isn't it highly probable that everything we've learned about the universe is just what our primitive organ is able to perceive?
all documented "reality" is human perception and the mathematics we've invented was formed based on this organ's ability to process selective stimuli
say, even if we use mathematics to sufficiently define the "laws" of the universe, we will never be able to truly understand the mechanics of which it operates due to the limited capability of our biology
us trying to explain the universe is like using a monochromatic camera for a documentary on the subtleties of color hues in a rainbow
Levi Jones
>primitive organ
Compared to what?
Cooper Hernandez
>isn't it highly probable that everything we've learned about the universe is just what our primitive organ is able to perceive? ...Mechanically guaranteed. Literally, there is no other possible way to look at a given machine's total spectrum of states and operations.
>primitive organ Relative to... what? A hypothetical ideal?
Dylan Kelly
>isn't it highly probable that everything we've learned about the universe is just what our primitive organ is able to perceive?
You can test your sensory input and thoughts against things that probably aren't just your brain, like mechanical diagnostic tools, the perspectives of people other than yourself, and abstract mathematical checks. Unless someone or something is actively conspiring to keep you inside an elaborate illusion where every difference avenue of information you have is a lie, then simply checking yourself with other people, machines, and/or abstract systems should give you plenty of basis for knowledge beyond your base senses.
Samuel Myers
He is talking about blacks.
Luke Davis
When it comes to mathematics, physics and other sciences I believe personally the majority of what we perceive as true is accurate, at least until its changed due to new information and theories. Where I am inclined to agree with you is in regards to how we experience things physically, for instance there could be an alien species that see's everything in ultraviolet which would lend a unique perspective to the Universe but wouldn't change the fundamental laws governing it. In time I think Humanity will augment itself with technology so that our ability to learn, study and explain the universe will increase but I don't think this would change our fundamental laws of the universe. The universe doesn't care about us, its laws and rules will remain static just our ability to decipher them will increase once we abandoned our primitive human biology and transcend.
Austin Lee
And a steam engine will never get us out of the gravity well, so space travel is impossible?
I agree our brains seem to be quite limited in all the patterns they can harness. But this doesn't mean we're stuck. We evolved from something without brains, after all.
The Will finds a way.
Jacob Scott
I meant to convey how our main processor (the brain) was developed in it's majority for handling subjects fine tuned to ape's necessities (socializing, sex, etc..)
how can we honestly expect to ever (or at least in the next ~1000 years - which is minuscule in an evolutionary standpoint) to be able to understand the mechanics of the universe (or multiverses for that matter) in its entirety?
Austin White
We developed math and used science to study what our mind cant percieve.
Imagine Xrays. What do they look like? Your imagination cant form a real image of an Xray.