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Can someone explain to me the Unbelievable tier? Why is Aerospace one of the best degrees?

Its a meme chart posted by idiots that think money is the only thing worth striving towards

You can tell because fucking engineering is at the top

t. physics major

not to mention computer engineering is barely more profitable or marketable than liberal arts

Its just a meme. All the degrees above Shit are fine, the degrees in Shit depend on how you use it. Suicide Tier is the only one 100% bad.

A chart used for shitposting.
Polite sage.

Aero here. Was sold to us as being able to get a job in anything once you're done and that job would pay well, and that the maths and physics to be done was the most challenging in engineering. Chances are this chart was made by either a CS guy or an aero. I'd say that EEE is probably the most top tier, I can't stand control dynamics and they do basically an abstracted form of it all day.

Realistically as long as you go to a good uni it's pretty much impossible to choose a shit degree unless you purposely try to do so

why is transportation so bad? and why is it mentioned twice?

>Unbelievable tier
This tier should be for any degree from a top school like Harvard Duke UChicago. Any degree from Harvard is better than a stem degree from Turd Tech.

Both of my parents have MS in Aerospace engineering. ROTC Boston University, went back after service to get their graduate degrees. One works as a logistics manager in a black box contractor position for the USAF and works 50 hours a week, the other works from home. Both make 100k+ a year. Degree tiers are a meme, its all about what jobs you can personally get.

it's a chart made by /pol/
aka indentured white trash

Thou posteth in a thread of trolls

Depart from this place henceforth

>Its a meme chart posted by idiots
Actually most likely engineers rampaging through /pol/.

t.PhD in Physics

unbelievably gay

/thread

If I go to a good engi uni but I want a degree I can slack off in while still getting a decent job (above 40k) what should I aim for

Where does Medicine fall?

>If I go to a good engi uni
>I want a degree I can slack off in
>getting a decent job (above 40k)
you can pick two of those, because a good engineering uni won't have a degree you can slack off in, at least in the later years.

if you don't care about the engineering part and just want an easy uni life followed by 40k+, then do economics or something like that to go into finance or management. you'll probably want to kill yourself the moment you start your job though.

alternatively, it's not that hard to actually put effort into your degree at a good engineering school and then come out and do a job you enjoy and get paid well for it. most unis will let you change your discipline within engineering during the first year or so anyway, so you just go with what you enjoy the most.

I really just said slack off because I'm actually a brainlet, and I chose engineering because I am very interested in machinery and mechanic shit but I also wanted a college degree

>I'm actually a brainlet
engineering is great for brainlets, the concepts involved aren't hard to grasp compared to physics and maths. i'll admit myself, i did engineering because I wasn't intelligent enough to do maths.

>I am very interested in machinery and mechanic shit
sounds like you'd probably enjoy mechanical engineering, a degree in that from any good uni will set you up about as well as a degree can.

theyre the same thing

shitty schools can have great departments in seas of shit

umd physics for example

>computer science
>only good tier
Okay

I mean great tier

how do I actually land a position as an RA as a first year?

>he needs a job and money

Why were your parents such fuck ups?

Where do I land, BS mathematics, currently MS EE....

I talked to a couple of Aerospace engineering graduates after visiting Delft this weekend. It's basically advanced mechanical engineering, but with more electrical and fluid dynamics. It is one of the most demanding degrees (60% failure rate) and is very interdisciplinary in nature.

I might start there next year (in HS currently), but the shit-tier social life that would follow and the complete absence of females has me leaning towards cybernetics (mechanical+ electrical+compsci engy) at another uni, where there are lots more women due to the medical applications of the course.

>visiting Delft
>60% failure rate
Delft is one of the best in the world for aero, makes sense.

>It's basically advanced mechanical engineering, but with more electrical and fluid dynamics.
>very interdisciplinary in nature.
True. At my university, we do an interdisciplinary project, and the aeros usually coordinate and lead the project due to having the most overlap.

>the shit-tier social life that would follow and the complete absence of females
also true but you can get those things once you leave, and let's be fucking real, you're posting on a sudanese pottery website, it's not like you were going to have any of those things anyway. Don't waste your chance to do aero at Delft.

I don't know...I'm KV and want a wife by the time I graduate with my masters. Can't do that there. I go to an IB school and it is already very demanding for me to get perfect grades while maintaining a social life. I do not think I would be able to do that at Delft.

Besides, cybernetics is god-tier too. Automation and AI are projected to grow exponentially in the coming years, and having a degree specialising in that along with a minor in leadership would probably be my dream job.

Aerospace is cool, and I have both the grades and the ambition to do it, but I need a wife or at least a gf before I am 25 if I am going to resist blowing my brains out. Also, jobs are guaranteed at cybernetics, but usually not in aerospace.

Any reasons for your opinion though? I am still weighing the options, and would appreciate some advice

>but I need a wife or at least a gf before I am 25 if I am going to resist blowing my brains out
you're gonna want to do that much earlier if you ever get a girl.

>I'm KV and want a wife by the time I graduate with my masters.
I just wouldn't choose your degree on it. Trust me, you don't want to do shit with girls on your course. It might go wrong and you might have to awkwardly avoid them for years. Almost everyone I know who found a gf didn't find one doing their course. Best chances are at socials and clubs.

>Also, jobs are guaranteed at cybernetics, but usually not in aerospace.
Chances are most aerospace graduates won't go into aerospace jobs, but other engineering, management or finance - it's not like it's difficult to find a job as despite seeming niche, aero is pretty broad. I'm personally joining the air force as I don't want a real job yet.

> I need a wife or at least a gf before I am 25
The sooner you realise this isn't really in your control the better. At this rate it sounds like you're going to kill yourself if you don't get a wife before 25 which is pretty fucking retarded. Every high schooler thinks retardedly about this shit so it's fine though.

How can I be a machine programmer for Google and make $300k? What degree do i get?

Math degrees are 300k starting.

Why is Geophysics listed in God tier and Good tier?

>Computer Science
>Great
That's how you know it's a meme list

I like how computer science and software engineer are in different tiers, even though 75% of colleges/universities consider them to be interchangeable synonyms

hey physics bros

why is physics always so high on these tier lists? I thought physics was a meme until you hit PhD tier.

t. soon to be physics bs

not true at all lad

half the soft eng degrees are gimmicks

Studying computer science will best prepare you for the interview process. You won't start at 300k, likely closer to 200k when factoring in RSUs and your yearly bonus, but if you're extremely talented and perform extraordinarily, you could feasibly break 300k in 3-5 years at Google.

>if you're extremely talented and perform extraordinarily
>compared to google employees
yeah, that's not going to happen

Valid point. 300k isn't unreasonable as a mid-career salary at Google, though.

I think people underestimate how cushy a 180-200k starting job is, though. It's not 300k, but $200,000/yr is a lot compared to salaries in other fields.

The latter is a meme.

An english degree from harvard will be trumped by an engineering degree at a shit state school. Try doing interviews and you'll see how GPA and internships are more important, to the point where there's people who got BAs in my office. Prestigecucks are a pretty big meme around here

Now grad school is different

Wanting to validate their shitty degree choice (from a monetary stand-point)

Wait so physics actually is a meme?

Fuck high school teacher it is.

Do you work at Google? If so, what office? There are a lot of people at the larger offices coming from your standard Ivy/Stanford/MIT-tier school, many also from large state schools with well-known STEM programs.

Yeah. Dick for jobs and no one trusts you to be anything but a $12/hour lab monkey until you have a PhD and even then they don't like you don't have 20 years experience under your belt.

Ah well such is life. 60k-100k ain't bad I guess, I'll live.

bruh, even 80k is cushy as fuck

>60k-100k
>high school teacher
El-Oh-Fucking-El
they make $30k-$40k top end

>60k-100k

Maybe in whatever shithole you live in, where I live starts at 58k and works up to 115k.

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>OP's bait is /thread'd 3 posts in
>still 47 more guaranteed replies

great high iq low salary

>muh money
As long as you aren't poor who cares? anyone who doesnt live frugally deserved to be unhappy.

do people itt really think 200k starting is normal / attainable / realistic / anything? wtf?

notice how this guy calls himself a phd, not an employed researcher or a professor.

Retirement mostly. I'd like to retire at a high level of income like 80k or so, that's not possible if I'm not making a lot of money to begin with.

But coming back to realistic numbers I know I'll survive just fine, live a good life etc etc.

its not normal, but it is attainable. i got offered 110k$ to do public works engineering in Oakland CA, but fuck that because its Oakland CA.

the gubmint is always looking for educated civilian goys to go rebuild Iraq or whatever and those guys make pretty close to 200k.

110k in SF area is not even remotely close to 200k though my guy

>tfw physics phds can still go in to finance if they really want money because physics is a respected degree

Feels good to be stem desu

add 50% if you instead work for a contractor who is then hired by said gubmint

my point was the money is out there if you are willing to work in a shithole. its the real reason petroleum/mining engineers make so much.

Yeah that's PhD though, I know that much at least.

BS is definitely a meme degree though.

I agree, but 200k a still pretty ridiculous to even begin to compare yourself to for starting pay fresh out of uni

PhD is way overqualified
you want to have a BS and nothing more if you decide to work outside your original field

To go into finance I don't think that's right. Quants make dosh but those are phd guys. BS won't get me diddly shit outside of working for like a startup or some shit.

there are plenty of jobs you could land with any STEM BS
most of them boil down to computer programming

fuck man programming is so fucking gay.

I can't stand that shit but I know it's the only way to actually make money.

just so you know
most of the STEM jobs boil down to programming or something very similar
even if you're working in your originally chosen field
even including math and research work in hard sciences, these days

He's right but "programming" is a pretty big umbrella that can describe doing a bunch of different shit, presumably at least one thing you find cool

>CS major
>only a sophomore
>Currently deciding between two internship offers for this summer, one is 25$ per hour and the other is 27$

but i'm sure you're doing fine too user ;)

aero is a meme major that gets exaggerated by sweaty kids who jerk off to Elon Musk on the regular

t. aero major

>lying on the internet to feel good about meme degree

aw shucks

lol except i'm not :^)

nah thats about right. all the decent STEM internships pay 20$+. even the 2.5 GPA shitter engineers are making at least 15$.

Not the guy you replied to, but Jesus Christ, where?

This. Unless you kick ass and take names working on projects while you're in college, Computer Engineering is good tier.

People arguing otherwise for CE or CS are muh "Next Zuckerberg" types. It's on okay job if you genuinely like the field, and you can live comfortably on the pay, but chem/petrol/mech all take the same amount of time and pay more on average.

What do you guys think of Biomedical Engineering?

Might as well call yourself Pepe while you're at it

Meme degree legit field

they pay a little more, but only if you actually go to work at a real job
with my CS degree I can comfortably shitpost on Veeky Forums all day between jacking off and checking my email once in a while
if that doesn't make the top of the list I don't know what the fuck would

Just do Electrical?

aerospace. any of the big car manufacturers. motherfuckin' oil n gas. heavy civil in a remote location.

i got paid 32$ to work on big coal mining equipment in new mexico.

mechanical with a focus in biotech

any computer science internship will pay at least that much
either that or they are unpaid, in which case you get to put that you interned at google or facebook on your resume
and that line in your resume means you are set for life, so it's a fair deal

It's in the chart.

I second this, having taken 2 CS courses, I was able to get my first real world job experience at $18/hr (internship). This summer looking in the range of $25-30/hr (internship).

>great tier
>biology

>good tier
>microbiology

always pisses me off, makes no sense

>medicine
>250k in debt, 60 hour work weeks, deals with sick people all day.
>god tier


Kek

this person didn't even know what physics and chemistry was; they just put shit they thought was fuckin' voodoo on top

Well it depends. The space flight track at delft is only space-related stuff, Astrodynamics, propulsion, space systems and so on.

>implying you have to be a doctor to work in medicine

There's an entire industry before the meds get to the doctors you know.

Just go out in Leiden every now and then. Plenty of pussy here

Plent of Delft guys come here anyway

> Not doing business with a STEM field

L M A O ing at ur lives

This man gets it. I thought I was the only fucking one.

World only needs so many microbiologists.

Helipng people would be cool user.

What about doing an ee physics double bachelors and an md specialziing in neurology and then pilot exp in militart to be an astronaut? Also have programming knowledge with geant4 in c++ for fluids sims nonelastic deformation particle penetration of media all via monte carlo method. Would i be employable?

Where does electronic fit in? It's not exactly electrical, since electrical focuses mainly on power transmission. Though we see quite a bit of that as well.