Will useful, walking robots ever be as commonplace as smartphones, or even motorcycles in our everyday life?
Something that can do multiple tasks without extensive pre-programming for each one. Not necessarily with AI, but at least smart enough to do some common helpful things.
Something well off people could save up to buy without having military or corporate big bucks?
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yeah, but its gonna be a bunch of little dumb robots and not some anthropomorphic robo-butler.
god yes i hope so
would love to see these goyim struggle because a robot is doing their job better and cheaper
I hope robots don't kill us or replace us.
>yeah, but its gonna be a bunch of little dumb robots and not some anthropomorphic robo-butler.
so no C3-PO then.
Think of every action the robots might be used for.
Now using your amazing brain power. Come up with a more efficient robot at doing that job.
... Bipedal isn't as useful as you might think user. No matter how much you like the human form
...
retarded circular logic
>No matter how much you like the human form
Marketing trumps just about everything else desu.
If two robots were for sale and the humanoid robot was decent , and the other robot was technically superior at its tasks most people would opt to buy the first assuming the cost is the same.
A possible exception to this might be in factories or behind the scenes work etc. Most people are narcissistic about our form, even if you like think yourself too practical to agree with them.
yep. think roomba and the robomower. automation is going to creep in slowly like that. if your lucky we might get a robo-butler in the form of advanced Siri like house manager app that runs all the other little robots.
sorry bro, no robo-waifu's this lifetime.
>sorry bro, no robo-waifu's this lifetime.
We already have those, they just can't walk.......so if your fantasy was for a paraplegic waifu you're all set!
>Bo robo-waifu's this lifetime.
user this implies that the human race doesn't find a way to ward off aging and other diseases for a very long time (For 1st world countries anyways).
Wouldn't also be easier to make a robo-waifu than an advance House Siri.
>Wouldn't also be easier to make a robo-waifu than an advance House Siri
we are so far from truly emulating the human form. crude golems is what we have for the foreseeable future.
>Wouldn't also be easier to make a robo-waifu than an advance House Siri.
Depends on how deep a relationship you want. So long as she can read my email and news stories I'm content with that conversation package. I just want a walking fuckbot bascially that I could trick people into thinking she's my wife so long as they don't try to have a chat.
They have robot upper bodies that look almost indistinguishable from the human form. Just slap that on top of an ASIMO with really baggy pants and it would work. She'll walk like an aspie but it will work.
>Depends on how deep a relationship you want. So long as she can read my email and news stories I'm content with that conversation package.
I'm pretty sure you could a bit further than that. I'm sure somebody can program her similar to be similar to a dating sim waifu.
Given time and with experts help those crude golems could become real anime girls.
>Just slap that on top of an ASIMO with really baggy pants and it would work. She'll walk like an aspie but it will work.
He does have a point, user.
>I'm pretty sure you could a bit further than that. I'm sure somebody can program her similar to be similar to a dating sim waifu.
Probably. But I just want a believable hottie I can walk down the street with hand-in-hand.
I don't want to make it too difficult and scare away the programmers, and engineers so I will only ask for the walking and lifelike look.
Obviously just the top HALF, but yeah.
>Given time and with experts help those crude golems could become real anime girls
there is really only one technological hurdle and thats creating a good synthetic analogue to human muscle tissue. our current linear actuators are shit tier.
power supply and software control can be done remotely through a tether. the robo-waifu would just be an avatar.
You don't even need to simulate human muscle, I mean you could but it will be pricey, I'm perfectly comfortable laying on top of machine architecture so long as it's covered in that soft silicone that goes over Real Dolls. So long as the robotic parts fit with in a shape and volume of a typical human (and I know they can) it's all good. I don't care if she's too weak to pick up steel girders or heavy boxes, at most I'd need her to lift a champagne glass and turn a doorknob to pass waifu test. It's like the Turing Test, but far more advanced of course.
most people are going to want something that ambulates like a real person. its kind of a requirement to get past the uncanny valley. servos and current actuators will never achieve believable human motion.
She'll move a bit weird and if you listen closely you'll hear whirling sounds etc., but it's still better than nothing.
>Stop staring at my GF, she's in physical therapy cuz of her service in Iraq!
I don't really care for robots, what I really want is an AI with human level intelligence
I really want a way to keep living forever, chill, and keep energy pumping into the universe so it goes on for infinity.
One step at a time user.
>HER/Cortana
>just an AI, can't even fuck it
kek So you're lonely, but not horny?
I guess I'm the only one that is bored with concept of AI but still loves cool robots that we could make today.
>fuck fuck fuck
God I am so annoyed by this being the focus when talking about personal robots. There are so many applications but all the horny neckbeards talk about are le sex robots xD
>One step at a time user.
someone actually gets it
If it inspires people to build them, and motivates others to buy, then why judge?
To be fair I started this thread thinking robo-butler, not fuckbot, but that's where the conversation went so I followed in that direction so long as we stayed on the topic of robots.
>then why judge?
Because it puts the focus on something different. It's shallow.
>shallow
Whatever. I'm betting porn played a larger role in the adoption of VHS than you'd like to admit.
If you don't tailor the tech to suit the wants of the masses it will never break hurdles necessary to become prevalent in other areas, not as fast at least.
If you can't accept that you won't see some developments beyond the ivory tower or a lone geek's lab anytime soon; so yes, "fuck fuck fuck"!
Well whatever. Just hurry up YOU FUCKS. All those degrees from fancy schools all those huge budgets and still we are lightyears away from robots that are not heavy, slow, clumsy and need to be connected to a power source.
>need to be connected to a power source
if only wireless power was possible ;_;
>all those huge budgets and still we are lightyears away
kek
>nobody wants to be the guy who applies for a fuckbot grant
I bet you they will enter the marketplace as a home health aide robot to help around the house for the elderly and disabled. Especially if they are reasonably cheap.
Home health is fucking expensive, and the price makes most families care for their ailing parents at home which is incredibly stressful
>medfag
I hope by the time I am old I will have a robot to wipe my butt.
I think there will be, in Japan at least.
Wiping your ass is hard work when you're 95.
Maybe you can have a toilet with a robot hand just for this purpose.
Original idea pls dont steal.
Believe it or not a fuckbot would transform the porn industry tremendously and make it more money.
>flush toilet
>hand emerges form behind you
>it extends a single finger
>O.O
creepy af
>and make it more money.
Maybe millions more desu.
A robot brothel easily get around prostitution laws.
A company that made big bucks here could branch off to research more G-rated robot development and be better funded while doing so.
Robots are more primitive than the media would have you believe.
How much of a difference can one person make? Would it be dumb to get into robotics just to help make this happen?
Additional info: I am a brainlet with bad discipline who hates math and physics.
>How much of a difference can one person make?
Wew lad. One person with time, energy, and hard work can make a huge fucking difference.
>Would it be dumb to get into robotics just to help make this happen?
Not really. If you like robotics you can jump in, not too mention there is high pay off if your work leads to something.
But isn't the field pretty oversaturated already? Am I really needed when there are tons of MIT graduates working on any problem you can think of?
>How much of a difference can one person make?
Ask Elon Musk. It's a big gamble, and you'll likely fail, but if you don't you win and win big.
Well I have assburgers so I doubt I can get his business and leadership sense.
kek
so does he
>handed over CEO to someone else, made himself CTO
>stutters during all interviews looks around awkwardly
Is there a tutorial somewhere on how to make a successful company?
Probably but I don't know where, isn't there a business board?
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Bipedal robots cant walk because they are heavy thats why they keep stumbling and falling over
What will some laws be concerning the use of Public Service Robots (Robots owned by the state and used by everyone) and Privately Owned Robots?
some guy on modified an industrial robot
and created an 6 axis sex robot
Given access to artificial muscle why would we not make robot butlers and prostitutes?
you're clearly lacking in amazing brainpower
Where is a good place to start learning about robotics? My HS is for athletic brainlets and Everytime a robotic program wants to join us, the school denies them. How can I learn about robotics on my own and get hands on experience? I have been watching MIT open course lectures and studying Adriano and raspberry pI already.
Potentially.
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In about a month or two Cassie will be operational.
>>Something well off people could save up to buy without having military or corporate big bucks?
hahahahahahhaha no
Cassie(pic related) will use less power than a similar sized quad copter for moving a package the last hundred feet or so from a delivery truck to one's doorstep.
this.
>>most people are going to want something that ambulates like a real person
do you have any facts to back that up?
>>its kind of a requirement to get past the uncanny valley.
then don't go past the valley. The less human like something is, the less creepy it will be when it fails.
No. The fact is human bipedal motion only works if you have extremely accurate, fast and precise motor skills. Computers don't have this.
Anyway, automated equipment will come in familiar forms. Think forklifts, front loaders, tractors, trucks, trains etc. Why? Because it's stable and requires minimal input from the processor.
Great talk.
>will use less power than a similar sized quad copter for moving a package the last hundred feet or so from a delivery truck to one's doorstep.
It seriously does not make economical sense to do that, though. A much more effective system would just be a crane (or a grabber like device) inside the truck which places the package at the front of the person's driveway. In this way everything is self-contained and no space has to be wasted on a separate vehicle. Also no danger of the "doorstep" vehicle hurting someone.
What's frustrating is that people who do robotics clearly are not from the industrial automation industry. They want to make robots, they don't want to make devices that actually solve the problem in the simplest way possible.
I think so, but that will be more about marketing and price.
The largest stumbling block isn't the technology but instead how humans treat the robots. Look at the backlash over testing the ones for Boston Dynamics. While those things need to be done in order to properly develop working robots, humans well, project and humanize the robots.
This physiological projection is the handicap of the entire genre of humanoid robots. Humans can't help but feel empathy even for something that isn't living. These the more a robot becomes an effigy the more profound this problem will be.
You know how sci-fi stories and movies portray humanoid robot abuse? Well, that really is the future of humanity's interaction with robots that look more and more human.
Thus, that is the only problem I foresee with getting humanoid robots into every day use. If society can come up with morals, ethics, social pressure, and perhaps even effigy laws we might be able to get around this problem. Why would this be needed? Take it like this, a human who abuses animals specifically for the sake of abusing them has something wrong with them mentally. This is shown to be true historically. The same thing will be true of people who abuse an effigy specially for the purpose of abuse. The closer the effigy is to being a real human being the more profound the mental problems the person has who actively abuses them for the sake of abuse.
Why is this a problem? Because, people who do these things lack proper empathy that the average mentally healthy person has. The more real an effigy is the more the habit of abusing them can bleed over into interactions with real people. Thankfully, effigies act as a moderate stopgap for finding out who has this problem so they can be helped. Then again how many people, who are actively abusing animals for the sake of abuse, actually get professional help?
Ugh, so many typing/grammar mistakes. Too much coffee!
>pic
I fucking love that.
You are also completely correct. 99% of the robots designed today aren't even remotely like humans in just about any respect. The only time they have human-like attributes is when those attributes are specifically needed. Like how a robotic arm "sorta" looks like a "arm" simply because that is the most efficient design for the task(s) it needs to perform.
A crane can't scale stairs or open doors though. Apartment blocks are a thing, user.
>Look at the backlash over testing the ones for Boston Dynamics.
No one seriously objected to kicking robots, just like no one seriously considered the Tai reset a murder. Even if they did, they didn't, there's no place for such retardedness in my worldview.
>> driveway
Not everyone has a driveway you know.
Those people clearly live in urban areas and can pick their things up from the post office. In this way, both the driver AND the delivery truck are eliminated. Less personnel, more efficiency. If people complain they can pay extra for the premium door direct service.
Alternatively, trucks can use a designated loading station attached to a mail booth. Imagine something about the size of a newspaper stand that the truck loads from the top. Alternatively it can be a chute connected to a mail room.
>Those people clearly live in urban areas and can pick their things up from the post office. In this way, both the driver AND the delivery truck are eliminated. Less personnel, more efficiency. If people complain they can pay extra for the premium door direct service.
Exactly this. People who want things shipped to their apartment for no added fee don't understand the realities of urban delivery. First there is moving the package from the distribution truck to the delivery truck, then a driver has to actually be paid to drive that truck right up to their building then into their apartment's mailbox to deliver it. This costs money and consumers are spoiled if they think they are entitled to it. Amazon Prime exists for a reason.
We live in a 21st century society, in a connected world that demands synergy across all different aspects of a company to ensure global competitiveness. I can pay my bills through this app using a bot. This is the disruptive sharing social economy, start sharing the line at your local Kinkos today.
>People who want things shipped to their apartment for no added fee don't understand the realities of urban delivery.
Tfw living in Poland where the state-operated post service is the cheapest option and always tries to deliver to door first (at some random time), and then leaves the package at the office (but you first have to wait to the evening, until the delivery truck completes the work for this day). Tbqh I find this extremely annoying and often prefer to pay more for a private company that delivers to its own automatic lockers.