ITT: Overused literature quotes that make you cringe every time they're used in modern media

No. He was speaking about how believing in God and intellectual honesty in philosophy were no longer compatible. Which is the real reason for the modern (XX century) prevalence of atheism.

>this is what atheists actually believe

He wasn't talking about one thing in particular.

this is why "God is dead" is such a terrible quotation

anime

>edgy villian quotes Hamlet as he holds a gun to someones head
>heh, to be or not to be? >;)))

Saw that in a trailer for some terrible looking movie the other day, sometimes I think they just put shit like that in movies and television to bother people like me.

>If you kill him you will be just like him

"you're a wizard Harry"

EVERY-FUCKING-TIME I WATCH HARRY POTTER AND THE PHILOSOPHERS STONE™ HE ALWAYS SAYS IT. WHAT A FUCKING TROPE ROWLING YOU HACK. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Fucking this.

>Murderous psycopath kills your entire family in cold blood
>if you kill him, you are both the same

What kind of a retard came up with this to begin with?

>god's not dead, he's surely alive!

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will..." Etc. Etc.

>It was the best of times, it was the worst of times

>we're all mad here xD

kek

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anything from Rudyard Kipling's If.

and he's LIVIN on the inside roaring like a lion

>books
>animes
>video games
>movies

this shit is everywhere

It's funny because Kagamin is a lonely bookworm who takes things too seriously.

>You're a big guy

>For you

>what is moral relativism?
You would be both just following the same animalistic impulses user, no matter, if you think your action can be considered righteous in the context of perception.

Bonus points when:
> the phrase changes someone's mind immediately
> it wouldn't actually be true
> not killing said person leads to more deaths

No, he was saying that God is dead in any sort of meaningful/societal sense. Too few people, even in Nietzsche's time, believed in 'God' sincerely enough for it to matter any more - only it did, because Nietzsche realized that Humanity/society was woefully unprepared to enter into an era where God (and the belief in him) would be significantly absent.

You can notice it now, what with the absurd spike in 'Cultural Christian' retards.

You could say this about literally anything. Me sticking a fork inside a cooked pork chop is basically the same action as sticking my fork in an infants eyesocket.

>no matter, if you think your action can be considered righteous in the context of perception

Idiotic sophistry.

Whats wrong with cultural Christianity, out of interest?

t. Justin Trudeau

if you consider killing a psychopath who killed your family to be morally similar to killing said psychopath, thats moral objectivism lol. how can u fuck up on such simple philosophical concepts

That quote isn't really overused though. The "Whatever doesn't kill me makes me stronger" quote is vastly more overused and cliche tbqhfamalam.

Not the other guy, but Christianity is supposed to be an individual spiritual experience, not going to church because your pastor/priest tells you that you'll go to hell if you don't.

>I believe in taking care of myself and a balanced diet and rigorous exercise routine. In the morning if my face is a little puffy I'll put on an ice pack while doing stomach crunches. I can do 1000 now. After I remove the ice pack I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a water activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial mask which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion.

It's one of Nietzsche's, and it's actually a good one.

Retards think they disprove it by responding with things like "polio", but it's plainly obvious that Nietzsche wasn't referring solely to physical strength.

>Man is born free but everywhere he is in chains.

Nobody bothers to finish the paragraph, which changes the meaning entirely.

>Machiavelli thinks that, "The ends justify the means."

This is called a means/ends relationship, of course the ends justify the means; the ends are the reason for the means. People also ignore what Machiavelli's ends were (civic republicanism.)

>To be or not to be *holds up skull*

The skull is from the Yorick soliloquy in Act V, the "to be or not" soliloquy is from Act III.

This is getting pedantic, but you guys get the idea.

>but it's plainly obvious that Nietzsche wasn't referring solely to physical strength.

Then what was he referring to if you don't mind me asking?

Mental fortitude, call it what you will.

In one of his aphorisms, he says that he wants his philosophical 'followers' to suffer every kind of pain and misfortune possible. If they come out of it without having given into pessimism/etc, they are worthy of his name.

Is your brain okay, user? Maybe you should see a doctor

>If they come out of it without having given into pessimism/etc, they are worthy of his name.

So something that is never going to happen in other words.

I saw someone with a tattoo of this recently. I don't get it.

That's oddly similar to the suffering undergone by Glaucon and Adeimantus' just man in Republic II.

Not often.

Nietzsche admits he is writing for a very select group/type of people.

I think he knew he wasn't writing for anyone, which is why he had to invent a concept like the Übermensch, because he knew that humans would never be able to rise to his challenge.

a lot of times people who produce terrible media are actually well read in classics/like good films

they just cant replicate their inspirations

#NotAllMuslims ib u r raycis terrorist win!!1!

anyways i hate pussy ass protags who are too "moral" to kill anyone.

good contributions

99% of epik shonen protags
much less common in [good] books

>brevity is the soul of wit

Fuck off. Polonius is the idiot of the play, and Hamlet makes fun of him for speaking in clichés. It was also a line in Shakepeare's longest play by far. The notion that it was some immortal advice for artists is laughable.

>It was also a line in Shakepeare's longest play by far.

That's actually pretty funny.

also a good post

Nietzsche 'hated' plato just like he 'hated' the Bible and 'hated' Faust. 80% of zarathustra is him riffing off of these things and a few others.

>A book for Everyone and No one
literally the tagline of Zarathustra

weeb

The line is definitely meant to be humorous. Polonius uses it as a sort of 'to make a long story short' after an entire diatribe where he speaks without really saying anything. And people treat it like its some sage advise from the immortal Bard himself.

>abandon all who ye who enter

That one line got me to read The Divine Comedy as an edgy teenager, and I later went into Paradise Lost and the Greeks. Maybe it's not all that bad.

so, letting a guy who already killed 10 people live and move on to kill 10 more people (and therefore indirectly killing 10 people) is a better moral choice than killing one person?

>Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

I'll just take the word "media" literally and talk about a quotation most often found in blog posts, columns, other opinion pieces and such:

“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”
It is always used as a lazy critique of "progressive" politics. Generally not quoted word-to-word.

Not that I agree with every (pseudo)-leftist policy, but it is just cringy to use this quote to sound clever and try to shut everyone up with no further argumentation.

Every time people talk about current events as "Orwellian".

>implying they're not Huxlean

Fuck back off to /tv/ that isn't a literature quote.

>what are moral theories besides forms of consequentialism

Yes, the somewhat utilitarian approach seems very common sense, but is really isn't the only arguable position.

And even egoism is still a moral theory. From the point of view of a moral egoist, you could, for example, refuse to kill the psychopath because that'd make you feel sad, possibly traumatize you etc.

This is literally upper secondary school 1st philosophy course stuff.

Its a retarded quote if used as a sort of "general wisdom" rather than a kind of "something to aspire to".
I mean, it is obvious a lot of people are hurt by things without getting any stronger, either physically or mentally.
Even Nietzsche himself, while I admit he was very strong, ended up going crazy for his last years.

Yes yes not movies/etc, but:
"To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all."
(by Wilde)

Though I actually love it and how it is taken out of context.

It is used as a kind of you know, inspirational quote by petit bourgeoisie youngsters who love to travel and "live in the moment". A beautiful saying that you'd use when appreciating or remembering a nice moment or whatever.

Now, maybe Wilde would approve of many of their ways, no doubt he would: but the real context of this particular quote is his "The Soul of Man under Socialism". The context is Wilde praising a kind of anarchist-socialist utopia, he attaches this "living" to real life socioeconomic conditions, it is not a mere inspirational aphorism. So I find its use highly ironic and comic.

A utilitarian approach provably results in the optimal utility. In fact, you are maximizing a utility function even if you aren't intending to do so.

If you refuse to kill the psychopath, you are stating that your hurt feelings are worth more than the lives of ten people. That may be the case, but you can't avoid that conclusion simply by retreating to obsolete forms of ethics.

Well, can I retreat to "b-but in reality, we can't know whether the psychopath will actually kill 10 people or not"? Or what if one of those 10 people is a future terrorist who will explode 100 people, huh?

But really yeah, you're right. But calling it the "more moral choice" based on that is not a truth.

Hell is other people

wat don't kill u make u stronger

>To be or not to be *holds up skull*
Glad I'm not the only one bothered by this.
>Alas poor Yorick, I knew him well
REEEE

>Even Nietzsche himself, while I admit he was very strong, ended up going crazy for his last years.

Nothing to do with his philosophy though, unless you're one of these psychoanalytic retards who think that philosophy can have a meaningful effect upon one's mental health.

The breakdown/insanity he could not help, and it was most probably hereditary in spite of the 'syphilis' claims. Whilst his mental faculties were intact, what didn't kill Nietzsche made him very strong indeed in terms of his will/outlook/etc.

I am thoroughly convinced beliefs such as these are contrived purely to keep the common man from doing some fucking good in the world.

Violent yes, but good nonetheless.

Any line from "Invictus" and "Do Not Go Gently Into that Good Night".

not even a fedora, but this is the correct interpretation

>Am I a good person? No. But do I try to be better every single day? Also no.

A British soldier quoted hamlet before he capped a wounded ISIS fighter, it was caught on audio and I think he was charged with a war crime.

I think he said
>shuffle off this mortal coil, you cunt

>Nothing to do with his philosophy though, unless you're one of these psychoanalytic retards who think that philosophy can have a meaningful effect upon one's mental health.

Someone on here claimed that reading Hegel gave him schizophrenia.

read membership by CS Lewis

*a le tipperty tip tipperson of le hat to you my good sir*

FAGtheism is prevalent in our culture because of the Jewish media trying to destroy western civilization. Intellectual honesty? PFFT. The Bible is all you need.