In 2013...

>In 2013, the double-slit experiment was successfully performed with molecules that each comprised 810 atoms (whose total mass was over 10,000 atomic mass units).
What the fuck why is this allowed to happen?

Other urls found in this thread:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave–particle_duality
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter_wave
twitter.com/NSFWRedditImage

Mass is a wave.

It is fucked up mate. We have also done the experiment with single photons and electrons with the same result.

Check out the Quantum Enigma if you arent for that rigorous math (as in there is no math) but want to learn about QE

Mind blown. Is there any specific science to back this up? Not trying to argue i just want to find some of this stuff if it is out there.

Well, what do you want to know?

It happens because matter behaves as a wave, hence, and waves bounce around, including on the slit, which means they interfere even with each other causing such a pattern.

de Broglie wavelength. Google matter waves

>Is there any specific science to back this up?
all of qm?
Read Shankar

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave–particle_duality

check it out and read about our main main debroigle and how he realised that if light is particle-like, particles must be wave-like.

those are small particles, and their debroigle wavelength isnt insignificant at that size.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter_wave

Mass is not a wave. That's complete nonsense.

It is a shame how carelessly taught undergrad modern physics is. You have actual physics majors coming out believing this kind of stuff and all the faculty know it's a problem. But they say "Oh well" and leave everything to be relearned in grad school.

It's not a problem, quantum mechanics explains it clear as mud

...

...

what's that and why is it so hot?

didn't they try the experiment again after slowing down the rate at which the molecules were fired with the same results. Sorry this if this is dumb, I'm still trying to wrap my head around this mass is a wave idea.

Just ignore it. It's a real shame that even after all the achievements in quantum field theory, it just seems to be so inaccessible to people that they still spout either made-up ideas that have little value besides being nice catch phrases ("mass is a wave!") or ancient ideas ("The wave-particle duality!"). There are beautiful didactic explanations of what seems to be going on at that scale, but nothing seems to stick. People still only remember the most incomplete and naive concepts they've learned (or rather misunderstood) in their first QM undergrad course. Overall, the critical thing people are confronted with when trying to understand these things is that the whole characteristic of the phenomena is tried to be summarized in single words like "wave" or "particle" as if nothing else exists on this planet. So of course you'll end up with the feeling that the whole thing is very paradoxical (even though it really is absolutely not. It's unintuitive, granted, but you can get over that).

Imagine space as a 2d grid, looking down relative to us. Over time and by logical processes, space and time curve in certain places. Gravity is not so much a force as it is the observed result of matter moving through space toward equilibrium. Anyway, If you imagine 2d space around earth and wherever there's matter to curve space, such as earth, the 2d grid would bend downward and the pure existence of the mass would cause it to move. Imagine this, but up another 2 dimensions and you got our universe. Movement is pure illusion, as well as time. And for that matter. Space too. Everything is basically a static grouping of 4th dimentional structures that work out logically in 3 dimentions.

It is a wave. the same thing that happens when you have matter interact with space time is a wave. It's the fabric of space shifting around. You just have to get something strong enough to treat 4th dimentional space as kind of a blanket. You can lift it up, put it down, then you basically have a wave.

>Mass is not a wave. That's complete nonsense.
Matter has a wavelength. If it's not a wave, what is it?
>the whole characteristic of the phenomena is tried to be summarized in single words like "wave" or "particle" as if nothing else exists on this planet.
Okay, what else is there? Please, let's put all this confusion to rest. How would you describe matter? I along with every respectable physicist would claim matter is a wave-particle. Everything exhibits wave characteristics and particle characteristics. It's not nonsense, it's how electron microscopes work. I'm sorry that you can't understand this concept and have to bash all of quantum mechanics for not using things other than waves and particles (Protip: theres nothing else).

The interaction of the wave with the slit causes diffraction.
So even with a smaller rate you still get the interference pattern.

It happens with all waves, including water, pic related.

>Matter has a wavelength. If it's not a wave, what is it?
Mass is a measure of inertness, which corresponds to a certain value of energy associated with an object.
Energy, in turn, corresponds to a wavelength of a quant, that is a portion of energy
there's no direct correspondence between mass and wavelength, especially on macroscopic scales

If matter is not a wave what is it?
>mass is nothing more than inertia
Okay well then how do you define inertia?
>forget I said that. mass=energy
How do you define energy?
>energy corresponds to a wavelength of quant
Wait what? What the fuck is quant?
>quant is nothing more than a portion of energy
What does any of this have to do with the question I asked? matter has wavelength, so if it isn't a wave what is it?
>on the macroscopic scale it doesn't so it doesn't matter
Holy Shit you're retarded. Stop throwing buzzwords around and answer the fucking question.

mass is the constant of proportion in Newton's second Law: F=ma. Matter exhibits wave and particle properties not mass. However, it is best to say that the particles' wavefunctions obey the Schroedinger equation which is what gives rise to these results. Why does it happen? Because it does. But the mechanism behind it is described by Shroedinger's equation.

The solutions are wavelike and these wave interference patterns emerge.

everything is wave dynamics

>In 2014, the double-slit experiment was successfully performed with humans. They were running through a wall with two open doors and then against a glass wall.
>When done in the dark, a double slit pattern could be observed where the humans hit the glass. While when the light was turned on, a result resembling two superimposed single-slit patterns emerged on the glass wall.
Really maeks you thing.

force is a vector so maybe energy has a wave vector ?

>What the fuck why is this allowed to happen?
whats your concern? afraid research will uncover some dreadful conspiracy?

it's an experiment that has been routinely carried out since 1801. chill the fuck out

Can someone give me a babby explanation of the double slit experiment and why this one is special?

Is it because they didn't expect to see quantum effects from a system comprised of so many atoms?

what else would you expect from a holographic universe?

>babby explanation
a wave passing through two slits produces and interference pattern, basically dark and light strokes. when particles such as electrons and photons are fired through the slits randomly, and we DONT measure which slit they go through before they hit the screen, the same pattern is seen. this implies that particles (matter) and waves share some properties, but only before they are observed. as soon as you observe (interact with in any way, which includes measuring) a quantum object, it becomes a particle and it goes through the slits as particles would; randomly.

this wave-like description of particles is called a wave function. it collapses into a particle when observed.

>Is it because they didn't expect to see quantum effects from a system comprised of so many atoms?
well yeah as mass increases the size of these wavefunctions gets smaller until you get to about the size of cells, and then they just act like particles pretty much all the time
they're still there though, the wavefunctions. a cell or even a person could theoretically do something like quantum tunneling, just over a really really short distance

Lets say we found a way which slit the photon went through without collapsing the wave function, what would change with that knowledge.

Why do photons even need to behave like this, surely the universe would still be here if photons just were particles and nothing else.

Performing diffraction on mice when?

>thinking that constants don't change and decay over vast amounts of time
>thinking that the universe and nature behaves exactly the same to every last detail as it did during the planck epoch
>thinking that humanity, despite being the universe observing itself, will ever fully comprehend the inner workings of reality

kek

go back to tumblr and make some space posts

Is this at like +50% c?

What's with all the shitposting on Veeky Forums in the last week? It's been pretty bad for quite a while now, but recently almost every thread is either flooded with greentexting morons or an outright troll thread.

Same shit with "relativistic mass". That concept needs to die yesterday.