Will we ever be able to build a space elevator?

not in the near future. most likely never

>space elevator

Not on Earth.

If you get rid of Phobos, you could probably make on on Mars. then again, maybe you could get Phobos in to geosynchronous orbit and use it as the counterweight.

>things that will never happen in the time span humanity has

Post Scarcity is about all you can hope for from space.

>things that will never happen in the time span humanity has

Where were you when they built that ladder to heaven?

>Kek, nice one.

OP the problem isn't funding, it's basic science. No known material has the strength for the job, and is lightweight enough to be hoisted up on balloons (or otherwise). Several studies have been done for high-altitude elevators, but these aren't really space elevators in the truest sense.

It's a materials problem, and until that problem is solved there isn't going to be a true space elevator.

Tethers in space are not impossible, because you can put maneuver nodes (ie, thrusters) wherever you need them and centrifugal force will keep the whole thing up. The problem is at the top of the atmosphere, where balloons don't work effectively but there's still air resistance keeping rockets from working effectively.

if we can get nanotube filament production scaled up enough we'd have a material strong enough to do the job, and no one seriously proposing space elevators thinks we should try hoisting them on fucking balloons

why mars?

It would Short out the ionosphere. Burn up like a giant wire. Not possible.

id rather we just moved a metal rich asteroid to GEO and had post-scarcity m8's. it'll be much easier and probably cheaper than a space elevator and doesnt require magic materials yet to exist.

>and no one seriously proposing space elevators thinks we should try hoisting them on fucking balloons

the only "serious" space elevator studies out there all use balloons as stabilizers inside the atmosphere

Stabilizers, sure. But not as initial launch devices.

how else are you going to get heavy cabling up to the edge of space

why not both? A space elevator, in theory, can work without any fuel and only electric power.

>concrete space stairway
Well, I need Led Zeppelin to make this song now.

>it should be a massive, concrete space stairway.
>a 10.000 km high compression structure

you havent never even been near a structural calculation book

Imagine it... some people would dedicate their entire lives to climbing the stairway. You'd pass different people on your ascent, at different stages of their journey. You'd pass 20,000km and find some old men who have retired and won't take another step, but are happy to empart their knowledge of the great climb to you. You spend a few days with him, looking out over Earth. Then you take the next step, and continue.

THEN YOU ALL DIE AND COLLAPSE BECAUSE ITS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE

SCIENCE >>>>>>>>>>>> STUPID POETRY PHILOSOPHY FOR SMELLY HIPPIES

WHATS THE PROBLEM POETRY MAN

YOU SURE LIKE YOUR IPOD SO DONT YOU BITCH TO SCIENCEA CUASE ITS OBJECTIVELY SUPERIRO

MAN CAN LIVE WITHOTU STUPID SILLY EMO AGNSTY TEENS POETRY STUPIDS

BUT MAN CANT LIVE WITHOUT SUPERIO INTELLECTUAL DOCTOR MEDICS SCIENCE AND MANUFACTURERS OF FUN RPODUCTS

Hey man, thats just like your opinion...

Dreams are free

>if we had wizards who could make space mountains we could drive our cars to space!

That is literally what you just said, since there's literally no possible way what you said will come true.

Im probably over simplifying it way too much, but wouldn't a space anchor held in mid air and not touching the ground solve most of the problems a space elevator would have?

Something tells me you are the smelly hippy trying to vilify science by acting stupid.

something tells me you dont know how to accept objective undeniable literatliely literal knowlodge

THERE IS NO GOOD OR BAD ONLY RIGHT OR WRONG

WHAt
what little momma baby boy you think you can be good?

then you dont know science

IN SCIECNE THERES RIGHT

SCIENCE IS RIGHT
POETRY IS RONG

EITHER THE ROSES ARE VIOLET OR THEY ARE BLUE

THERE IS NO FUN IN SAYING FALSE THINGS

YOU DONT WANT YOUR DOCTOR SAYING POETRY RIGHT????

LITTLE BUTTHURTY if you wanna be a scienceist you have way ageeeeeeeeees to gooooo little billy boy kiddy little boy

You mean a stepping stone? Basically a very low orbit place ships can dock with then elevator/rail line up from there.

It is something to consider and math out to see where that point is above the Earth where materials tech and worth while lifting of cargo would work. You may find that to do it, you need to be so far away from earth that ships can just keep going without it and without much extra fuel at all. Which defeats the purpose of course.

So is correct. Good to know.

>Will we ever be able to build a space elevator?
Never because the materials needed to build one can not be produced in great enough quantities at low enough cost

>When will our governments finally get their act together and strive towards space exploration?
Again never, most governments are opposed to space exploration because it undermines the cultural idea that Earth is the most important place, each nation in particular.

Also a space elevator would never be built because if it collapses the damage would be under multiple jurisdictions, if one country tried to build a space elevator other countries would have to destroy the construction site with military force because of the global risk a completed elevator would pose to multiple nations. NIP THAT TRASH IN THE BUD!

>why mars?
Less G.

So the ladder wouldn't need to be so high, or the other mass so huge.

If you need more, sorry, I',m drunk enough to not feel my fingers as I type.

That asshole.

It IS important.

>dem lemon squares

NOICE

Yeah. Those look nice.

It really isn't. Humans need to stop wasting time, money, and energy on space. There's nothing we can do out there in the time frame we have left.

>time frame we have left

What the hell does that mean? If you're speaking of the end of the world, we have millions of years. Going into space is the inevitability of all advanced species. It doesn't require a doctorate in Astronomy to know that.

You sound incredibly negative.

Astronomy is a waste of time too. We live here, not on a fucking star.

The only science that really matters is marriage, these basement dwellers should try to do something useful like cure cancer or give poor people better nutritihon.

You baiting me. I see. You're good.

Yeah, if only we had the lemon square, then perhaps....

if only.

Even the capticha squared from my flicking with the lamon.

But not now, click. Click. CLICK.

>helping humanity is bait
>wasting your intellect is the right thing to do

This is Bizzaro world now?

I can buy most treats but I know of no place that sells squares of limon.

>we have millions of years

Humans don't. The world has billions of years left. Life on Earth has probably millions to billions of years left. Humans as a species will be lucky to stretch it out to a few thousand more years.

>You sound incredibly negative.

Knowing where you are and knowing the facts isn't negative. Living in a fantasy land wasting resources is negative. Focus should be on things that can actually help humanity. That is positive.

>probably millions to billions
wow better be careful with these predictions, don't want to be so specific

>When will our governments finally get their act together and strive towards space exploration?

They have. Only thing is space exploration is a lie and it's just a money making scheme from the government. Wake the fuck up.

You launch a super thin ribbon on a satellite, drop it down to the ground. Gradually, once you have the initial guide in place, you slowly raise new segments from the ground along the first drop. Eventually you have an elevator capable of lifting non-trivial masses.

This would be considered an aggressive move, if not an all out attack.

>wasting resources
what resources are finite on a human scale?

Leme set you up, NP; 5 free dum dollar because gum mint ship inn. and I'll whip you up a batch.

It will be one small step toward reaching the stars, one lemon square at a time.

Human resources. That's people with brains doing important work instead of grant chasing, space memeing, and building a better bomb.

Baring a comet slamming into Earth, billions. If comet then millions, or tomorrow I suppose.

You be careful, kid.

>This post
>Posting that chart.
user you need to fuck off or kill yourself.

Or some not religious person. Plenty of wackos are not motivated by mental illness, not faith.

>angry eurotard: example post

yeah because the inmense amount of brainpower and money we allocate on shitty entertainment and killing each other is much more important

Does anyone know of a theoretical limit to any possible material's tensile strength? Are there any, from first principles? There's gotta be.