If your only objective is losing weight you can actually eat shit food as long as it fits your macros.
You won't be healthy but you could still get a 6pack from eating at mcdonalds
I'm new to Veeky Forums but
Eli Baker
Camden Ramirez
>Veeky Forums
Pic is last NYC meet up.
You tell me
Austin Baker
>If your only objective is losing weight you can actually eat shit food as long as it fits your macros.
No. I've already explained why.
Jason Torres
>In America this is -the- version of CICO.
Okay, I've, on the other hand, seen people restricting themselves to "healthy" food, or going on weird diets (like keto, or low carb), without understanding what are they putting inside of them and why, and without making the commitment to control their portion sizes and cutting down on snacks. I think that having at least a basic understanding of what different foods contain (as some can be surprisingly caloric, like juices, milk, or thick condiments) is essential for that (starting with reading nutrition labels and familiarizing oneself with nutrition contents of vegetables, meats, and whatever comes without labels. also reading the ingredients lists and trying to choose food whose list is less complicated is often a good idea too), and after some point it's easier to write it down, rather than doing the calculations in head.
>A better heuristic is a distilled down low level mechanical approach with regard to the constituent parts of food.
Then I don't quite get how is that accomplished if you consider reading nutrition labels a waste of time. Or did you mean that counting calories alone is pointless?
>Also, I appreciate how reasonable this conversation has been.
Thank you too, it's nice to have a civil conversation here.
Zachary Brown
I know plenty of people who eat like shit and still have good bodies. I know it's not evidence but you're clearly overestimating how much fat you can get from simple carbs.
Levi Sullivan
>Can I get fit by carrying people's groceries and cardio
I can't tell if this is bait or not so ill give u a 4/10
Caleb Brooks
there's no need to be a powerlifter user to be marked.
Isaac Clark
Yes, I'm no fan of most of the diets people get fixated on either. At best they're ineffective and inefficient, at worst they're outright harmful. I think when you say "nutrition labels" you're actually talking about what I'd call an ingredient list.
>Or did you mean that counting calories alone is pointless?
Mainly, yes. The body's internal feedback loops and I/O is more complex than calories in, calories out. Predicting outcomes is better done mechanically, not with a naive mathematical model.
The body is a machine and must be viewed like one, down to the action of each and every dietary component, bodily state, and environmental influence. As well as their synergistic relationships when relevant. It sounds complex when described, but in practice most people have common or clustering aspects, and it's a very easy heuristic to use and stick to. This is how you create self maintaining core lifestyle changes.
Jason Thompson
en.wikipedia.org
Also look into the effect of high dietary intake of common goitrogens.
Asher Cruz
The dirty little secret that Veeky Forums and the bodybuilding industry don't want you to know is that musculature is all genetic and that a guy who takes the right amount of steroids and just stays at home eating cheeseburgers will always look way better than the guy who hauls ass in the gym constantly with no steroids.