How many 'No's can you get from publishing agent before you realize your writing is too patrician for the modern audience and your sole existence upsets the intellectualy mediocre status quo of human literary aesthetics?
tl;dr: didn't write an erotica. How many No's do I get before just giving up my novel?
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I have no faith in your work if you're a flaming peep and feels poster.
You're at minus 1.
Write some high-school teen drama shit
Post an excerpt so we can laugh at you or fuck off.
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why not just release in one of those publishing services where you send them a pdf and they plain print that shit and put it on amazon and stuff
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Nos are part of the game. At least it doesn't cost much apart from effort to make someone read your stuff, even if there's a no. Just stay at it and use the extra time to edit and improve. You don't want something imperfect to be the item that gets out there anyway, and you have to be a perfectionist in this field. Keep getting nos for now, and the yesses you eventually receive will feel entirely deserved and even easily earned.
We're all going to make it.
How many books have you got published?
Keep at it. Wittgenstein's Mistress was rejected something like 57 times before getting published.
>your writing is too patrician for the modern audience and your sole existence upsets the intellectualy mediocre status quo of human literary aesthetics?
Surely this is bait, right?
Do the rejections have any suggestions for improvement? If you want to be published, you have to be willing to play the game somewhat and produce something that a publisher will find marketable. If you really believe that you are just too grand for le plebby masses but have to get it out there, print it privately and hawk it yourself. Joyce got Ulysses published because his close friend paid for it. Blake refused to submit his work to others and wallowed in obscurity. Both are recognised as geniuses now.
It's easier than ever for unrecognised and resentful geniuses to get their work out, but it costs in time and money.
Self publish some short stories and build a minor following before you go deep into novel writing. Publishers are fucking garbage and everyone knows it. It's amazing how many downloads you can get of a free short story. Particularly erotic short stories, I had some with over 10,000 downloads a year. Then move to 99 cent digital short stories on Amazon or something. Even if you 'only' get a few hundred downloads, after costs you can easily make 60-70 cents a story if not more, that's a few hundred bucks trickling in over the course of a year for what amounts to a few days of work. People will bullshit you into thinking that only novels pay these days but if you're a prolific short story writer with a decent audience you can make ends meet. Things like patreon will also help with income once you have an audience. There are people who do nothing but write furry porn for about 4 hours a day and make ~$3,000/mo
Once you've proven yourself in that game you can go to a publisher with evidence that you've got a product that will sell, it's reducing their risk which makes you a much more appealing investment.
If you ever 'make it' you can repackage your short stories and get them published in hardcopy to make an even bigger return on time invested. Don't give me the 'BBUT IM LE ARTIST, I ONLY WORK WHEN I'M INSPIRED' schlock either, if you only work on inspiration you'll only eat on inspiration. Every writer who actually had to live on his product had multiple mediocre to bad works that were only made to make a buck.
This is wisdom.
Having an following also usually includes having an active online presence. Blog and tweet to keep people interested. It takes time and it takes away from writing, but it's part of the game.
>It's easier than ever for unrecognised and resentful geniuses to get their work out, but it costs in time and money.
I don't believe this.
Here's something from my latest piece:
>Claudette realized that every joke she had heard in the past week had been told by herself, to herself, and at her own expense.
It actually doesn't cost anything to just self-publish on Amazon and probably some of their competitors. Advertising is the only part that really costs anything.
You're right to not believe this because despite communications networks flattening the world this means that ten million retards who think they are geniuses will be trying to submit to the same publishers the one real genius is trying to get through, it's no surprise the real genius work gets lost in the process and some retards get their shit published.
It's not like horrible novels are a new thing though. Schopenhauer's momma paid her bills by writing absolute garbage, shit so bad that it wasn't even remembered despite her relation to a famous guy. I'd say that overall Victorian novels were worse than YAshit, we only remember the era so fondly because over the decades most of the utter garbage that flooded the market didn't end up getting second prints and all of the hard copies have slowly disintegrated.
Historically, this winnowing process has been one of the few mercies that time has afforded men. Unfortunately in the digital age horrible books will be with us until the end of civilization.
A lot of Victorian books that are considered classics are also shit.
what happened to Wolfgang
Man, if you wanna sell me on your genius you need to give me more than a sentence.