcs that stab holes in people and then fuck the holes.

Special snowflake takes over the world
But with added misery and cod philosophy

It's okay but nothing special

god dammit i just want something good to read

It is good, not sure what about my post made you think it isn't.

Also there are pigeons with human heads that can make people orgasm just by touching them.

>Also there are pigeons with human heads that can make people orgasm just by touching them.

yeah that sounds real good...

Anyone got any reccomendations for Fantasy that isn't about bloody war and battles?

Your post didn't sound too enthusiastic

>letting shitty glib descriptions turn your off good work

So glad I read Bakker before he became a memes here. Also you people need to he more active in your reading, stop looking for people to tell you what to do

Yeah because everyone has the hours in their life to waste on reading shit like Bakker just to find out it's shit

Peter S Beagle

You can easily just read the first chapters to see if its for you or not.

Sorry, they are great books though. They have some fucked up shit in there and it's awesome.

Earthsea, also Swanwick's ouvre.

I recommend shit like that all the time but nobody ever reads it so fuck off.

Take a look at the other cover art,its much better.
if bakker is nothing special,what is ?

George RR Martin

Bakker is an absolutely normie author. We have a "normalfag publishing house" which outside of Tolkien, has never published anything decent.
Surprise surprise, Bakker is one of the most popular. Top 3 now are Rothfuss, Bakker and Martin.

>sranc - orcs
>ursranc - uruk-hai
>nonmen - elves/dwarves
>emwamma - hobbits
>qirri - lembas
>sil - morgoth
>aurax/aurang - sauron
>rape - singing

any other parallels?

why malazan > everything?

None of those are valid

Did you see his blog ? Did you read his books ? That feg aint a normie

Being edgy is normie

Whats a none normalfag fantasy book?

I've tried reading black company but I find the writing style annoying

>inb4 you can't handle muh challenging writing style

Zelazny? Lankhmar? Gene Wolfe in general? Worm Oruboros? Plenty of literary fantasy that normies sadly won't touch.

I thought Black Company's style was pretty basic desu

But Black Company has incredibly simple prose

Non-mainstream fantasy would be stuff like Wolfe, Peake, Vance, Bujold, Stross, Jemisin, Saladin Ahmed

Not all of it's necessarily separate from your usual swords n magic fantasy but it doesn't appeal to the audience of that fantasy

Grimdark stuff appeals to the exact same crowd as normal fantasy, just to a slightly lesser extent if the author is using rape loads as that obviously puts off some readers

>sadly

Look what happened to GRRM after normies went crazy over his work.