Is studying Biology a meme? Can you actually find a job afterwards?

Because we don't have other things to post on one of the most slow boards?

Chill, just use the filter

I would say no as long as you do something with your degree or get a specific one. I would try to major in animal science or something along those lines if you want to do something in that field. Biology is flooded with pre-med, pre-vet, and generally undecided people. Basically

What can one so with a degree in animal science?

Literally only girls major in "animal science." It qualifies you to be a vet tech.

So, should one who is interested in biology go into bio-chemistry or biotech instead, if he wants to find a good job afterwards?

At my school it's usually either pre-vet or going into farming. I study Ecology because I'm more interested in zoology.

network network network
if you can't put a decent conversation together you're fucked

be enthusiastic and passionate about the subject and spend a bit of time making a small elevator speech spiel for each proff you would be interested in helping ( check out their faculty research page )

Is the field of genetics specific enough to not fall in those trappings?

Guelph?

That bug is kawaii as fuck. Tiny lifeforms are very intriguing to me

is geology a meme

Get a BS in Biology while taking lots of lab classes
Get a MS in Biochem/Biotech
That's the way to get guaranteed jobs

Yes. Most geologists I've met tend to be the least socially awkward and "quirky" scientists around though.

Is this true?

Can a biofag confirm?

I could gove no shits about med.

I had a professor at my university come into my class for a biochemistry master's program. He spoke of unresolved problems pertaining to the creation of biofuels.

>Unsolved
>Problems

You will find a job there if you look for it.

So you're saying Geology is for Chads?

Honestly networking is extremely easy if you're talented and extremely passionate about the subject at hand.

If I major in ecology and population genetics how much on the field work should I expect (I love working outdoors)

I hear there are far more Chem Majors.

Premeds have to do research to be competitive champ

Theyre evolving

>yfw this is actually feasible now with homologs switching

Fuck where is my funding and lab with no ethics

To make any money you have to support the evolution myth

Andrew killed the thread

I am currently studying biology, and I'm actually surprised with how easy is to find jobs if you are interested enough.
I have worked with a lot of my teachers and I'm currently working on an autism research group in the field of neuroscience.
So, if you want a job being a biologist, just study hard.

>So, if you want a job being a biologist, just study hard.
This applies for every filed, though.

I'm studying biology and there are almost no men at all. I feel like a faggot.

>Is studying Biology a meme?

It's not really studying biology as it is being "pre-med". And, most pre-meds tend to be bio majors.

>Can you actually find a job afterwards?

You can, but you need to do two things. First, as has been mentioned, get involved in independent research as an undergrad. Join a lab. Start as early as you can, even if you're washing glassware and making stocks and maintaining inventory as a freshman or sophomore. By your junior and senior years, you should have a research project. That will go much farther towards getting a job than your grades or major.

Second, if possible, specialize in a "track" within the bio majors. Most programs should have different paths; my undergrad (small liberal arts school, so quite limited) had three: ecology/evolutionary biology; human biology; molecular/cellular biology. In general, you want to be around molecular biology, cellular biology, genetics, biotechnology, biochemistry (though that will probably be a separate degree program), etc.

When it comes to finding a job in research, my advice has been to start as a lab tech in academia for a few years after undergrad. Doing a few years as a tech will give you more autonomy and a broader skill set than a job in industry. It's a great stepping-stone to an RA position in industry, grad school, or even the business side of biotech.

Gentech here, no its not.

>Easiest
I switched from Chem to Bio, some of my bio classes are harder than any of the chemistry stuff due to the sheer volume of content you have to learn.
They're both just memorisation, but still.

Do you know it doesn't work because you tried doing it and created a horrible monstrosity? If yes, tell me more.

I know it doesnt work because thats not how homologs work.

Developmental genetics is not Armored Core. You cant just swap parts by swapping genes. That said there are ways you could create a catgirl daughterfu within reason, though the ethics of that would be kinda foggy.

The funny thing about genetics is that when people say "wow, you can do X with genetic engineering", without years of research, trial and error, and money, the answer is almost always either "in theory", "kind of", or "not to any practical degree".

In this specific case, it depends what you mean by "catgirl".

The ears are probably a no go, or at least impractical to the extent that you'd be better off just doing it surgically. Fur and whiskers would be fairly straightforward, but at that point we need to get out the anime-to-bestiality catgirl sliding scale to see where you want to end up.

Do you personally believe theres going to be an explosion in the field?

>because thats not how homologs work.
Explain.
>Developmental genetics is not Armored Core. You cant just swap parts by swapping genes.
No but you can swap homologs, so long as they are contrived enough to have similar regulatory domains, it should be pretty straight forward. That aren't many novel genes in cat that can't be found to be homologous to those found in humans, and those that are have less to due with physical attributes than the rest. It's the tiny differences in those homologs , in those econded proteins we share, that manifest in what make us (at least) different

Easier as in less abstract and more accessible to the pleb who wants to play doctor.

Bio major here
You need to do grad school
I decided against med because it's too much work for me, so I'm doing pharmacy school instead.
Gonna start next fall
Hoping it's actually applied biochem and not a 100k/year cashier job

>Doing pre-med
>Not going to a third world shithole and get into med school straight out of highschool
>Implying you need all those bullshit courses and useless knowledge to become a physician

By the end of next year i'm supposed to call myself doctor and actually treat people, yet i don't know shit and all you are required to do anyway is memorize the same bunch of prescriptions you'll be giving to people over and over and over again.

Being a doctor is piss easy, i don't know why you americans make it so complicated. Your health system is not even good and you waste all those years of study and earning credits to have machines make diagnosis instead. Why do you even try? Clinical medicine is dead in The States, but that's fine because that way you'll keep hiring more shitskins like me to parasite your monetized health system.

>Your health system is not even good

It's privatized. It may be shit for poor fans but top-quality is anything but that. I believe it's something like 97% of all pharmaceuticals have been made in American since the Marshal Plan.for From statins to steroids, it has been developed by the Big Pharmacy complex of America. Family physicians have always been shit

My point still stands.

I don't get why medicine is such a popular career in the states, the US has good technology and develops new drugs, but that's not what people who study medicine do. People who study medicine sit behind a desk and have to deal with people's inability to describe their most menial problems, only to write the same shit over again for 8 hours a day.

absolutely

Not him but it has a lot to do with job security in general. At the higher pay grade levels in medicine prestige and salary.

So they're in for the money. Not a very smart move considering how cheaper is to import foreign doctors who actually do clinical practice and who don't waste so much time in university. I figure that it has to do with higher education as a business though, but its sad to see so many fall for that scam.

If you want a job in biology, biotech seems to be the way to go. Broad field with many practical applications and specialisations.

I just asked a tutor in one of my lab classes if she had any volunteer positions available and now I'm in a research lab on track to honours and phd in the same lab. If I'm lucky, I might be able to be taken on as permanent staff when I'm done.
Just throw yourself out there to anybody working in the field you're interested in. You should be able to find a PhD student or researcher to take you under their wing if you try.
Plant Biotechnology major btw, lab does plant genetic engineering.

job has nothing with skills to do. it is something that is given if you are a reasonably OK person who is not a troublemaker for the ones with power.

You can but you'll have to face off against the insane amount of washed out med students or people who got told to fuck off from med school.

doesn't exist any undergrad research where I am. you simply haven't learned shit so you're able to do any research before you finish your masters.

that's why you study a relatively niche field that premed/biomed kiddies aren't qualified in.

if you're not doing research before the end of your masters, what the fuck are you doing in honours? Or is the system in your country different to mine.

Biofag here

No it's no more of a meme than Chem or Phys in that it is just as difficult to find a decent job afterwards. That is, if you want to be a fucking normie and go into industry which in Bio or Phys is basically like saying "I was at the bottom of my class and barely scraped through undergad". Chem is slightly different, as being a Chartered industrial chemist > Chem Ph.D.

If you want to do science then do real science and do research. I speak as someone who got a Bachellors, Masters and a postgrad Diploma (in tandem with Masters) before using 2 years in industry as experience before going on to a Ph.D. Industry was a fucking joke, the research felt like churning out the same shit hundreds of times, you will not grow as a scientists in industry unless you get very lucky with the job. I made the most of the fact that the people around me (especially managers) knew fuck all about anything, so didn't really question it when I just did my own shit and carried out my own research.

tl;dr industrial Biology is meme tier and screams "I am not good enough for academia"

Bachelors 3 years, ending with a small thesis (2-3 months). Masters 2 years ending with a large thesis (4-6 months). The masters thesis is expected to be somewhere close to some frontier at least in some sense. But really it's not until second year PhD student or something like that you even start learning about research and how publishing works.

I know several people who quit their phd at some stage. In many places it really is mostly a milking machine. Thing is some people realize it so late that they become afraid of quitting by the sunken cost fallacy. " I have already spent this amount of time on it, would be a waste not to finish ". So many young promising people lured by that stuff.

A decent amount but also be ready to do a lot of modeling with mathfags

>tfw a strong 6 to light 7 bio major
>all the guys in the field are fucking freaks (except a few chad premeds)
>qt bio major gf
Feels good man