Is there any worthwhile poetry that has been written after Auschwitz? Gibe proofs. (no trol)

>Namedropping ain't no proof for worthwhile poetry

It's about as much proof as the above quoted is is a refutation.

>pause an hour
Fuck you.

>rap music

Well that was easy

> user who doesn't understand Adorno's critique of enlightenment 'mythos'

Why would fucking Auschwitz and fucking poetry around the world have any fucking connection? Fuck off. I'm not fucking giving you fucking "proofs" that there's been good fucking poetry written in the past 71 fucking years, you fucking idiot.

>being this much of a retard

The majority in this thread has no idea what Adorno actually meant by that statement

Oh, for God's sake. You really want me to take Adorno seriously? Fine.
So he was claiming, way back in 1949, that to persist, after Auschwitz, in the production of monuments of the very culture that produced Auschwitz is to participate by denial in the perpetuation of that barbaric culture and to participate in the process (reification) that renders fundamental criticism of that culture literally unthinkable. It makes sense in the context of all German art and history leads to Hitler, but it's not some universal truth.
He later backed off and said:
Perennial suffering has as much right to expression as a tortured man has to scream; hence it may have been wrong to say that after Auschwitz you could no longer write poems. But it is not wrong to raise the less cultural question whether after Auschwitz you can go on living--especially whether one who escaped by accident, one who by rights should have been killed, may go on living. His mere survival calls for the coldness, the basic principle of bourgeois subjectivity, without which there could have been no Auschwitz; this is the drastic guilt of him who was spared. By way of atonement he will be plagued by dreams such as that he is no longer living at all, that he was sent to the ovens in 1944 and his whole existence since has been imaginary, an emanation of the insane wish of a man killed twenty years earlier. (Negative Dialectics, 362-363).

So his perspective is that of a German who lived through WWII, and has little bearing on those whose lives have no immediate connection with that time and place. He was focused on German responsibility for the Holocaust as his entry point to critiquing social policy and the way we think of art, but it's still bullshit. If writing poetry after Auschwitz is barbaric, then it's also barbaric to write poetry after the Rwanda massacre, Vietnam, the Cultural Revolution, the Stalinist purges and famines, the slaughter of Native Americans, the Mongol invasion of Baghdad, the Crusades, the Roman conquests, you name it. I'm not buying that it's bourgeois objectification that made Auschwitz possible. What made it unique was the calculating, mechanistic, coldly efficient way it was carried out, but other than that, it's no different from any number of horrors that humans have been capable of, and have done, since the beginning of history. Given that, I think it can be argued that poetry, or any individual expression of joy and wonder, is precisely the response needed to horrors such as Auschwitz. It doesn't mean that we're blinding ourselves, or in denial — it means that in spite of all that, we can go on living, and even affirm the value of living, for the flashes of beauty which are our categorical rejection of "Auschwitz" and all that would reduce us to. If not for poetry and the like, humans should have probably ceded our right to exist millennia ago. Is that what Adorno wants? Fuck off. The Holocaust simply isn't that important.

>getting outraged over a retracted statement
Kys

He didn't fully retract it, by a long shot. If you actually read anything before responding to it, you'd know that. I'm done with the idiocy for now.

Todesfuge is GOAT

Neither did your dad, but he should have

Wasn't Adorno only referring to german poetry?

transtromer is GOAT

my diary desu

no fucking way I give a shit about people dying

Literally came here to say Celan.
I guess the word Auschwitz made me think of him.

No, even American be-bop Jazz was complicit.

>2016
>still believing in the Jewish holocaust meme

Adorno is an idiot.

Before that idea can even be entertained it must first actually be proven that jews were gassed and murdered at Auschwitz. All evidence so far suggest that's a monumental lie. The burden of proof is on those making the claim and they need to back up their outlandish conspiracy theory of "muh 6 million jew genocide by the evil Germans" with facts and evidence instead of making even questioning it illegal in some countries and disappearing into the shadows and pumping out endless propaganda to further the meme throughout the various media outlets they own and run.

Underrated

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Am I the only one who doesn't give a flying fuck about the Holocaust? Not even an antisemite, I just don't fucking care at all.

Adorno was a filthy inbred Marxist kike.

>>>>>>adorno
don't even have enough meme arrows to express how much of a meme he is

didn't happen m8, that's why you don't care

your subconscious always knows the truth

Poorfag

Lol the voices of the slave complicit in the death of the Jew. Truly the most narrassitic people.

The transatlantic slave trade was worse and more word changing. And more calculated.

Kek you're probably right

>Sexton

A lying bag of meat. Thank Christ Augustine didn't have a loose lipped shrink.