So what will post-ironic humor look like on the internet and in real life? Will our society survive it?

not post ironic
not post ironic

You have a point, even has flaws concerning a common point between sharing individuals. The only thing that would near to post-irony would be this.

you can take a look at it. it's just porn for 13 year old edgelords who are confused about their sexuality.

"Trollface" wasn't even originally supposed to be a reaction image or whatever, it was just a face in a crudely drawn MS paint comic from 06-07.

>trollface
That's obviously Sans you faggot

You ok son?

I'm not. It's called saudade

this image is completely nonsensical

This is still just ironic. I think the tumblr 'I love my significant other so much!!!!' memes might be post-ironic, not sure.

i think after the whole irony shit is over everyone will go back to the whole self realized absurdity thing, which is cool if it's pulled off well. an example of this is twitter.com/dril

but also they may just abandon the concept of memes as a whole and just go back to generally funny images that don't have to fit a format, and memeing would be left to the scum like the good old days

That's interesting, because I detect no humor here, whether ironic, post-ironic, hemisemi-ironic, tragical-comical-pastoral-historical, whole-wheat, or what-have-you.

>friday night gathering up together a big pile of things i like to respect (flags, crucifixes ,etc) and just roll around in it ,give kisses,

Ironic, isn't it? :^)

dril tweets some goddamn masterpieces sometimes

so, aumms?

elaborate?

Is this ironic?

dril is norme as fuck

get educated twitter.com/utilitylimb

Post ironic is when people use memes to try and make a joke or make people laugh and doesn't use them as something related to the origin of the meme-message itself to express a feeling of understanding and unaccomplished uninterest.

trollface was originally the true form beneath the EFG mask.
i saw it with my own eyes

>twitter.com/utilitylimb
1 follower u may know
LIL B THE BASED GOD

aumms are basically anti-memes. e.g.
>facebook
>.com
>/groups/factsbearandfriends

I was just trying to expound the other poster's point, that moving into a post-ironic collective unconscious will lead to more content that doesn't fit a meme-format, only that it deliberately doesn't fit that format rather than haphazardly so. And then the working-class white folks and ultra religious facebook posters will be left to roll around in their own stock phrases superimposed onto stock images.

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also fuck Veeky Forums's spam filter.

this advanced meme is all four depending on who views it

Veeky Forums is too pleb to understand though

Why do people say we are in a post-ironic age of memes now when shit like Harambe are very much the epitome the ironic """"humor""""?

I will achieve T R I P S

youtube.com/watch?v=fhNaU5mjgAE
Post-ironic Comedy Special

>not posting Bo burnham

This was like watching SNL actors try to be self-aware but unable to quite get rid of an ironic smirk.

Some of it's cringey but it has a lot of brilliance in it.
>The part where he drinks the whole water bottle
>The part where he threatens every female in the audience
>When he starts playing hide and go seek with the crowd

Just keep watching it.

pools closed

Still watching/skimming. The point is that even if it's "brilliant", it is so because its humor is 100% ironic, mocking the tropes and form of stand-up.

Whereas post-irony is something that Bo Burnham's "Make Happy" reaches for. It has a self-conscious awareness of stand-up's form, but rather than that being the "point" or humor of the performance, he works in spite of the form to get at something earnest/single-entendre/etc.

plus the fact that they preempted the video with a montage of fake comedian endorsements screams of insecurity and "lol look how ironic I'm being"

I haven't seen that special, but do you think you could give one example of something in it that achieves what you're mentioning.

>muh new internet humour

heh, you damn kids

VIII.2 (in the basilica); 1882: The one who buggers a fire burns his penis

VIII.2 (in the basilica); 1864: Samius to Cornelius: go hang yourself!

VI.14.20 (House of Orpheus); 4523: I have buggered men

I.7.8 (bar; left of the door); 8162: We two dear men, friends forever, were here. If you want to know our names, they are Gaius and Aulus.

I.10.2-3 (Bar of Prima); 8297: Word square

R O M A
O L I M
M I L O
A M O R

here's the end of it: youtube.com/watch?v=rYy0o-J0x20

The performance here is obviously intentional but since this is Veeky Forums I give it a pass. Watch the whole thing through, but the moment at 6:30 is exactly the moment where he tries to transcend irony by using the ironic and funny moments of the song (Chipotle etc.) to demonstrate their vacuity in the face of his mental health issues he'd just been talking about.

>today I made bread

How is that not just plain ironic?

post-ironic is plain ironic

*holds up wooden spork*

>go on Veeky Forums
>people are posting bo burnham clips
good bye

You think that you understand memes, but you do not understand memes.

>Post irony has been a thing for like 2 years now
More like 5 years. Floral Shoppe was released in late 2011.

>post-ironic is plain ironic
post-something don't mean "more something " but "beyond-something" e.g. post-anarchism

>Floral Shoppe
>Not this post-postironic masterpiece

so?

Most "post-irony" examples are just regular irony

So is post irony just new sincerity?
if not whats the difference?

is this fucking reddit

new sincerity is just post-modernism lapping itself

>Most "post-irony" examples are just regular irony
then they aren't post-ironic

New Sincerity attempts to abandon irony in favour of sincerity. Post-Irony no longer clearly differentiates between irony and sincerity.

Wrapping my head around these multiple layers of irony is somethin I genuinely struggle with. Am I a retard or are multiples layers of irony an ironic concept as well?

t. sincerity

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i love utility limb as much as the next guy but he literally hasn't tweeted since 2012. dril still tweets daily so i think he's better.

Ive been on this website for 10 years now. Damn

that is the unfunniest fucking bullshit i have ever seen in my entire life, complete ass, hot garbage

thanks for wasting my time you piece of shit

also it's not post irony at all

FUCK you niggers have complete shit taste

why do i even come here

if you honestly thought that was funny you should just kill yourself

reddit comment section is genuinly funnier than that

at this point lit is pretty much just a 50/50 mix of /mu/ and /pol/ crossposters

no wonder why its dogshit

Where does this fall on the timeline? Could it be???

Did DFW successfully make IJ New Sincerity as described in his essay? I keep hearing it as an 'attempt.'

Post-ironic image right here

>Will our society survive it?
Probably not.

to be clear, I posted bo burnham in response to the dan klein clip. Dan is ironic, bo is (at least trying to be) post-ironic. Whether you like either of them is beside the point, they just happen to illustrate the difference well.

Self awareness ≠ postmodernism

kek

What do you think of the Silmarillion

This post is the real post irony.

Its like the ambiguity of post-irony's definition has become a meme itself

Have some gangster popeye

How so?

just realized this is from 2014
so his career ended after this?

What ever happened to new post-sincerity?

I honestly don't know.

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The audience seems to be responding to that as though it was entirely sincere. I know he gets a lot of hate for being too middle-class but Stewart Lee is a lot better at whatever this is
youtube.com/watch?v=QQsknEsgz7s

>I know he gets a lot of hate for being too middle-class
That's pure ressentiment. He's no more middle class than any other idiot that gets paid to do writing shit, and his background is considerably more disadvantaged than most who throw that accusation.

Sure, I don't care, I like his stuff. He actually deconstructs stand-up comedy as opposed to what that Dan guy is doing, which is just "ironically" doing bad stand-up.

All I'm saying is his father was Scottish, his mother was his father (Scotch people repoduce asexually), so when he sees a haggis he doesn't know whether to eat it or stick up his ass.

According to Wikipedia he was adopted and brought up in Shropshire. I can't think of any stereotypes about Shropshire.

anti-islamic standup

The point of it seems to be taking the most retarded, trashy, juvenile forms possible and sticking into them things that are very arcane, offensive, or somehow far out the mainstream. For instance, that frog pic has obviously advanced occult symbols only someone who's researched into can tell the meaning of, put in the form exploited today by countless idiots on twitter and facebook (Pepe le frog!!!) and, of course, Veeky Forums, as a way of, so to speak, "taking back" the meme by making such an obscure and overly intelligent picture no one would think of posting on facebook.

Same with the tacky looking posters, they look like something children on the internet would be posting and laughing over on 9gag, but are instead too offensive or incomprehensible for that.

And then the stickman comic, finally, looks like some mainstream xkcd type funny meme comic that could be reposted everywhere, but is too bizarre to be.

>The point of it seems to be taking the most retarded, trashy, juvenile forms possible and sticking into them things that are very arcane, offensive, or somehow far out the mainstream. For instance, that frog pic has obviously advanced occult symbols only someone who's researched into can tell the meaning of, put in the form exploited today by countless idiots on twitter and facebook (Pepe le frog!!!) and, of course, Veeky Forums, as a way of, so to speak, "taking back" the meme by making such an obscure and overly intelligent picture no one would think of posting on facebook.
It's no pic related.

>And then the stickman comic, finally, looks like some mainstream xkcd type funny meme comic that could be reposted everywhere, but is too bizarre to be.
And it's no super mega.

All lack a certain level of quality for sure.

yung lean - kyoto

>muh esoteric internet humor
>muh multiple layers of irony

Go back to twitter and facebook you faggots

>summer

Someone reply when this thread has hit terminal irony. I'll wait as long as it takes.

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They are jogging on a treadmill and like to pretend they're moving forward.

These make me laugh.

>looks like loss
>doesn't act like loss
How am I supposed to trust an ironic meme to tell me about post- and meta-ironic memes?

There is a Lad from there.

what will post-post-ironic look like? dimwit.