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>Complaining about how people sort themselves by
Franzen writes by, for, and about white people. At least he's not Wallace, who used them as like plot devices.
He doesn't even do a good job of it though.
Do black people even want to be friends with whites for the most part?
No less than white people in my personal experience.
It's a tad ridiculous that this is somehow a problem now. So he's expected to go out of his way to forge artificial friendships just for the sake of diversity? It's the whole "WE NEED MORE WOMEN/MINORITY WRITERS" bit, just now extended to people's personal lives.
Hi /pol/
Here we go.
Hi tumblr
As a part of social justice, yes. Networking is important for work/professional life/upward mobility for marginalized people. Whites actively keeping to themselves and NOT getting within proximity of the marginalized continues to perpetuate white supremacy.
>Jonathan Franzen’s lack of black friends is unsettling but it’s hardly unusual in white America
Lindy West
>My hot tips for parents with a fat kid: feed them fun, kindness and dignity
Lindy West
>My thank-you letter to an abortion doctor
Lindy West
>The macabre truth of gun control in the US is that toddlers kill more people than terrorists do
Lindy West
>Break the period taboo: my name is Lindy West and I bleed
>From #BlackLivesMatter to internet trolls: the best and worst of my darkest year
Lindy West
>Lindy West is a Seattle-based writer, editor and performer whose work focuses on pop culture, social justice, humour and body image. She's currently a culture writer for GQ Magazine and GQ.com, as well as the founder and editor of I Believe You | It's Not Your Fault, an advice blog for teens.
whew lad
>lad
>mfw that's actually her
Not /pol/ at all. Jesus, can't I advocate for organic friendships and relationships?
Huh, you weren't kidding.
>Organic friendships and relationships
>On our Anarcho-Marxist board
To the gulag with you.
I like how you spin it to be "whites actively keeping to themselves." White people don't live their lives, associate with the people they do, create art, entertain themselves, etc. with the sole purpose of avoiding "marginalized" people. They do it because life is short and to do otherwise for the sake of others' "feelings" or ending the "supremacy" is silly.
Not to even mention that I really don't think "marginalized" groups are actively seeking out the friendships of suburban whites with in order to "actively" destroy "barriers" and end the "supremacy."
>creating a more equitable society is silly
lol'in at your life.
The point is that whites, in their position of privilege, must reach out to the marginalized. Not the other way around.
>Yuppies reaching out to the marginalized
I remember when Labour tried this back in the 2015 election, it backfired so hard they literally wrote a book about it.
Wew really what book
It hasn't been fully published yet because of how controversial it was for the labour party, but it pretty much expands on
If your really lazy you can get the gist from
I despise Franzen with every fiber of my being as much as the next guy but I simply gotta sage this thread.
Journalists are the one thing more worthy of our hatred than Jonathan Franzen.
There is nothing objectively despicable about franzen.
kys
Not an argument
Care to explain your reasoning instead of just leaving us to assume your point is truth a priori?
Through a reasoned critique of history, politics, economics and sociology it's entirely possible that someone may come to the conclusion that "a more equitable society", at least as the modern left conceives it, is not at all desirable.
Not a suicide.
>The point is that whites, in their position of privilege, must reach out to the marginalized. Not the other way around.
Lmao. Everybody take a look at this faggot.
Literally not an argument
Not a rebuttal
Literally not a suicide.
Not an argument.
>rebutting a non argument
Why is it just Black friends? What about Asians, Native Americans, Alaska Natives, Native Hawaiians, other Pacific Islanders, Middle Easterners, North Africans, Hispanics, and Latino Americans?
Way to be racist and xenophobic, The Guardian.
Not an argument.
Of all the people to point this kind of habit out for, I feel like Jonathan Franzen might be the worst. At least he is honest enough to admit it and recognize it as something of a problem.
Bill's looking a bit under the weather these days
Maybe the worst article I've read all year.
Lindy West really is stupid.
Yeah it's really concerning
>>xxxRichxxx 5h ago I've got a black friend, does that make me unusual
>hardatwork 5h ago no, it makes you a neo-colonialist
lmao these comments are killing me
You are fucking retarded if you try to dismiss this by spouting "le /pol/" rhetoric.
And as a part of a minority group myself i am simply tired of this patronizing racism of these uppity upper middle class PC gestapo,we don't actually like being treated like that retarded kid with whom the rest of the class is forced to play with by the teachers.
There's nothing wrong with sticking with your own,on contrary you are more likely to stick with your own kind ,only the whites are foolish enough to think otherwise and fall into this narrative of guilt as a result.
Hi tumblr
what else can you expect from this hambeast??
uhh hes literally espousing the total opposite of tumblr ideology bruv
Hello fellow snow nigger.
>hes
>bruv
did you just assume my gender ?
Ugly too.Pic related is her
Hello, my hwhite brother.
Brother, like man, is gender neutral. Honestly everyone knows that, stop shaming non-binary people.
Wow, really made me think....
>stop shaming non binary people
>implying their mere existence isn't enough for that
Memes aside,is frazen any good??
>Lindy west
And that's where I stopped reading.
I read Freedom, it was somewhat enjoyable, but felt like a mom book.
Its kind of weird to make an effort to "stick to your own" by now. But Franzen is a middle aged man. When he went to Swarthmore there were probably 20 black kids that probably stuck together.
We still do by default,it's only the whites that feel guilty about it and have to come up with these garbage articles that fires the separatist sentiments even further.
These very self righteous idealistic niggas would have been the one wearing capes and carrying the lynch mob against the minority if they were in a different era.
>White people should stay in our lane.
What causes a person to be so filled with self-hatred and sanctimony? Is there a cure for white liberals?
Mandatory military service and stoicism might cure this white liberal phenomenon.
Oh shoot another white guy problem.
What did he mean by this
White guy problems are culturally superior to brown people problems. You can't create at the highest level of knowledge unless you have privilege. The intellectual have-nots can only share their envy and resentment for the haves
Nigger detected
Someone should inform all the asian exchange students on american college campuses who refuse to speak english or talk to anyone but each other
I've never read nor really cared about Franzen at all but that Slate interview was actually pretty interesting and made me want to read his shit. He seems like a boring white man, is that actually true? I feel like that's what I'm growing up into
Bait thread, bait article
Sage
>middlebrow author's friend demographics
>worth writing or reading about
Holy shit end this thread now
I haven't read The Corrections, which is supposedly his masterpiece, but I didn't find Purity to be reflective of the praise that's heaped on him as an author who understands and picks apart the modern human condition. It was a well-told and genuine story, but not really groundbreaking in my opinion, though he's great at holding the reader's attention. At this point it's given that any discussion of Franzen draws comparisons to DFW, so I would say that if you've read the latter's fiction, you can expect similarities tone-wise. Both ineffably capture what it feels like to live in modern Western society, but Wallace was more concerned with artistic authenticity than Franzen, who writes proper 'narratives.' Wallace's works often feel like volumes in an overarching manifesto.
This is ridiculous imo. She's asking Franzen to forego his artistic integrity by exploring a theme which he has absolutely no interest or personal involvement in.
>admits that doesnt have many black friends
>admits that it wouldnt be wise to write about a black character
>cunt still tries to make him look like a bad guy
I dont know anything of Franzen's writing, but the author of this """""Article""""" is a fucking white guilt ridden cunt.
>white people should stay in our lane
she sounded like a non white racist person. lol.
>takes a sassy picture gobbling up a slurpee
I dont think she knows how much she makes people laugh.
I like how this isn't even an interview with Franzer, but someone's logorrhetic discharge on someone else's interview with Franzen. Also, Lindy West, where's your book on the black experience? Or do you not have one because you're too busy taking potshots at successful writers in your lefty tabloid thinkpieces?
What a stupid article. He admits he doesn't have the knowledge nor experience to write an authentic black character due to a lack of interaction with them. How this means he is complicit in encouraging the racial divide is beyond me. He clearly knew some idiots were going to seize on this as ammunition.
>expects an author to pour out his heart about social issues in some random interview as if its his responsibility to be a representative of the white race in every facet of his life
i'm all about social justice but wew this sounds just like the kind of thing people complain about white people doing to black people, expecting every individual to be a monolith
I bet the racist pig doesn't even have an ebonics chapter in any of his books.
>The profoundly colonial notion that “loving” a black woman can magically imbue a white man with the insight to “write fully from the inside” of her – that having sex with a person gives you ownership over their story – is evidence enough of that.)
>GQ
How the mighty have fallen
I'm glad I'm not the only one who has noticed that.
Actually that's not what she's doing
>the mighty
c'mon now
Maybe I'm not old enough, but I would imagine GQ was much less SJW years ago.
Who the fuck is GQ?
Gentlemans Quarterly.
That doesn't mean it didn't suck.