Convince me that AI isn't a waste of time

Convince me that AI isn't a waste of time.
What positive results can we expect from it?

If no one responds, I am going to press the big red button
that cancels all funding for AI projects.

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Something has to carry on our story if any sentient beings that come looking for us before we ultimately destroy ourselves

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All it will (potentially) do is create a cybernetic sentient being that we will have no control over, because we will have no clue of how it actually works. True intelligence is far too complex to comprehend how it actually functions.

define intelligence

We can make a simulation of a universe?

They will do our jobs for us.

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eventually theres going to be an unsolvable plague on human beings because human beings always know how to fuck shit up.

>I am going to press the big red button
that cancels all funding for AI projects.

go ahead in its current state they work like slightly optimized brute force with their fucking training for fuck knows how many days and hundreds of gigabytes of data.

Just like real brains

Guess they're on the right track

nigga are you retarded
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_learning#Applications
quora.com/What-are-some-real-world-examples-of-applications-of-machine-learning-in-the-field
quora.com/What-are-some-interesting-possible-applications-of-machine-learning

You've been using supposed 'AI' on a daily basis for many years. However, if you mean the popsci definition of AI, basically a consciousness that is very human-like. Then there is no real positive results except maybe making companions for people or something; Humanising the assisting machinery. But yeah, overall it's unlikely to actually happen as there are far more useful AI than that narrow shit.

This.

In addition, AI could be made to invent and discover for us with no other initiative.

Machinery gave us the ability to automate many tasks which could previously only be done by humans. This changed how the global economy functioned. A farm can now be run and harvested by a fraction of the people it used to take.

AI will do this for the intellectual tasks. Many white collar jobs in business, and even some of the low hanging fruit in engineering and science will be automated.

We are looking at the possibility that a huge percentage (perhaps 95% or more) of the labor force will have their jobs automated away.

Also keep in mind this scenario doesn't even require full human level AI. If you can just design a task specific AI for every job, you still accomplish the same thing.

We already have positive results from it you nitwit. You Veeky Forumsentist don't know shit about computer science I swear. You probably think general artificial intelligence is the same as artificial intelligence.

>and even some of the low hanging fruit in engineering and science will be automated.
With the caveat of if it's more cost-effective for companies to do so.

>slightly optimized brute force
slightly....

You realized with the state space of the problems neural networks are solving today, a true brute force... hell even a highly optimized brute force would take like exponents of the lifetime of the galaxy to complete?

Backpropagation is far from brute force. In fact its a remarkably efficient process, largely due to its simplicity.

gets it, if we ever want to reach a state where working is optional and everyone's needs are met, A.I. is a must have.

The transition to automation is already well underway in the manufacturing Industry. Further, in the next five years, it's predicted that 5% of all jobs will be lost to automation, specifically in the form of delivery services and customer support. Trucking and postal services are slated to be the first to go, and just this month the first self-driving trucks will be making their first deliveries. If I had to guess, the next industries to be affected will be customer service, education, and software development. However, I don't view this as necessarily a bad thing. In my opinion, with appropriate global policy changes and regulation to ensure poverty rates do not rise, this could be a beneficial and welcome change to our society.

Can't. All I know is that its complexity is beyond the comprehension of _functional_ intelligence.

Without AI you'd have to play Pong with two-players every time.

dude, you were in the other thread. really bordering on carcinoma

Futurist propaganda

was i?

>What positive results can we expect from it?
Robo waifus

someon around here keeps saying 'define intelligence' every fucking time its used in a sentence. jesus fuck, websters bro. man was a marvel

its a legit question though and it doesnt have to be a hard one either!

whats your definition? obviously you have to have one

>Just like real brains

Eat shit. You have no idea what you're talking about.

samefag

You're right, neural networks are actually more efficient than real brains given that they only take weeks to reach human-level performance in select tasks where as baby brains take years.

i dont know. i think what is intelligent is clearly something that can learn the complex contingencies of its environment and the relation between its physical being and the environment. anything more than that overcontextualises intelligence though context is the only way it will be useful to us.

True AI is impossible, I wish people would stop referring to programs that can play board games as AI.

i dont think you understand what youre saying
>contingencies of its environment
>overcontextualises intelligence though context

Human brains are not AI
Programs are AI because of Artificial reasoning
Go back to fingerpainting, turd

>Programs are AI because of Artificial reasoning
Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about

A program is literally just a function written in a formal notation, computers do not "reason" anything.

Humans have general intelligence, so general intelligence is possible by the laws of physics.

Therefore it could be recreated. If you're not willing to concede this you have to believe in magic.

>dude said all software is AI
>must argue semantics
Turn up the dial on reading comprehension retard. AI is AI because it's artificial by definition. A human brain couldn't be AI because it's a contradiction in terms.

you would understand what i was saying if i wrote out what i meant properly but it would be long. the only astounding thing i think of intelligence itself is learning (and learning to learn). i think anything else gets confounded with things that arent necessarily intelligence because what we say is intelligence as humans is embodied in our evolutionary history, our environments and our physical bodies.

i think sometimes when people mean intelligence they really mean just copying people.

General intelligence could be recreated biologically

There's no way to mechanically recreate general intelligence, with automatic computers, which is what people typically mean when they say AI.

"True AI" does not mean anything.

If you don't think programs that can play board games count as AI then you have some misconceptions of what AI means. Words get their meaning from what people generally try to convey with their usage, and autists with specific and arbitrary criteria for what counts as AI are in the minority.

It could be the step needed to leave behind our mortal coil, becoming immortal.

Why couldn't a simulation of a biological process be run?

but what is learning? im gonna need the longer definition

>There's no way to mechanically recreate general intelligence, with automatic computers

Provide a single iota of proof to this wild and brash claim.

>the big red button that cancels all funding for AI projects.
Press it. Please. Humanity is not ready for this.

>Provide a single iota of proof to this wild and brash claim.
Because automatic computers by nature execute specific programs given to them, they cannot do anything they were not told to do.

The nature of the automatic computer contradicts the idea of general intelligence.

Are you actually retarded or just pretending?

>Are you actually retarded or just pretending?
Clever response!

Also I'm a professional software dev so I kinda know what I'm talking about in this area

Then the shallowness of your argument is not surprising.

What makes you think the molecules in your head are not merely "executing specific programs"? Why do you think the base units of a system being deterministic means that their sum could never exhibit anything we might call 'intelligent behavior'? Ever heard of emergent phenomenon?

>Ever heard of emergent phenomenon?

I think I saw them on tour with the strawberry alarm clock. Didn't notice any AI undertones to the lyrics, but I was pretty baked so could've missed something subtle.

So all the computer scientists, neuroscientists, computational biologists & etc that are working on this shit are retarded and know less about the brain and computing than you Mr. Code Monkey? I swear to God.

>Also I'm a professional software dev so I kinda know what I'm talking about in this area

No, you don't. You don't know the first fucking thing about AI, nor intelligence as a concept. Just focus on shipping your Uber clone.

define intelligence.

this desu

>Convince me that AI isn't a waste of time.
Having the ability to produce minds that are very much smarter than the smartest human would make the rate of human technological development explode.

Sounds like a boring future
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