Finally ready

Ok. So I've got a working understanding of Hegel and German Idealism in general, have read some secondary material, the Manifesto and am well aware of the political and historical context in which it was written.

I'm now ready to start reading Capital I think. I'm looking for the most respected translation/edition that is currently in print for English. I'm not looking for anything abridged or annotated if possible.

What is it and why?

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Don't ever post leftist nonsense on here again, cuck.

Pick up Mein Kampf instead

>say Josh, are you still working in McDonalds after leaving high school?

>>> Marxists.org

There are only two translations in English.
The Samuel Moore translation was done after Marx had died but Engles wrote the preface. The other one which is the penguin one is the one used by David Harvey and he seems to know a lot about it. Just choose one, both translators have a deep understanding of Marxism and you are not going to miss out on anything important with either translator.

Get the Penguin edition with the introduction by Ernest Mandel [he's a Trotskyist fart so his opinons can be easily ignored], it's a translation from the last revision (1872–1875) Marx actually oversaw himself in his lifetime [the French one].

This is good secondary work on Marxs work as a totality:
marxists.org/archive/camatte/capcom/introduction.htm

No, the version on marxists.org there is shit don't read that

Kapital is Marx's only relevant work today. You should have skipped the manifesto. Then again, it's a short read, so whatever.

I thought leftists weren't supposed to be elitists

Actual leftists (meaning they want public control of means of production) aren't, but liberals are. Especially white, middle-class and up liberals.

Read Smith'S Wealth of Nations first, and then Ricardo's Principals of Political Economy

The Ben Fowkes translation of Capital is the best one available, published by Penguin in association with New Left Books.

Oh, and this is a handy little primer. Just don't treat it as a substitute for the book.

There's also Prof. David Harvey's free series of online lectures on Capital: davidharvey.org/

>pick up the prison diary of a white supremacist hack painter/failed soldier gone politician/war criminal

>over the writings of the most important economist, journalist, and political philosopher ever

>>/pol/ is hilarious sometimes

I don't care for Hitler any more than I do Marx, but using personal attacks against the former to defend the latter is a hilariously slippery slope.

>hack painter
>hack philosopher

>failed soldier
>failed anything but sitting at home and writing bullshit

>war criminal
>ideology inspired some of the greatest human tragedies of the 20th century in not only Russia, and Eastern Europe, but China as well

They're both assholes, and they should both be read and understood. At no point did OP sound like he was going full commie, but to be fair to you, the user you're responding to was being very "hurr durr right wing."

The french one is a "simplified one" because french weren't as "intellectuals", as I remember reading. Do you think is better anyways?

>At no point did OP sound like he was going full commie
And even if they did, it's not as though authoritarian Marxists represent the whole spectrum of communist thought, or even Marxist thought.

>Don't post leftist nonsense
>Pick up Mein Kampf
cognitive dissonance is strong with this one

your bourgeois liberal centrist is showing, comrade

>le National Socialism has "socialism" in the name, so the Nazis were left-wing meme xD

>it's not as though authoritarian Marxists represent the whole spectrum of communist thought, or even Marxist thought.

Just most of it.

>"Marxism exists in nineteenth-century thought as a fish exists in water; that is, it ceases to breathe anywhere else."

There are probably more anarcho-communist, council communist, and autonomist Marxist theorists than authoritarian Marxist ones.

>

Er, yes, really. Are you even familiar with the non-vanguardist thinkers?

What, all 3 of them?

Here's a few to be getting on with:

Jan Appel
Alexander Berkman
Murray Bookchin
Amadeo Bordiga
Maurice Brinton
Carlo Cafiero
Cornelius Castoriadis
Marc Chirik
Emilio Covelli
Onorato Damen
Gilles Dauvé
Daniel De Leon
Guy Debord
Joseph Déjacque
Sébastien Faure
Emma Goldman
Herman Gorter
Daniel Guérin
E. T. Kingsley
Karl Korsch
Peter Kropotkin
Gustav Landauer
Karl Liebknecht
Rosa Luxemburg
Nestor Makhno
Errico Malatesta
Paul Mattick
Albert Meltzer
Grandizo Munis
Gavril Myasnikov
Antonio Negri
Anton Pannekoek
Fredy Perlman
Rudolf Rocker
Otto Rühle
Karl Schröder
Volin
Colin Ward

Never heard of them, which is no doubt for the best.

Yes we don't need your half ass opinions about something you know little about,

>Never heard of them
Which is somewhat different from asserting that they make up a minority in the communist intellectual current.

I know a lot about it. I don't see how showing me a list of nobodies disproves that.

>the communist intellectual current.

We call that a paradox.

>I know a lot about it.
All evidence to the contrary.

>We call that a paradox.

Kek, blown the fuck out.

>blown the fuck out.

You can't make it less obvious that you're fellating an idiot's ego?

It's like Wilde is in the room with us.

>"Foucault exists in twentieth-century thought as a fish exists in water; that is, it ceases to breathe anywhere else."

>Implying both aren't true

>Implying either is.

What's it like to be proud of ignorance? Do you also enjoy reality tv?

Yeah, sure showed

Fuck you I won't do what you tell me

Communism doesn't promote elitism as an ideology, but most of the communists(not those meme liberal college trash) have good education/educated themselves to an extent that they become elitists as time passes.

>but most of the communists, and I've met most of them . . .

Unlike you, we've experienced communism burger.

>Unlike you, we've experienced state-capitalism.
Also:

>burger
Swing and a miss. (:^)