I don't want to participate anymore, I'm exhausted. Rather than kill myself I'll just leave, and I'd like your help. Might you please recommend books and/or authors that address the matter of leaving society (e.g. Throreau's Walden)?
Also, what is your defense for man's world?
>Yes I've been to /out/
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>Also, what is your defense for man's world?
I don't have one. All I can say though is that the prospect of escape is an illusion. All you can really do is bury your head in the sand and be at society's mercy
Thank god you bumped, ya dingus
Listen here, I just got my happy ass out of bed were I had been reading on mobile (I know, kys right?) and saw your post and thought to myself, "now here's a lad who's been going through the exact same life experiences you have. If you don't stop to help now, even if only to feel the soothing balm of doling out autobiographical advice, then you're fucked." So this is what worked for me
>On Considering Abandoning Society For Rugged Simplicity
lazenby.tumblr.com
>Defense for Man's World
lazenby.tumblr.com
That's right. They're two tumblr links (Really, kys, I know), but please just copy and paste them (I don't know how to format on this godforsaken site, I'm usually just here for the bantz). Once you're done with those, go through that guy's posts. Pretty good writer, if a bit strong on the kierkegaard-lite/I read Spinoza a bit too much in high school. I would paraphrase, but it would only be watering it down. All I know is that it hit at the right point, and now I find myself participating willingly in "Man's world."
I wish you nothing but the best in all things, user. Peace
There are places to go, for now, where I will have complete liberation. When death comes whatever happens to the Earth is irrelevant (I'm not sure I fully believe that). Society may be a big bad monster but it is yet to terrorize everything.
I'm on mobile too, no worries. I'm sort of afraid to click the links if my mind will be put at ease with a subject I've grown to despise, but I'll give it a go.
Look into One Man's Wilderness: An Alaskan Odyssey. It's the collected journals of Richard Proenneke, a man who lived self-sufficiently for nearly 30 years in the Alaskan mountains in a cabin he built with his own two hands in the 70s.
>malickian nostalgia
I've been aware of this romanticization for a while now, which is why I approach my goal with extreme caution. The name of this thread was well meant, but I will fight it. The blog speaks as if we have evolved to belong in modern society without an escape. Yes we are domesticated, but we are not broken. And honestly fuck his third way, if I can't live exactly the way I wish to, then I wouldn't mind dying right now. I don't want a fairy tale home with rainbows, roses, and love, I just want to live. I just want to feel alive. I can't pursue happiness through a 9-5, stress about my chains, and the realization I'm chasing a laser pointer. Life in man's world is a pyrrhic victory, and I'm not spending 70 years to get that stone medal.
That's pretty much exactly what I planned to do, thanks.
Bump 2 because I can.
I'm 18, in my senior year in highschool, I just don't want to fuck up the rest of my life. I don't know if staying or leaving would cause that.
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>what is your defense for man's world?
Walden is a crock of shit bro, he was never alone really and was seen regularly in town
Who was legit then?
Kaczynski
Hatchet.
lol, i dont really know if 'regularly', but it is known he didn't shut off society completely, he also had some visitors often in his cabin, but that does not invalidate whats written on walden
Probably no one
lmao you are a faggot
Quality post
after HS i went on a year long hitch hiking trip and found God. best thing i ever did.
Who is this artist? This stuff is really cool.
I found God a while ago, but I'm pantheistic.
Wish I knew
Oh and btw, was it expensive? Where did you go?
Just read some Epicurus, read Lucretius' De Rerum Natura and learn how to coexist with society without being a slave to it.
I recommend studying hard, applying for college and using next summer to be as edgy as you can. Go hitchhiking, sleep in a tent, be poor, and see how long your """nihilism""" continues. Chances are you'll get over it, study some practical subject, get a job in an industry where you'll spend the majority of your working life, meet a girl who makes you feel warm and contented, and have kids so as to fulfill what you see as both a social and existential duty. Pathetic really. Sad even. Meanwhile I'll be living in a tiny box room apartment, working ten hours a week and spending my free time jerking it to hentai, crying, apologizing to my reticent and dissapointed family, experiencing frequent bouts of intense self-belief undermined quickly by further masturbation and childish regression, before dying bitter and full of regret in a hospital where even the burn victims pity me.
I was planning on living Richard Proenneke style instead of Into the Wild style. I'm already poor, I live in the ghetto. I'm nihilistic in the sense that I act human and give value to things, but mostly I just accept that something exists. And let me clarify this, I made this thread for a reason. I would rather kill myself than live a life remotely similar to one you described. (Prepare for cringe) "I would rather sing one wild song and burst my heart with it than spend a thousand years watching my digestion and being afraid of the wet" -London
How exactly do you plan to pay for all this?
You live in the ghetto, you aren't a trust fund babby. At 18 you likely don't have more than a few thousand dollars to your name.
The only thing you can afford to do right now is walk out into the wilderness with a tent and try to hunt/gather, which will either end with you leaving in a few weeks or dying.
Do what I did. Be a vagabond, hitchhike, hop trains, live with next to nothing. It allowed me to spend most of my free time reading and along the way I got to meet so many interesting people and now have an overall greater appreciation for life.
What? To find some free land and chop down some trees? Apart from learning how to survive (constructing a house, hunting, foraging, etc.) this will be almost inexpensive. I can bare working for a while to pay for that.
I'd prefer not to be urban
>To find some free land and chop down some trees?
lmao
This is not legal on public land, at least not in North America. You can move 150 miles north of fuckhole Alaska and probably no one will care if you chop wood and hunt and freeze to death in your cabin up there during the -40 winters with no right to do so but anywhere else your house will be found and condemned by park rangers.
America isn't the only land in the world, you know.
That guy in Maine who stole food from vacation cabins and lived in the woods nearby for 27 years. Dude just walked into the woods one day and lived like that for almost three decades.
AFAIK Europe is generally even worse for acquiring land because not only is there much less wild land left than in the US/Canada governments are generally much more socialist and less likely to just let you do whatever the fuck you want without permits.
OP types like a third world motherfucker though so maybe he's Brazilian and can just wander off into the Amazon. I'm sure it works in some places.
In what way do I type like I'm in a third world country? Genuinely curious.
Land is another thing I'll have to figure out, but I'm not just going to stop trying because it'll be difficult.
I doubt any Brazilian who posts here actually lives anywhere close to the Amazon.
Was the same as you now, so what i did is instead of fully leaving i half-way did to wich was supposed to be a more primal kind of life. I went to Africa and stayed there making my own living and meeting people there, not living as a white in Africa but as a black, same problems same life. Best thing ever, now I found a kind of will to live, gonna get to university and study for something with what i might be able to help.
Anyway I'll probably get pissed off in some time and repeat maybe this time going really off.
It's shit while being young, because your family does care and they don't want you to "waste" your life. I know it's again somehow society, but your feeling for your family are true, so this studying thing is a halfway answer for both of us.